Rampage Out of Space

[Winston Hughes]

no, I'm not claiming SK.

scum then, got it

[Winston Hughes]

You're either going to have to convince me that Laurentus is a villain, or that he's wrong about Vroe.

Which seems like what you tried to do.

Problem is that Laurentus deserves an oscar if scum here.

So maybe try for Vroe?

[Winston Hughes]

[hollowkatt]

You're either going to have to convince me that Laurentus is a villain, or that he's wrong about Vroe.

Which seems like what you tried to do.

Problem is that Laurentus deserves an oscar if scum here.

So maybe try for Vroe?

I'm not going to do either of those things.
Remember my post about clears? if that post is accurate wolves + Sk are you, dolby, and borg in some order.
If that post is wrong then one of laurentus/vro replaces one of you three.
But I don't think that's legit, I think it's within you three.

[Winston Hughes]

I'm not going to do either of those things.
Remember my post about clears? if that post is accurate wolves + Sk are you, dolby, and borg in some order.
If that post is wrong then one of laurentus/vro replaces one of you three.
But I don't think that's legit, I think it's within you three.

Yeah, but I'm not a villain.

And you're not really acting as if I might be.

You're just kinda saying it.

[hollowkatt]

scum then, got it

yeah, I've gotten this far by doing basically nothing, and now that I'm thisclosetowinning I'm throwing it all away by talking about who's clear and how instead of just throwing down the mother of all buses on my packmate and using that cred to live another day.
Like I will bus, I will bus early, often, and if it suits my purposes I will bus my entire team and win off of that credit.

lol this game is funny and I am enjoying myself

[Winston Hughes]

lol this game is funny and I am enjoying myself

This we can agree upon.

[Winston Hughes]

I will bus, I will bus early, often, and if it suits my purposes I will bus my entire team and win off of that credit.

This wasn't that kind of game, though, was it?

Tim's death shook everything up in way you couldn't predict.

It's all well and good saying what you'd do in a hypothetical.

But this was a closed set-up, with no team having perfect information.

Actual bussing (as opposed to careful distancing) loses nearly all of its value here.

[Winston Hughes]

The worst thing for hk and borg about these recent exchanges is that neither of them looks like they've actually been working this stuff through from a townie perspective.

It's like they're behind the curve, and are giving impressions of how a townie might see the gamestate here, without fully understanding it.

[Winston Hughes]

I mean, I think they understand the gamestate better than us townies, but they're struggling to see how it looks to us.

[Winston Hughes]

Can't fake what you don't understand.

[Laurentus]

Vro, by "factional" do you mean that the Wolf team decides collectively to kill someone, and that person dies without one of them having to carry the kill?

And I'm very confused about why a tracker is implausible to you.

[Winston Hughes]

This game is now 19% of my total posts at the org, which after 11+ years and ~30 games is pretty insane.

Got to try and clear that 20...

[hollowkatt]

case me then winston. If you're so sure I'm wolfing here quote my posts that indicate that, with analysis that shows you're thinking this through. Bet you can't tho

[Vroendal]

Vro, by "factional" do you mean that the Wolf team decides collectively to kill someone, and that person dies without one of them having to carry the kill?

And I'm very confused about why a tracker is implausible to you.

That's what I've heard it as.
A tracker isn't completely implausible, but if Factional means what I think it does, then the tracker would only exist to see other scum possible scum actions and the SK visit, which feels a little imbalanced when there are town PR's that would be difficult to differentiate from scum visits. BP is claiming to have tracked Tim N1, I assume to c4, but if the kill really is factional, then he's straight-up lying. There's no listed ability for Tim, so I assume the only way he would be visiting c4 so that BP's alleged tracker ability would see him is if Tim was carrying the kill.

Unless I'm wrong about what factional means here, in which case, oof, but I'm pretty sure BP is just bad here anyway.

[Vroendal]

Tim's flip states:
"The Mafia choose someone to kill at night. Kills are factional, and therefore not assigned (will not interfere with individual abilities)."

Not assigned sounds pretty specific to me, how else would you interpret it?

[Winston Hughes]

Given the complexity of the other power roles, and the fine balance of the whole situation, does Monty ever just plop a town tracker in this game?

It's so crass and uninteresting.