Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[katze]

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ok i wasnt that hungry so i just got an apple

Alive: (13/17)
1. zack
2. nebjiamn
3. cuthillius
6. Raskolnikov
7. Newcomb
9. EnderWiggin
10. Sunbae
11. Montmorency
12. roro__b
14. katze
15. Sleep
16. Cape90
17. hollowkatt

lets see...


7 clears wins the game


1. zack
2. nebjiamn
3. cuthillius
6. Raskolnikov
10. Sunbae
14. katze
15. Sleep

think i feel pretty content with that as a core, if i had to swap one name out it'd be to put in HK or mbe monty

11. Montmorency
17. hollowkatt

7. Newcomb
9. EnderWiggin
12. roro__b
16. Cape90

which would leave me that (with hk/monty a bit above, hk is more above monty tho)

Alive: (13/17)
1. zack
2. nebjiamn
3. cuthillius
6. Raskolnikov
7. Newcomb
9. EnderWiggin
10. Sunbae
11. Montmorency
12. roro__b
14. katze
15. Sleep
16. Cape90
17. hollowkatt


clears - zack, sunbae

likely villa - rask, cuth, sleep

soulread villa - benneh, newcomb

above null - katze, cape, HK

below null - ender, dobby

monty - monty

you remind me of bronana from the syndicate, he's really cool

this is my way of saying that i'm happy our views are mostly aligned

[Dobby]

i don't really understand dobby flipping from HK to cape after tunneling HK the whole game pmuch and not saying much about cape

felt more like following the winds of the thread

How about it's because of our discussions, qnd trying to actively like, not tunnel? I like hks posting last few hours, and he's been one of few that has been like, fighting, and not just gone mia. I'm not saying he is top town and I still don't like his case on me nor his "kill me it's good for town" but yeah he's posted well enough that I don't have him as a priority anymore.

Also dont you think I would follow the winds of the thread way earlier if I wanted to do that? Like, any squirrel could just open thread and go "this is the smart push to make". I don't have anything to gain from trying to get a vanity wagon gain traction as wolf. Its very easy to just sheep shit but yeah no I haven't. If I was following the winds of the thread I would've given up on him like 30-50 hours ago or something

[katze]

@Inawordyes: gamestate analysis on Newcomb wagon?

pinging iawy for analysis that isn't just his vibereads? smh

[Dobby]

okay that makes more sense i thought you meant tonight as in like, mafia NKing you and i was like "wtf this literally cannot be a real thought????"

I wish

[katze]

I wish

wish accepted, factional nightkill has been set to dobby

[Zack]

How about it's because of our discussions, qnd trying to actively like, not tunnel? I like hks posting last few hours, and he's been one of few that has been like, fighting, and not just gone mia. I'm not saying he is top town and I still don't like his case on me nor his "kill me it's good for town" but yeah he's posted well enough that I don't have him as a priority anymore.

Also dont you think I would follow the winds of the thread way earlier if I wanted to do that? Like, any squirrel could just open thread and go "this is the smart push to make". I don't have anything to gain from trying to get a vanity wagon gain traction as wolf. Its very easy to just sheep shit but yeah no I haven't. If I was following the winds of the thread I would've given up on him like 30-50 hours ago or something

I mean hks recent posts seem very similar to me as the posts he's been making all game

[Dobby]

wish accepted, factional nightkill has been set to dobby

So you are wolf after all

[Dobby]

I mean hks recent posts seem very similar to me as the posts he's been making all game

We haven't really levelled at all nor had live discussions at all before today.

And i sti stand by that the case he made (the one you commented on a "good post") was really bad and half of the things in it I addressed in the following post as like, they were just straight up wrong ("you are lying when you say you posted yesterday" (as if it's even an argument for anything) when I had been spamming the thread the IRL gameday before, etc. Like, several of those arguments were just not true

And that seems to be the time where you shifted re me as well. So if I see posts like that where he 1) has that really weird progression on ender that I've linked a few times (also where is ender i forgot completely about his existence) 2) builds a case on me with non-arguments and stands by it despite most of it being refuted, I'm going to be very suspicious of him. But now he's made more sense and I like his approach and what looks like a genuine will to solve, so I'm going to tweak my read because of it. It's not weird at all, it's mafia.


It's like, I pushed sleep really hard, then I was like "I liked your defense I can see where you're coming from, sleep is one of my top town reads now", why isn't that weird

[Cape90]

- wdym he was "tying not to step on your toes"?

I think ur concerns are fair as the spew on you looks a lot better, but I will elab here

before that, I was getting the opposite feeling of ladd responding to you about me

ladd would do this thing with me to where they didn't want to give me a full town read but use dodgy language to portray that

2) i am saying your push on cape is wolfy, cape is a thin villa lean for me. the 2 things can cohexist

the specification on thin villa lean is a good example of this.

There was also the fact I was on the very bottom of a chonky townreads list ladd made

there was something else

I'm kinda done looking at ladd for like, ever, feel like its a waste

[katze]

lmao i just noticed that zack has a link to his blog now

big fan

So you are wolf after all

this post is wolfy but every time i try to articulate why i think it is it sounds dumb

tonally wolfy meme or something idfk

[Cape90]

I don't really understand why cape is so low in the poe for so many people frankly

Honestly, I would put myself pretty low in my own POE, this has NOT been my "A game" not recently

[Dobby]

lmao i just noticed that zack has a link to his blog now

big fan



this post is wolfy but every time i try to articulate why i think it is it sounds dumb

tonally wolfy meme or something idfk

You realise it's a joke and not a hint of seriousness in that, right? Because I can definitely see that being the case but lol

[Cape90]

Dammit aaaaaaaaa shit

nice

[Dobby]

don't you think Dobby is a wolf? surely he would just blow up whichever of me orsunbaw wasn't nk'd

Cape reminded me

Can we just go back to this and smart ppl tell me if this could be a perspective slip or whatever the correct word is

I don't think he was townreading me at this point? Aaaaa. This game

[katze]

You realise it's a joke and not a hint of seriousness in that, right? Because I can definitely see that being the case but lol

is it? i must be spoiled by joyous cats and wowee dogs cause it felt p serious to me

shrug

[Zack]

We haven't really levelled at all nor had live discussions at all before today.

And i sti stand by that the case he made (the one you commented on a "good post") was really bad and half of the things in it I addressed in the following post as like, they were just straight up wrong ("you are lying when you say you posted yesterday" (as if it's even an argument for anything) when I had been spamming the thread the IRL gameday before, etc. Like, several of those arguments were just not true

And that seems to be the time where you shifted re me as well. So if I see posts like that where he 1) has that really weird progression on ender that I've linked a few times (also where is ender i forgot completely about his existence) 2) builds a case on me with non-arguments and stands by it despite most of it being refuted, I'm going to be very suspicious of him. But now he's made more sense and I like his approach and what looks like a genuine will to solve, so I'm going to tweak my read because of it. It's not weird at all, it's mafia.


It's like, I pushed sleep really hard, then I was like "I liked your defense I can see where you're coming from, sleep is one of my top town reads now", why isn't that weird

so why is cape a wolf?

[Zack]

Cape reminded me

Can we just go back to this and smart ppl tell me if this could be a perspective slip or whatever the correct word is

I don't think he was townreading me at this point? Aaaaa. This game

he made several posts after saying it was because he no longer thought you were a wolf...

[Dobby]

is it? i must be spoiled by joyous cats and wowee dogs cause it felt p serious to me

shrug

I genuinely can't tell if you are serious but

To be clear

It'd take a bit more to make me post smth like that seriously especially in that context and uh are you memeing me

[Dobby]

he made several posts after saying it was because he no longer thought you were a wolf...

Listening I'm tired

But I thought the first time he said he thought I might be town was in response to me saying that about him

But I've prolly got my timeliness wrong

I'm nearing my deadline for the night

[katze]

I genuinely can't tell if you are serious but

To be clear

It'd take a bit more to make me post smth like that seriously especially in that context and uh are you memeing me

im 100% serious

im making the executive decision that this read is bad because reading that post back as "it's a meme" fits kinda just feel like the alternative fits better

[Cape90]

fwiw katze I thought that part of your post was towny for lacking self awareness ("how will I look with this post" isn't there, but "hey I am the coolest katze champ goat and I'll do it" is, which makes me think that's an OK post)

This post is good, yes. However I have had the same read slung at me from other people this game which is giving me the heeby jeebies

[Dobby]

I posted before I was done

If there's anything I can answer/say/do so I don't get yeetrd tonight shoot because I'll be slep soon and I'd very much love to not die, you've got a few minutes, proly up to an hour if I can fight my meds

[Cape90]

vote: Newcomb

also, look

not me!

It seems like you have the answers to some of your own concerns on if it is not me who is it

[Dobby]

im 100% serious

im making the executive decision that this read is bad because reading that post back as "it's a meme" fits kinda just feel like the alternative fits better

Majority of my posts tonight have been like, memey tonally because I've been in a good mood and I carry my feelz on my sleeve or whatever thebword is

I talked about my yerting my smol butt

And lots of peepeepoopoo and stuff so

This was one of those

[Cape90]

how bad would it be if I call both katze/newcomb town?

Not sure I like this inconsistency, like this is said then 3 hours later, boom bye newcomb

[Zack]

thing is he did the same thing with cape and im kind of coming around to cape being v, he cant have been chainsaw defending everyone because theres not enough wolves for that

i havent really had a problem with his posts today but i havent been assured of their towniness

it's not the same tho

he explained clear, legitimate reasons for why he town read cape and was genuinely trying to kill you for it (probably because he figured there was a good chance of chaining two mislunches this way, regardless of which of you died first)

his reasons for defending Monty were really thin and he was shading me for my vote and subtly trying to get me to back off, not a serious attempt to kill me

[Cape90]

If you want my read on you to evolve and change, just play the game, show me you're invested in it, show me your thought process. If you want to find common ground with me specifically, talk to me about literally anything other than your alignment or mine.

I really don't see how katze isn't invested in the game

That's like saying HK isn't invested in the game

[hollowkatt]

pinging iawy for analysis that isn't just his vibereads? smh

I'm bad at photochop but pretend I took the planet fitness logo and re-wrote it so that it says "iawy slander-free zone" instead of judgement free zone

[Zack]

I posted before I was done

If there's anything I can answer/say/do so I don't get yeetrd tonight shoot because I'll be slep soon and I'd very much love to not die, you've got a few minutes, proly up to an hour if I can fight my meds

can you please answer me on why you think cape is a wolf? you've ignored me twice

[Cape90]

I mean, you voted me over a wolf so this is comedy. I understand when you say I can be wrong. It's true and you can be a villager. But asking who is the partner you tried to save is theater seriously. You said ladd but you did me actually.

I don't get good vibes from this shade Rask was laying down on Dobby when Dobby was saying

Who's the partner I tried to save exactly? I preferred yeeting ladd over newcomb, I think that was pretty obvious