Rampage Out of Space

[Laurentus]

So my PoE currently looks like: Dolby/Csar/Vro, with room for HK, Ibn, and Cap if he doesn't die soon. Can throw Borg on here too.

Okay, putting it like that has made me realise there's still a shit load of solving to be done here.

[Laurentus]

I'm re-evaluating my estimation of what happened during the night.

HK was not a fan of Panda in the last day phase, so could well have shot there. But then that still makes me think the second night kill was random and coming from scum. There's no way scum shoots Nanook, either.

[Laurentus]

Wait, where is the sequence where Winston was outed again?

[Laurentus]

I'm re-evaluating my estimation of what happened during the night.

HK was not a fan of Panda in the last day phase, so could well have shot there. But then that still makes me think the second night kill was random and coming from scum. There's no way scum shoots Nanook, either.

Dolby wouldn't worry about Nanook coming after him here if he's scum, would he? Nanook doesn't have enough of a thread presence to push it. At that point, it would make far more sense to kill me. So this has to be a random kill, or it came from some weird town role (don't listen to that Wolf Dolby, don't out yourself if you exist), or it was the SK (and if it was the SK, I'm still hella confused who could have gone for Panda.

On the other hand, the fact that people now knew Panda's circumstances, and the fact that we had people like Dolby willing to sheep our town read of him, might make me underestimate how much the Wolves could have judged their odds of lynching him during the day. Which is weird, because I still wasn't going to take him to endgame when compared to some of the more solvey players. So bad move killing Panda if it was you, Wolfies.

[BorgPicard]

Maybe the werewolf got two kills cause of the weird roleblock, but the two kills make sense only as someone scum hunting. Both were people that I, and I believe others, were going to push very hard. While I am concerned about the double kill, I am grateful for their removal. I think that after we get another mafia down we might want to start our sk hunt in earnest.

[BorgPicard]

From the flavor writeup it seems like a sk double kill from a cosmic horror draining people's sanity and life.

[pzelda]

Maybe the werewolf got two kills cause of the weird roleblock, but the two kills make sense only as someone scum hunting. Both were people that I, and I believe others, were going to push very hard. While I am concerned about the double kill, I am grateful for their removal. I think that after we get another mafia down we might want to start our sk hunt in earnest.

I think town kill/3p/faction kill 2x3p/faction kill makes more sense here. There also could be some kind of malfunction causing uneven night kills similar to my scanning ability being delayed.

[pzelda]

I can't quite pin it down, why I feel Dolby's scum. I'd need to reread the thread again to voice my concerns. Activity wise, he has been towny, but I think he's also been more focused on proving himself town than solving the game.
I have a peek pending on him, which we might never see.

Unfortunately, rn there aren't many players, who could be considered lock town for their activity alone. To avoid paranoia I decided to put some players in my town for now, mostly for their d1. But I'm nowhere near sure about HK, Ibn and Borg. Especially the last one being extremely inactive makes me worry.

There are many things suggesting that HK isn't scum, fortunately. Mostly, Tim not dooming me for my shades and his d1 activity/interactions. If he's a 3p, he's currently siding with town based on the night kills. The 3p is currently trying to kill scum.

Ibn doesn't have a lot going for him and I guess part of my town lean was based on him playing after a long hiatus.

As for Csargo and Vroe. Both of them have kind of bad voting patterns and without them the wagon on Nanook would be pure and I don't believe that. I lean Csargo scum over Vroe scum at the moment. Taking a quick look at eod votecounts, Dolby was on all mislynches so far and he didn't start any of these three wagons. That's a bad look. With an exception of D2, he always stuck to his first vote. I think town Dolby would be less stiff with his vote.
Csargo, despite being fairly active, wasn't exactly active with his vote either and only changed vote from a joke vote to Gnome on d2.
Vroendal was less active and his votes were more often than not votes on already established wagons. Based on his Nanook vote I'd eliminate Csargo/Vroe as an option. Dolby defended Vroe a lot and barely talked about Csargo, so both of these pairings are possible.

So, likely possible world in my eyes are Csargo/Dolby, Vroe/Dolby. But If I throw Ibn and Borg in the mix it gets way more complicated. I hope I'll have time to reread Borg/Tim interactions in search for possible wolf theater and I hope to see more from Ibn today.

Unvote: Csargo
Vote: Dolby

[pzelda]

@BorgPicard could you try to make a list or something? It would be nice to see where you're at.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

So I checked the tallys from previous days..

Everybody who have voted Dolby have been killed or voted off.
On day 1 El-A and Nanook voted for him and next day El-A gets pushed and voted off.
On day 2 Nanook and Gnome vote for him and there is a push against Gnome on next day.
Day 3 and Nanook, Panda and Laurentus vote for him.
Night 3 and Panda and Nanook end up dead.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I think Dolby should be voted off..

Vote: Dolby

[Laurentus]

So I checked the tallys from previous days..

Everybody who have voted Dolby have been killed or voted off.
On day 1 El-A and Nanook voted for him and next day El-A gets pushed and voted off.
On day 2 Nanook and Gnome vote for him and there is a push against Gnome on next day.
Day 3 and Nanook, Panda and Laurentus vote for him.
Night 3 and Panda and Nanook end up dead.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I think Dolby should be voted off..

Vote: Dolby

Not sure I like the reasoning here. What makes you think Panda and Nanook were Wolf kills?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I think one of them was. Perhaps Panda but Nanook was killed by 3p?

And like pzelda said

I think town kill/3p/faction kill 2x3p/faction kill makes more sense here. There also could be some kind of malfunction causing uneven night kills similar to my scanning ability being delayed.

[pzelda]

So I checked the tallys from previous days..

Everybody who have voted Dolby have been killed or voted off.
On day 1 El-A and Nanook voted for him and next day El-A gets pushed and voted off.
On day 2 Nanook and Gnome vote for him and there is a push against Gnome on next day.
Day 3 and Nanook, Panda and Laurentus vote for him.
Night 3 and Panda and Nanook end up dead.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I think Dolby should be voted off..

Vote: Dolby

Tbh, I don't think this holds any water. Pushes against Gnome and El had little to do with them voting Dolby and Nanook with Panda probably weren't mafia kills

[Winston Hughes]

Ibn hasn't ended any day so far with a single vote against him.

[Winston Hughes]

Has anyone voted ibn at all?