Rampage Out of Space

[hollowkatt]

anyways, kill me wolves plx (or sk is fine too)

[Montmorency]

NIGHT FOUR BEGINS

Send in orders if you have them.

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[Montmorency]

Night Four

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As pzelda sleuthed around the bivouac - something the Major had warned him against of late, no longer being able to guarantee his safety - he reflected on the arc of his career. He was turning 40 today, retiring him from conscription eligibility. How sour that his card had been called in for this special operation just a month before. He'd taken down plenty of bionics on the mean streets of the megacities before with his hard-boiled tactics, but this shit was way beyond his pay grade. The whole time, among these armored warrior and their insane version of military justice, he had felt out of place, superfluous. Now that Lewwyn was dead, the mad lad, it felt like all prospect of teamwork had faded. He could only hope that tonight he would make a difference.

His reverie was interrupted by the presence of two hulking figures parked right before him. Zelda didn't need his skills or tech to see that these were primetime Bionics.

So this was it for him. Too late for help or safety.

Your reputation is distasteful to us, creep, one of them intoned.

Zelda straightened his back in resolve of his fate.

I've seen things you borgs wouldn't believe. Vagrant mech-addicts set on fire off the shoulder of the I-99. I watched gamma beams glitter in the dark near the Neo-New York Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Suddenly, pzelda seized with apprehension, looking closely at the mocking fragments the Bionics still wore.

No, it's not, it can't! -

Time to die.

The Bionics didn't even twitch as pzelda crumbled to the floor in sizzling pieces.

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Major Montmorency knew this was it. The final confrontation was at hand, amid near-total disaster for UMENSES. Final destination: the station command center - if they could even make it before being picked off.

If any recovery were possible, the decisive confrontation would take place there.

But first...

The men who had assembled to depart the antechamber awaited their commander's address.

Marines, as you know, our support team has been eliminated. pzelda got frazzled last night, under our noses, the damnfool. He was supposed to be under escort!

Despite that failure, the situation may not be unsalvagable. The Major held up the spook's tablet.

His last work was found on this device, among his effects. The unlocked Welcome Screen had a notification from his Investigation app! It said:

Scan:
Result: CSARGO UMENSES

pzelda has died! He was a

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Detective!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Detective

Your cybernoir career has been built on providing the very best record in tracking and exposing illicit Bionic presence in our cities.
The Unified Marines knew of your reputation and have invoked your Citizen's Conscription Service clause only a month before your retirement from eligibility.
Use your skills as part of the UMENSES signals/intel detachment - or what's left of it - to support the strike element in eradicating the Bionics.

You are a parity scanner (Town). You win when all threats to your mission are eliminated. Vote in the thread every day to liquidate potential threats.

Investigate: Select someone to visit at night to discover whether their alignment is pro or anti-UMENSES. Your technology is limited in its capacity to detect such advanced taggants; your first scan will have results delayed by a round, and every third scan will also be delayed (i.e. N1 results come D3 instead of D2, and expect N3 and N6 scans to be delayed).

Overmatched (passive): You must also partner with another player to achieve your full potential. Do this by getting into private contact with any player - the host must always be CCed - and having them submit matching orders on the target. Once you begin partnering on scans, you must continue to partner with the same player for as long as they are alive (no shopping around). You may always choose to go it alone on any given night, but your results will be as little as half as reliable. The same penalty applies if your partner does not properly submit matching orders.
Networked (passive): You start with a private commlink with Lewwyn (you are Neighbors). [REDACTED]
Stand Down (passive): When all bionics have been eliminated your abilities are retired. Any result you were about to receive at the time will be cancelled.
Dead Man's Hand (passive): Despite the technical limitations of your gear, there is a special fiducial that for some reason can only be registered in moments of extreme peril. If you die, the host will announce your earliest pending result publicly the following day-phase (i.e. dying D2/N2 releases your N1 investigation D3). If you die without any queued results pending, your last reported result will be announced. If your last target under these circumstances is also dead, the Dead Man's Hand will simply fail (such as in the case when you die N4 but your N3 and N4 targets have also died by SOD5). Dead Man's Hand is subject to the effects of Stand Down.


There is a hard 125-post cap Days 1-3. Vote-only posts do not count toward the cap during EOD only. Twilight is always uncapped.

DAY FIVE BEGINS



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Living Players (7)

hollowkatt (hollow/HK)
Dolby (Dolbster/Dolb)
Winston Hughes (Winston/WH/McGinty)
BorgPicard (Borg/Picard/LA/Argon)
Csargo (Csar)
Laurentus (Laur)
Vroendal (Vro)

Dead Players (10)

Raskolnikov (D1)
c4e5g3d5 (N1)
Timsup2nothin (N1)
El-ahrairah (D2)
Garden Gnome (D3)
Lewwyn (N3)
CutePanda (N3)
NANOOK (N3)
Ibn-Khaldun (D4)
pzelda (N4)

[Montmorency]

IT IS LYLO FOR TOWN

If you do not oust scum today you will lose!

[Laurentus]

hk hes coppeaked

Okay, first off, Zelda had me in his PM the same way he did Lewwyn, and I'm very glad our scan was still successful.

To simplify this world, I believe Vro is Town, don't really have much reason to distrust Zelda's earlier scan of Winston, and have Csar as a confirmed Townie, so the PoE is as follows:

Borg
Dolby
Hollowkatt

One of these is the serial killer, and the other two have to be scum. There is room here to doubt the Vro and Winston slots, but that's just not something we can really afford anymore.

Now we need to sort out which slot is which here.

I'm leaning towards Dolby and Borg as scum, and Hollowkatt as SK.

[Laurentus]

Would anyone like to claim serial killer and declare a truce with Town?

[Dolby]

was hoping that me!town would flip tbh

[Dolby]

Would anyone like to claim serial killer and declare a truce with Town?

not me

[Dolby]

HK
Laurentus
Vroe
LA

I think that HK is just always SK, though I gotta question if HK is something like started third party lost wolf who got recruited given the language of the LYLO alert

Two of the last three got it up on me bad

[hollowkatt]

Would anyone like to claim serial killer and declare a truce with Town?

nope

[Laurentus]

Should go without saying, but keep your guns holstered please. I don't remember if we have votes locked and whether there's hammer at maj, but let's proceed under the assumption that there is, yeah?

[Dolby]

Only one kill on pzelda is probs bad. Indicates SK got blocked (ok) or SK is actively not townsiding.

Just remembered that there's no conversion so SK being recruited would be super weird

[Montmorency]

HOST NOTICE

Should go without saying, but keep your guns holstered please. I don't remember if we have votes locked and whether there's hammer at maj, but let's proceed under the assumption that there is, yeah?

From OP: "Standard plurality ouster (no hammer)."

[Laurentus]

Only one kill on pzelda is probs bad. Indicates SK got blocked (ok) or SK is actively not townsiding.

Just remembered that there's no conversion so SK being recruited would be super weird

Dolby, if you're Town, you're going to have to convince me where I've got it wrong with Winston and Vro.

[hollowkatt]

Okay, first off, Zelda had me in his PM the same way he did Lewwyn, and I'm very glad our scan was still successful.

To simplify this world, I believe Vro is Town, don't really have much reason to distrust Zelda's earlier scan of Winston, and have Csar as a confirmed Townie, so the PoE is as follows:

Borg
Dolby
Hollowkatt

One of these is the serial killer, and the other two have to be scum. There is room here to doubt the Vro and Winston slots, but that's just not something we can really afford anymore.

Now we need to sort out which slot is which here.

I'm leaning towards Dolby and Borg as scum, and Hollowkatt as SK.

Is there any way that you can verify the bold above?

[Laurentus]

No, way decided to keep it secret from the thread because of the Lewwyn kill. The fact that he listed me as solid Town is the only clue he left.

[Dolby]

If no one else counterclaims it it's confirmed

since no way he was with IK

[Dolby]

Dolby, if you're Town, you're going to have to convince me where I've got it wrong with Winston and Vro.

I'm not considering Winston

Vroe possible at this gamestate but he's been towny individually ugh

[Laurentus]

Also, one thing to note here, is that it wouldn't have been Indicative of my alignment if we had revealed this info, either, because even Zelda straight up told me that he didn't know my alignment, but decided to trust me simply because I looked Townier to him than everyone else he could choose from. There's nothing that would have prevented him from trusting a Wolf. I'm just going to have to let my words and actions speak for themselves here.

[Winston Hughes]

Also, one thing to note here, is that it wouldn't have been Indicative of my alignment if we had revealed this info, either, because even Zelda straight up told me that he didn't know my alignment, but decided to trust me simply because I looked Townier to him than everyone else he could choose from. There's nothing that would have prevented him from trusting a Wolf. I'm just going to have to let my words and actions speak for themselves here.

At this point, if you're scum it's probably just good game and good night.

Unless someone can offer an incredibly plausible case to the contrary, I see no alternative to trusting you and accepting your read on Vroe.

I should mention now that I've got an early start on Tuesday, and really ought to get to bed at least an hour before eod, so let's not leave it too late in the day to reach our consensus.

[BorgPicard]

Laurentus is not mafia

[BorgPicard]

I cannot be convinced otherwise.

[BorgPicard]

Mainly because I believe Monty more than any of you.

[BorgPicard]

With Csargo mechanically proven as well that leaves me with scum reads in this order
Vro
Winston
Dolby
HK

And Sk reads
HK
Dolby
Winston

With the lack of SK kills, I am assuming rb or maybe a holster. If it was rb, I am assuming by mafia and that means mafia knows who it is. If it is holster then they don't, and are probably going to be trying to kill them, because if flavor holds out, sk wins in a 1v1v1. If it was a sk holster, thanks it has allowed for mech clears of two townies.
What that leaves is that we need to kill a mafia, and we definitely don't want to hit sk as that screws us. Even if we hit a town today, if the sk hits a mafia tonight we can still pull through. And possibly win it. With that in mind I cannot be convinced to vote for HK or Dolby, my top two SK picks. The only choice I have left is between Winston and Vro. Given Laurentus being proven to me, I will most likely be sheeping them onto Vro.

[hollowkatt]

With Csargo mechanically proven as well that leaves me with scum reads in this order
Vro
Winston
Dolby
HK

And Sk reads
HK
Dolby
Winston

With the lack of SK kills, I am assuming rb or maybe a holster. If it was rb, I am assuming by mafia and that means mafia knows who it is. If it is holster then they don't, and are probably going to be trying to kill them, because if flavor holds out, sk wins in a 1v1v1. If it was a sk holster, thanks it has allowed for mech clears of two townies.
What that leaves is that we need to kill a mafia, and we definitely don't want to hit sk as that screws us. Even if we hit a town today, if the sk hits a mafia tonight we can still pull through. And possibly win it. With that in mind I cannot be convinced to vote for HK or Dolby, my top two SK picks. The only choice I have left is between Winston and Vro. Given Laurentus being proven to me, I will most likely be sheeping them onto Vro.

What do you think of Laurentus hard clearing Vroe based on Vroe derping yesterday?
If that clear is accurate your poe is me, winston, dolby.

[Montmorency]

HOST NOTICE

Writeup images have been fixed.

EDIT: Damn it, I'm dumb and racist. Fixed again.

[hollowkatt]

ok, actual clears:
csargo via pzelda/monty

semi-clears:
vro via laurentus conversation yesterday derping on pzelda ability
laurentus claims pzelda cleared him


Leaves us with the following:
hk
dolby
winston
borg

I know I'm town, so that leaves, if I believe all the clears, dolby/winston/borg to contain the SK and both wolves.
Of the two semi-clears I think the least cleared is laurentus. Wolf?Laurentus could still clear via derp town vro b/c town vro isn't going to push on wolf?laurentus b/c of the clear yeah?

Likewise that conversation could have been theater to try to get both of them cleared, but that's a tinfoil world that I'm not sure is worth digging into.

At one point Winston was claiming to have been cop checked. I'm going to go looking for that today.
I think, in all worlds, dolby has to go today.

[hollowkatt]

don't everyone respond at once.

I'd like some input as to why the clears aren't cleared, or why the POE I have is wrong, or who else needs to be examined closely

[Vroendal]

I’m sorry, Ibn. Alright, I see. My current PoE -

Csargo being mech-cleared has saved us lots of hardship, that's fantastic. Laurentus is as close to being fully cleared as I can put him, his behavior and his derp-supported absence D/N1 (which I wouldn’t consider him faking) when there were kills both from the wolves and from the SK puts him in a very good position from my perspective. If I can trust any credibility I have as someone who's played with him and observed him many times, he's town.

As for Winston, unfortunately, this is a thing:

Rereading d1 I have come to a shocking conclusion. N1, I targeted Winston alone and therefore the result isn't 100% reliable
...

So Winston isn't technically completely cleared. (Please read the original quote and following pzelda quotes on the next page for full context) Apparently I haven't been understanding pzelda's ability correctly, and availed myself of checking out what had actually been claimed. I still can't shake my suspicions of Winston from D1, but "as little as half as reliable" as stated from pzelda's role-flip implies 50% as the minimum chance to get a correct answer, so I suppose Winston is still more likely town than not. Many have been town-reading him for reasons that as of yet remain unclear to me, but on the basis of meta alone I can admit that grounding from players experienced with him point in his favor. I seem to be the only one who's wanted to push him for any good reason and I know I'm wrong a lot. In conclusion: I don't want him as a wagon at all today, but check out the interaction data from the flip just in case for sure.

Granting that most suggestions and evidence that has been brought up regarding who the SK might be has pointed almost exclusively to HK, I feel relatively confident based on that and PoE putting him as the likeliest one to be the SK.

This means that as a result of PoE, I am led to the conclusion that the wolves are most likely to be Dolby and BP. I'm rather shocked, from my perspective Dolby has had an incredible tone and what I felt to be overall great content, and I now have greater respect for his abilities. It leaves a slightly bitter taste in my mouth, but I guess there's always someone who's gonna fool you badly. Dolby and BP makes the greatest sense from Dolby's shielding angle from the start of D1 and onward, and Borg’s unwillingness to vote Dolby now. This HK push towards Dolby also makes me think HK/Dolby are more unlikely to be w/w.

The way I see it, BP and HK are always bad though, and I want one of those two as our consensus. I've got several problems with BP's latest post, but I'm too tired to fully research and debate that right now. The obvious problems though are I'm innocent, and that it's LYLO, look at the player list and run the calcs, I don't think there's a way we win if we mislynch unless the SK takes out a wolf and the wolves take out the SK, which I don't see happening, LYLO could indicate that the SK or the wolves could pull out a double-kill again

[Vroendal]

I’m sorry, Ibn. Alright, I see. My current PoE -

Csargo being mech-cleared has saved us lots of hardship, that's fantastic. Laurentus is as close to being fully cleared as I can put him, his behavior and his derp-supported absence D/N1 (which I wouldn’t consider him faking) when there were kills both from the wolves and from the SK puts him in a very good position from my perspective. If I can trust any credibility I have as someone who's played with him and observed him many times, he's town.

As for Winston, unfortunately, this is a thing:

Rereading d1 I have come to a shocking conclusion. N1, I targeted Winston alone and therefore the result isn't 100% reliable
...

So Winston isn't technically completely cleared. (Please read the original quote and following pzelda quotes on the next page for full context) Apparently I haven't been understanding pzelda's ability correctly, and availed myself of checking out what had actually been claimed. I still can't shake my suspicions of Winston from D1, but "as little as half as reliable" as stated from pzelda's role-flip implies 50% as the minimum chance to get a correct answer, so I suppose Winston is still more likely town than not. Many have been town-reading him for reasons that as of yet remain unclear to me, but on the basis of meta alone I can admit that grounding from players experienced with him point in his favor. I seem to be the only one who's wanted to push him for any good reason and I know I'm wrong a lot. In conclusion: I don't want him as a wagon at all today, but check out the interaction data from the flip just in case for sure.

Granting that most suggestions and evidence that has been brought up regarding who the SK might be has pointed almost exclusively to HK, I feel relatively confident based on that and PoE putting him as the likeliest one to be the SK.

This means that as a result of PoE, I am led to the conclusion that the wolves are most likely to be Dolby and BP. I'm rather shocked, from my perspective Dolby has had an incredible tone and what I felt to be overall great content, and I now have greater respect for his abilities. It leaves a slightly bitter taste in my mouth, but I guess there's always someone who's gonna fool you badly. Dolby and BP makes the greatest sense from Dolby's shielding angle from the start of D1 and onward, and Borg’s unwillingness to vote Dolby now. This HK push towards Dolby also makes me think HK/Dolby are more unlikely to be w/w.

The way I see it, BP and HK are always bad though, and I want one of those two as our consensus. I've got several problems with BP's latest post, but I'm too tired to fully research and debate that right now. The obvious problems though are I'm innocent, and that it's LYLO, look at the player list and run the calcs, I don't think there's a way we win if we mislynch unless the SK takes out a wolf and the wolves take out the SK, which I don't see happening, LYLO could indicate that the SK or the wolves could pull out a double-kill again