Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Cape90]

on the topic of my approach, earlier I was analyzing the end of day, day 1 posts a whole lot as I find that a lot of good information is stored there and is a reason why I feel pretty strongly about Mont being a wolf

[Dobby]

off till EoD, little bit tilted

feel good about this, put HK in the top half if you decide to chop me, whatever

tilted because of the game? y tho :(

i dont think youre a realistic chop tbh tbh hugs

[Raskolnikov]

oh btw i checdked, i was there at 01:57 (day ended at 02:00 my time) so yeah that was "a lot of time" for me to make a vote, analyse what the wagons were at, throw out a new vote, see that it wouldnt work out, not follow what the top wagon was, and then realise that i need to pick one of ladd or newcomb


so to whoever had those arguments, just NO. (provided you trust that i actually did come back to thread just before eod because i didnt want to just miss it)


i am aslop suppoerd to be asleep now but here i am digging into isos but it doesnt really work to iso poeple here, you cant even ctrl f words ebcause it only shows a sentence :(

Get Better, like Bob

[EnderWiggin]

Catching up still this morning but I just wanna say that Dobby's whole "Don't vote me out, vest me" feels a little off. Like that's exactly the approach a wolf who doesn't believe they can escape POE would do to take power out of town's hands.

[katze]

tilted because of the game? y tho :(

i dont think youre a realistic chop tbh tbh hugs

yeah but i don't really want to dirty the thread with the existence of emotions so im opting to just leave it for now

and because it's probably unjustified emotion because im stupid

[Raskolnikov]

yeah but i don't really want to dirty the thread with the existence of emotions so im opting to just leave it for now

and because it's probably unjustified emotion because im stupid

<3

Let the mortals tinfoil katze. Don't be mad ;)

[EnderWiggin]

why do I have almost as many posts as ender right now, this doesnt seem right, I feel like they really declined in activity from yesterday to today

Something to do with losing 24 hours to a migraine and also having D&D on the weekends. =P

I do have a life outside mafia yes.

[hollowkatt]

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Players Votes

Sleep 2 (ladd, Newcomb)
Newcomb 2 (Enderwiggin, Sleep)
Csargo 2 (Cape90, hollowkatt)
hollowkatt 2 (Dobby, Csargo)
Raskolnikov 2 (Monstrdude, Montmorency)
ladd 1 (Winston Hughes)
Montmorency 1 (Sunbae)
Winston Hughes 1 (Cuthillius)
Enderwiggin 1 (zack)
Cuthillius 1 (Raskolnikov)

Then Cuth nude votes Ladd
which is interesting b/c Cuth was on Winston, then joins Winston on Ladd. Have to find out if the Cuth Winston vote was legit or just hanging out.

Was not just hanging out... kinda low key hate this sequence tbh

it's kinda sad that both katze and benneh are voting me

that gets me down a bit

in terms of how i'm playing this game

i would be tempted to vote ladd but i think winston voting ladd just from the game perspective more broadly is vaguely wack and it makes me feel less great about it

rask is fine

otherwise csargo monty really just feel like uninteresting

i think if i had another hour i might feel good about going hk but right now i have a hard time i need to spend more time and there isn't more time

vote: winston

Winston keeps stumping for Ladd votes

Rask flips off of Cuth onto Sunbae

neb flips off of nobody on to Rask

Katze flips off of nobody onto Newcomb

sleep flips off of newcomb into Ladd

dobby flips off of HK onto Rask

sleep flips off of ladd back to newcomb

monte flips from raskol to ladd

Raskol flips from sunbae to Ladd

This ends the day.

Then Monte posts "oh crap what sthe tally"

Neb posts again

katze posts -- this is the first post "POST" deadline

dobby says I don't want either of ladd newc but if I have to choose it's ladd

rask says "sorry I didn't want to"

monte tries to unvote

visor yells at everyone to stop posting.


UGH I WANNA WOLF READ CUTH SO BAD FOR THIS

fuck it
vote: cuthillius

I went through the Winston ISO looking for ladd suspicions. The first is just a naked vote. Then winston says this:

ladd
newcomb
montmorency

all of these are good targets

Then he votes Ladd again and cuth makes the above set of posts, then finally joins winston on the ladd wagon for what appears to be reasons I can't fathom.

I looked through Cuths ISO as well and see mostly Ladd V reads there, very little in terms of "could ladd be wolf" until the vote happens

Like this is the closest ladd post cuth makes before the post I quoted at the top of this post

benneh ender katze sunbae (ladd)

very opposed to any of these people today aorn

yeah, cuth absolutely can be a wolf here and the ladd vote was advantageous positioning for him here even though it would mean losing wolf PR.

[hollowkatt]

Nah. HK is starting from Sunbae's scenario: we ML today > he vests Dobby. (who would at time bomb HK in return)
So he was saying that if that's the plan, better chop him so Dobby has to make another shot.

I don't think it's a perspective slip. I don't think it has relevance now (since the reads don't hold anymore).

^^
Rask gets it

[Sleep]

oh btw i checdked, i was there at 01:57 (day ended at 02:00 my time) so yeah that was "a lot of time" for me to make a vote, analyse what the wagons were at, throw out a new vote, see that it wouldnt work out, not follow what the top wagon was, and then realise that i need to pick one of ladd or newcomb


so to whoever had those arguments, just NO. (provided you trust that i actually did come back to thread just before eod because i didnt want to just miss it)


i am aslop suppoerd to be asleep now but here i am digging into isos but it doesnt really work to iso poeple here, you cant even ctrl f words ebcause it only shows a sentence :(

fyi i have been using the advanced thread search at the top of the page, its imperfect because it cuts off posts but it lets you search for specific words from a specific user which is very helpful

[hollowkatt]

also also leaving now to make dinner will try to be back asap but probs not till like 7:30ish. hopefully earlier

[hollowkatt]

fyi i have been using the advanced thread search at the top of the page, its imperfect because it cuts off posts but it lets you search for specific words from a specific user which is very helpful

yeah, it's useful enough b/c it does isolate their posts ITT and then if you want to read more opening in a new tab. That said it's a nightmare on the phone so meh

[EnderWiggin]

Me: Dobby is doing the sus then where they're effectively trying to beg off being voted out to be vested and I don't like it.

Monty: Does exactly the same thing

[Dobby]

i turned on my pc for this btw

imma do my best to turn smth smth every rock and make the best decision possible if i get vested

if i get yeeted, my reads probably suck so just flip my list and you'll have it right but

gth what i have now based on nothing is like

sunbae







zack (yes ur lkower than sunbae get rekt)

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Sleep (just towny and i liked our interactions a lot)
benneh (prolly have him a free pass and i have tinfoil but itll take a couple of days before he'll be on the agenda tbh)
cuth (cuz of like, just tonal stuff and i still think its valid, also monstr stuff)
Raskolnikov (i think someone said something nice about him but idr im just gonna trust hes not peo for now)


hollowkatt (i cant deny the shit i had on him eaqrly still skeeves me out (i hope that word means what i want it to mean) but today's interactions and wim has been super good and i like, hes also kinda charming.)
newcomb (i would place him lower but i skimmed his recent posts and his readslist now placing me fairly high celearly means that hes smart and stuff (serious version is that i am going to look into him a lot if i survive the night and especially if i get vest))
katze (weh, i feel like the stuff about katzes wolfgame vs towngame just wasnt a correct reprensentation because it made it sound like she has like a town/Ywolfmeta but thats not the case imo. The newcomb push was prety legit though and i just got it at the time i read it, past that i havent had anything that stands out re katze and its kinda been like, hanging around middle of the packy and im not sure that makes me comfortable (it doesnt)

cape (i kinda wrote it but, a few posts that felt out of place, a lot of the people are just townier, hasnt had much of an impression but i wish the work hes doing now at this eod woiuldve been earlier tbh. Rn the catchup stuff doesnt help much to form an opinion. zack seems to like this slot though which makes it a bit less likely for me to end with a vote here)

monty (weh i refuse to write something here because im lazy im just gonna keep calling this a blind spot, might be unfair that im considering voting a blind spot but it would mostly be because im sheeping conftown and whatever i have on monty was just agh this doesnt look great but itll maybe change if/when he posts more and i havent really seen any breakthrough thats skewed me)
ender (i think ender has sailed up to be my preferred yoink by far this eod, was also one of two isos i hurried through but i also had quite a few notes on him that i just waved off d1 but i think i shouldnt have so yeah)


Vote: Ender

[Sleep]

man i start doubting hk here and then he makes a post on cuth that was like, my exact thoughts a few hours ago

[Dobby]

Catching up still this morning but I just wanna say that Dobby's whole "Don't vote me out, vest me" feels a little off. Like that's exactly the approach a wolf who doesn't believe they can escape POE would do to take power out of town's hands.

i mean i cant escape poe lol

[EnderWiggin]

Me: Calls out Dobby posting for being sus

Dobby: Well now Ender's my biggest target so that happened.

[Dobby]

^^
Rask gets it

ah i see
@hollowkatt do u think the cuth/monstr stuff was faked/teammate anger that led to monstr tilting out?

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Dobby for now.

[Dobby]

yeah, it's useful enough b/c it does isolate their posts ITT and then if you want to read more opening in a new tab. That said it's a nightmare on the phone so meh

ive played 99% on phone, usually in the car on my way to somehwere or at the breakfast/lunch/dinnertable or between patients at work.. mofia, gotta love it

Me: Calls out Dobby posting for being sus

Dobby: Well now Ender's my biggest target so that happened.

i did it before your post though, here it is sir


also uh, you're just one more person that votes me/cases me/susses me immediately after i sus them, i think youre nr 3 or 4 tbh

[Dobby]

@Sunbae @zack imma just be mean and say ender or monty, you decide and take the blame if its wrong (except ill still be the one to die)

i really really need to sleep, imma give it 3 mins ro smth

[hollowkatt]

ah i see
@hollowkatt do u think the cuth/monstr stuff was faked/teammate anger that led to monstr tilting out?

tbh I don't even want to think about that and what it might mean.

[Sleep]

both town and scum have reason to request the vest here, i dont think its ai

[Dobby]

tbh I don't even want to think about that and what it might mean.

i mean i did like cuth before (more like love tbh <3) but that interaction really... sure i didnt think monstr was wolf but if thats some w/w action im just worse at mafia than i though (and that'd be REALLY bad)

[EnderWiggin]

both town and scum have reason to request the vest here, i dont think its ai

You're right. But the whole "Please don't vote me out, vest me instead" is particularly what rankles me.

[Montmorency]

aorry im dumb and tired (im gonna keep saying im tired til i fall slep) but why does one of those HHAVE to be maf? are they on a specific wagon now oer

Hey Monte! How do you get to min one wolf in that set of three players? If it's in your ISO somewhere just say that and I'll go find it.

There are very few worlds otherwise.

For my latest vote, I believe NC just trapped himself in the path of least resistance, which is what scum would be doing right now with towncore in control of the thread.

I don't have a big D2 ISO.

i think wolves are probably in {monty, ender, katze, dobby} in no particular order

if there's 1 (or 2 lol) outside of that, glgl not my problem

Damn, definitely don't vest Zack.

Catching up still this morning but I just wanna say that Dobby's whole "Don't vote me out, vest me" feels a little off. Like that's exactly the approach a wolf who doesn't believe they can escape POE would do to take power out of town's hands.

Mafia want to kill the vested.

Me: Dobby is doing the sus then where they're effectively trying to beg off being voted out to be vested and I don't like it.

Monty: Does exactly the same thing

I've been doing this since Dolby flipped, long before Dobby. Dibs.

[Montmorency]

Some ITT



I'm disappointed; Zack should have been able to solve the game for us.

HK, it's kind of shocking that players on the Mafia-killing wagon could get so much tinfoil D2. T-Cuth has to be dead by D6 (LYLO) - do the math.

[Visor]

Players Votes

Montmorency 4 (Cape90, Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov)
Cape90 2 (nebjiamn, Sleep)
katze 1 (Cuthillius)
Dobby 1 (EnderWiggin)
EnderWiggin 1 (Dobby)
Newcomb 1 (Montmorency)
Cuthillius 1 (hollowkatt)

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[hollowkatt]

i mean i did like cuth before (more like love tbh <3) but that interaction really... sure i didnt think monstr was wolf but if thats some w/w action im just worse at mafia than i though (and that'd be REALLY bad)

I can't not comment on it though.

Ok, so Monstr didn't have horrible positioning at that time of the game, he was mildly suspect from a few people but not like "omg guys it's always monstr get him" and the way he flipped his tone makes me think that he felt very unhappy that he was being suspected and that he felt his pack was selling him out.

[hollowkatt]

Some ITT



I'm disappointed; Zack should have been able to solve the game for us.

HK, it's kind of shocking that players on the Mafia-killing wagon could get so much tinfoil D2. T-Cuth has to be dead by D6 (LYLO) - do the math.

yeah I get that.