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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    You've missed my point that one of them is a reputable publication talking about the current government indulging in massive corruption. The other is an unknown publication talking about something irrelevant. Doubly so with Furunculus's conclusion: "an you be trusted to fix the problems of the world when you're stood on the shoulders of those who want nothing more than to tear it all down?".

    In case you've missed it, Momentum began life as The Campaign to Elect Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader. Labour are not in government, so that makes the article less relevant. Jeremy Corbyn is not Labour leader, so that makes the article less relevant still. Jeremy Corbyn isn't even in the Labour party, so that erases any remaining relevance Furunculus sees in the article. And in case there are any more doubts, Momentum are opposed to the current Labour leadership, even supporting an anti-Labour campaign in a recent by-election.

    What do you think of Furunculus's conclusion to the article: "an you be trusted to fix the problems of the world when you're stood on the shoulders of those who want nothing more than to tear it all down?"
    What the Opposition does is almost as relevant as what the government does as... they're the Opposition. If we don't have the current shower, due to our dreadful FPTP system they're the only alternative. And this is the only reason that Boris is in power at the moment.

    It does seem that Kier is managing to expel many of the extreme groups which is a good sign. Less of a good sign is the rumblings that Kier himself should be got rid of. Apparently he's not enough of a showman? I'm not sure.

    As to Furunculus's conclusion, that is I believe the main reason anyone ever votes Conservatives any more - not any great belief of what they'll do but more the greater fear as to what the others might. Tony Blair got labour elected by basically being equally Tory and his off the books NHS debt did a both more costly as well as less efficient job of "privatisation by stealth" than the Tories ever cooked up, and turned out to be a greater war monger as well to boot.

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