Rampage Out of Space

[hollowkatt]

His very existence is a threat because in a situation with the F4 or F3, he's guaranteed to be town. I don't think the baddies are gonna keep him around. I suspect you'll try a double-kill on Csargo and me, and let the wolves take out Lau, but this is all WIFOM anyway. I don't know what you or the wolves are thinking, I can only speculate.


Either BP or Dolby works for me, with a preference for BP because I'm more certain of his guilt (in that he's never town and I think you're the SK). I haven't eliminated BP/Winston yet, my top suspicion is BP/Dolby though. I would rather take what I think is the clearest course.

csargo is always going to be less of a threat to me than laurentus is. Especially with the way the game is currently going.
I mean I'm town so idgaf really what you think I'm going to do in terms of kills.

[Laurentus]

does everyone just not give a fuck that Dolby has basically vanished?
Winston at least has been here trying to solve and posting. Laurentus/Vro the same.
Borg is here, solving not so much.
Csargo, for being hard cleared, is missing in action as well.

Seems to me Dolby ought to be the number one chop for the day as if anyone is a wolf sitting back and letting town tear itself apart it's him. Borg guaranteed is not town, I just dunno which flavor.
vote: dolby
Get on board plebs

Borg is just the safest choice here, no matter which way I slice it.

[Csargo]

@Csargo, assuming for a moment that my read on Vro is correct, who is the liar between HK and Winston here, for you? HK's arguments seem much more rational, which is pretty much what I expect from him as either alignment, really, although I've never seen him Wolf. But Winston's just feel purer. I am also incredibly paranoid about HK's weird push, because that felt to me like he was pushing a motive onto my words and actions that I didn't have, and reading back on the discussion, don't see how someone could reasonably have come to the conclusions he came to, either.

HK, I need to go back and read through everything posted yesterday, I skimmed through it in a small amount of time last night.

I remember Winston's woof game pretty well, cause he burned me pretty hard in Zack's XCOM game here, it's why I've been townreading him since early in the game. I don't think he's anything like that here, this is much more carefree and flowy, while as a woof he just gave solid reads and didn't mess around a lot, didn't really go against the flow, etc.

[Csargo]

Dolby's the best choice today imo.

[Laurentus]

Dolby's the best choice today imo.

How so?

[Csargo]

Even though I have no clue what LA is doing and it looks bad.

[Laurentus]

Even though I have no clue what LA is doing and it looks bad.

Yeah, the recurring theme for the day is that neither HK, Dolby or LA look great, but we can't figure out who looks SK!bad and who looks Wolf!bad.

[Csargo]

How so?

Just from memory, felt like he fit with everyone in my poe as a partner and was the least likely to be sk.

I just gonna read through the whole thread again, throughout the day and try to figure it out.

[hollowkatt]

Borg is just the safest choice here, no matter which way I slice it.

sure, if you want to go ahead. I'll be on dolby today

[BorgPicard]

Borg is just the safest choice here, no matter which way I slice it.

Safest choice for mafia, which you are not. I know for a fact you are town and killing me today leads to town loss. I would suggest doing as Csargo says so I can tell who is mafia and can kill them.

[BorgPicard]

Laurentus don't throw away your chance at victory by voting me. Unlike Winston who has killed 0 mafia, I have killed 1 making me far more trustworthy.

[Laurentus]

Laurentus don't throw away your chance at victory by voting me. Unlike Winston who has killed 0 mafia, I have killed 1 making me far more trustworthy.

LOL, LA, there we go, you just claimed SK finally. Now I believe this claim, because?

[BorgPicard]

Look at day one and what happened to Tim. I think that is self explanatory. Also if you stay on my wagon and get yourself killed I will laugh my ass off in dead chat.

[BorgPicard]

I started with a free n0 read and after killing Tim I used the one I got from that to scan you.

[BorgPicard]

I would rather not leave Winston's death up to chance so let's make a deal Csargo and Laurentus. We flip Dolby and if they are wolf I kill HK and if they are Town I kill Winston. Mafia kills Csargo or Laurentus or foolishly wastes a kill on me. Then either you vote me out with all mafia dead or you make last mafia vote for me and then they get killed by my revenge ability.

[Laurentus]

I would rather not leave Winston's death up to chance so let's make a deal Csargo and Laurentus. We flip Dolby and if they are wolf I kill HK and if they are Town I kill Winston. Mafia kills Csargo or Laurentus or foolishly wastes a kill on me. Then either you vote me out with all mafia dead or you make last mafia vote for me and then they get killed by my revenge ability.

But what if you're paired with HK and just win after we chop Dolby?

[Laurentus]

I would rather not leave Winston's death up to chance so let's make a deal Csargo and Laurentus. We flip Dolby and if they are wolf I kill HK and if they are Town I kill Winston. Mafia kills Csargo or Laurentus or foolishly wastes a kill on me. Then either you vote me out with all mafia dead or you make last mafia vote for me and then they get killed by my revenge ability.

And how do we make mafia vote for you?

[Csargo]

Borg is just the safest choice here, no matter which way I slice it.

I think this might be correct honestly.

[Laurentus]

Ngl, I'm starting to believe LA.

[Csargo]

Ngl, I'm starting to believe LA.

To believe what? sk?

[Csargo]

The problem I see is borg's kinda screwed by the gamestate I think.

[Csargo]

and that's supported by the fact that this is the 800th thing he's claimed today.

[Laurentus]

Oh, yeah, I don't mean I believe he'll townside, I just suddenly believe he's the SK. But that means we're just fucked, I think. Either we kill scum and lose tonight (which is the only rational reason I can see for LA to actually claim, because he knows if he gets through the day he gets two kills and just wins), or we kill him and scum kills us.

There is the possibility that he has no extra kill like he had a few nights ago, but then it's a question of choosing to lose slowly vs fast, because we need to chop him to end the game and win.

Which one do we find most likely here?

[Laurentus]

Oh, should go without saying, but the whole scenario I just outlined looks at things exclusively from the SK angle. Scum angle is obvious: this is a trick to win.

[Winston Hughes]

Why are you even giving credence to borg's claims?

As I indicated after his tracker claim fell flat, he was always going to have to claim sk here.

The question isn't whether you believe him, it's whether he makes more sense as the sk rather than either of the others, based on what happened before he descended into performance art.

[Winston Hughes]

It all comes down to the d1 exchanges with Tim, I think.

Was it real or just theatre?

[Csargo]

I mean LA's whole game has been theater, so probably.

[BorgPicard]

The problem I see is borg's kinda screwed by the gamestate I think.

I am screwed by the game state. I honestly don't see a way I can win

[hollowkatt]

with 7 alive if borg has two kills to use tonight and there are no ways to prevent that from happening we've already lost.

[Csargo]

with 7 alive if borg has two kills to use tonight and there are no ways to prevent that from happening we've already lost.

I mean, there's a pretty easy way to prevent it.