Rampage Out of Space

[Winston Hughes]

I disagree with your supposition. Scum want to chop the SK if and only if the SK appears to be on to them. Up till that point scum want the SK to keep killing townies b/c it makes scums lives easier.

I can believe they were thinking that before today.

[Winston Hughes]

If hk is scum here, he's roleplaying as the sk and I applaud it.

[Winston Hughes]

IK is org OG.

I do remember playing with him.

Need to find the game.

I found the game I was thinking of, and it was khaan, not sk.

[Winston Hughes]

@Ibn-Khaldun

Did you play mafia here back in the noughties golden age?

[Winston Hughes]

I suppose I ought to iso my scumbuddy Vroe...

[Winston Hughes]

not sk

So much fail.

I meant IK, of course.

[Csargo]

he's more active than the last time I saw him wolfing, he's actually participating in discussions and providing reads in his own LA way

If you're talking about Mario, I don't think the first part is true. He almost immediately dropped the bit in Mario, but he also almost immediately died D1 in that game.

[hollowkatt]

I can believe they were thinking that before today.

there's 9 alive. 2 wolves, 1 SK, 6 town. I think tomorrow wolves hunt the SK. odds are still better for wolves that the SK hits town tonight than hitting wolf by like 2 to 1 and I think wolves take those odds.
If there are two kills tonight and they both hit town we'll be 4-2-1 which is functionally lylo, right? or is my math fucked up.
either way, we need to find a wolf today

[Winston Hughes]

Vroe vs Tim:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

D1 Reads:
Town leans -
El-A - Opening reads very townie to me, puts in immediate effort to lock down his thoughts on thread, asks for clarification on posts through read-through.
CutePanda - Makes a post that catches flak, claims it was a contradictory bait. Calls on others to defend him for his activity. I will vouch that I’ve seen CP make plays like this before as town and that I’m doubtful he would take this approach as scum. Has a confusing ISO.
hollowkat - High amount of analysis in general, provides unique takes on players such as Rask, LA,
c4 - Early game indicative of townie WIM, shields HK, calls a weird post by CP townie while taking it as face value which is mehhh, bemoans post-count multiple times, makes a decent push on pzelda.
Lewwyn - Has been sheeping a few reads. Has broached on the idea of Winston/Garden being suspicious.
Raskolnikov - I have absolutely no read on his posts, I’m more inclined to town-read the way he went about interacting with Csargo and Winston, felt townier.
Tim - Makes a very detailed reads-list and attempts to take charge early. Makes high-effort analysis on defending players such as LA. Would be higher but I don’t trust him at all.

Nulls -
Dolby - Dayshielded LA for reasons I don’t quite understand, has cross-examined multiple posts.
BorgPicard - Conforms to own claiming meta, changes up his claim.
pzelda - First post is analysis, I was unable to establish any read based on his posts.
Csargo - Posted too many gifs, has been cross-examining.
Laurentus - Has yet to post. Will likely not post today. He has done this as town and scum.
Nanook - Conforms to own WIL meta.

Scum leans -
Ibn-Khaldun - Makes opportunistic vote to see tie, attacks LA for being anti-town, probably not w/w with LA.
Garden Gnome - Leads with nothing, interaction with Winston feels forced. Complains of lack of information. Opportunistically pushes BorgPicard based on jokes. Made a distancing poke at Winston for voting HK.
Winston - First post is a “Muller” hardclaim, forces players to use google translate, omgus votes Rask. Makes promise to analyze. Spams thread near EoD. Has been pursuing a wolfy playstyle intentionally.

Winston why are you town?

It's interesting to me how you're classifying my push as "swinging at whoever is handy" since I don't see why you would reach that conclusion. Care to elaborate?
Sure. El and I are different people. Make of our differences what you will.

Oh, so you're saying I was picking a fight with Winston specifically since he was in the thread at the time of my post. No, I pushed him because he has what I believe to be the clearest wolfy behavior from his lackluster posts throughout the day, making reading his posts purposefully harder by putting one and another language and needlessly stringing out reads into multiple posts, his stilted interactions with another suspicious player, and his lackadaisical vote and unvote on Rask.

I have difficulty analyzing this early and I struggle to articulate my reads, but that doesn't mean I'm making things up based on nothing. El seems like a good player and I respect his effort and playstyle, I can't be El though.

[hollowkatt]

If you're talking about Mario, I don't think the first part is true. He almost immediately dropped the bit in Mario, but he also almost immediately died D1 in that game.

dude, LA lived to D5 in Mario Mafia 2
vote: csargo

[Winston Hughes]

Where are you on vro, hk?

[Csargo]

dude, LA lived to D5 in Mario Mafia 2
vote: csargo

I don't know what your point is?

[Winston Hughes]

we need to find a wolf today

This, I agree with.

[hollowkatt]

Where are you on vro, hk?

probs a wolf, would kill

[Winston Hughes]

Vroe's early town reads have been fairly massacred, haven't they?

[Csargo]

dude, LA lived to D5 in Mario Mafia 2
vote: csargo

It's almost EoD 4 now. Your take is bad. the first part isn't true and LA is perfectly capable of keeping up this type of bit as a woof.

[hollowkatt]

I don't know what your point is?

that you said LA almost died D1 when that was never actually going to happen. And that he isn't more active in this game than he was in that game. I think his play here has been alright. Better than Ibn/Vro for sure

[hollowkatt]

It's almost EoD 4 now. Your take is bad. the first part isn't true and LA is perfectly capable of keeping up this type of bit as a woof.

ok, so what's your take on LA?

[Csargo]

that you said LA almost died D1 when that was never actually going to happen. And that he isn't more active in this game than he was in that game. I think his play here has been alright. Better than Ibn/Vro for sure

He almost died d1 in Mario, wasn't talking about here.

[hollowkatt]

He almost died d1 in Mario, wasn't talking about here.

even that isn't accurate tho. Capage was the vote leader for the better part of the last 4-5 hours of that game day, and realistically was never not the chop D1. LA peaked at 4, half of what chopped Capage.

[Winston Hughes]

I probably should have had the pizza before the beer, but right now I'm feeling very good about IK/Vroe vs Dolby.

The one player I don't have any real read on is Laurentus, so I guess that's where I should look next.

[Csargo]

that you said LA almost died D1 when that was never actually going to happen. And that he isn't more active in this game than he was in that game. I think his play here has been alright. Better than Ibn/Vro for sure

He's not more active here. Unless your using some weird metric to measure it.

ok, so what's your take on LA?

My take is that LA has potential to be a woof. The only reason I can see that he doesn't is the immediate about face on Tims EoD1. And the fact that he tried to be more coherent in his takes in Mario, which he hasn't done here at all imo.

Those things don't really mean much, because Tims died immediately after and LA hasn't been under an threat of being yeeted.

[Winston Hughes]

D1 Reads:
Town leans -
El-A - Opening reads very townie to me, puts in immediate effort to lock down his thoughts on thread, asks for clarification on posts through read-through.
CutePanda - Makes a post that catches flak, claims it was a contradictory bait. Calls on others to defend him for his activity. I will vouch that I’ve seen CP make plays like this before as town and that I’m doubtful he would take this approach as scum. Has a confusing ISO.
hollowkat - High amount of analysis in general, provides unique takes on players such as Rask, LA,
c4 - Early game indicative of townie WIM, shields HK, calls a weird post by CP townie while taking it as face value which is mehhh, bemoans post-count multiple times, makes a decent push on pzelda.
Lewwyn - Has been sheeping a few reads. Has broached on the idea of Winston/Garden being suspicious.
Raskolnikov - I have absolutely no read on his posts, I’m more inclined to town-read the way he went about interacting with Csargo and Winston, felt townier.
Tim - Makes a very detailed reads-list and attempts to take charge early. Makes high-effort analysis on defending players such as LA. Would be higher but I don’t trust him at all.

Vroe's early town reads have been fairly massacred, haven't they?

hk last man standing

[Csargo]

even that isn't accurate tho. Capage was the vote leader for the better part of the last 4-5 hours of that game day, and realistically was never not the chop D1. LA peaked at 4, half of what chopped Capage.

You're right, I thought it was closer at EoD than it actually was.

[Winston Hughes]

You're right, I thought it was closer at EoD than it actually was.

Where are you on Laurentus, Csar?

[Csargo]

Where are you on Laurentus, Csar?

I think they're town, for the derp stuff D2 and they've been solidly townie since they started posting. I need to iso, but that's been my feelings throughout the game so far.

[hollowkatt]

He's not more active here. Unless your using some weird metric to measure it.



My take is that LA has potential to be a woof. The only reason I can see that he doesn't is the immediate about face on Tims EoD1. And the fact that he tried to be more coherent in his takes in Mario, which he hasn't done here at all imo.

Those things don't really mean much, because Tims died immediately after and LA hasn't been under an threat of being yeeted.

So it sounds like you town read him?
Like anyone has "potential" to be a wolf but given how Tim treated him, the takes, and not being under threat means that he's kinda just town

[hollowkatt]

hk last man standing

my take is i'm not dead b/c I'm wrong about a lot of things

[Winston Hughes]

my take is i'm not dead b/c I'm wrong about a lot of things

[Winston Hughes]

Laurentus is relaxed and confident and I believe the process.

If sk, it's clever.

If scum, it's brilliant.