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EnderWiggin 00:58 04-26-2022
Originally Posted by Cape90:
Vote: Newcomb

fine

if I die, I think Ender should be at least double checked, like where they at?
Where I'm at is in thread.

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Cape90 00:58 04-26-2022
this wagon formation always gets a wolf

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Sunbae 00:58 04-26-2022
I'm 100% vesting dobby

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Visor 00:59 04-26-2022
Players Votes

Montmorency 3 (Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov)
Newcomb 4 (Montmorency, hollowkatt, katze, Cape90)
Cape90 3 (nebjiamn, Sleep, EnderWiggin)
katze 1 (Cuthillius)
EnderWiggin 2 (Dobby, Sunbae)


tally correct, ordering isnt

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EnderWiggin 00:59 04-26-2022
Really Sunbae? : <

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Sunbae 00:59 04-26-2022
If you kill newcomb and he flips v, punt ender into the sun for their approach to newcomb today

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Cape90 01:00 04-26-2022
i kinda dont want that vest

which means its probably good lol

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hollowkatt 01:00 04-26-2022
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peepee poopoo


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Sleep 01:00 04-26-2022
i have cold feet

gl

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Sunbae 01:00 04-26-2022
if you kill newcomb and he flips w then priase ender ender goat

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katze 01:00 04-26-2022
Originally Posted by Sunbae:
if you kill newcomb and he flips w then priase ender ender goat
praise katze too ldo

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Montmorency 01:01 04-26-2022
I m tempted to unvote

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katze 01:01 04-26-2022
ily sunbae

i dont want rand or id vote ender

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Newcomb 01:01 04-26-2022
Originally Posted by Visor:
Players Votes

Montmorency 3 (Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov)
Newcomb 4 (Montmorency, hollowkatt, katze, Cape90)
Cape90 3 (nebjiamn, Sleep, EnderWiggin)
katze 1 (Cuthillius)
EnderWiggin 2 (Dobby, Sunbae)


tally correct, ordering isnt
if I die here my legacy is to kill ender then everyone on my wagon

Cheers, if this is it I had fun despite some really wack reasoning w/r/t me

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Visor 01:01 04-26-2022
:01 hit

STOP POSTING DAY IS OVER.

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Visor 01:03 04-26-2022
Players Votes

Newcomb 4 (Montmorency, katze, Cape90, hollowkatt)
Montmorency 3 (Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov)
Cape90 3 (nebjiamn, Sleep, EnderWiggin)
EnderWiggin 2 (Dobby, Sunbae)
katze 1 (Cuthillius)


I believe this is the correct tally.

10 minutes for corrections.

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Visor 01:11 04-26-2022
Newcomb has been killed. They were Vanilla Town.

24 hours for night, night orders due before 7pm on the 26th American Time.

Alive: (12/17)
1. zack
2. nebjiamn
3. cuthillius
6. Raskolnikov
9. EnderWiggin
10. Sunbae
11. Montmorency
12. roro__b
14. katze
15. Sleep
16. Cape90
17. hollowkatt

Dead: (5/17)
4. Ladd, Mafia N3 Sorcerer, died D1.
5. Winston Hughes, Vanilla Town, killed N1.
8. Csargo, Vanilla Town, detonated D2.
13. monstrbro Dolby, replaced after EOD1, Mafia Goon, exploded D2.
7. Newcomb, Vanilla Town, died D2.

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Visor 01:18 04-26-2022
As a nice quality of life update, I've put links to the updates in the OP for reference.

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Visor 00:46 04-27-2022
Zack has been killed. They were the Town Backup.

48 hours for day, day ends 8pm 28th of April, American eastern time.

Alive: (11/17)
2. nebjiamn
3. cuthillius
6. Raskolnikov
9. EnderWiggin
10. Sunbae
11. Montmorency
12. roro__b
14. katze
15. Sleep
16. Cape90
17. hollowkatt

Dead: (6/17)
4. Ladd, Mafia N3 Sorcerer, died D1.
5. Winston Hughes, Vanilla Town, killed N1.
8. Csargo, Vanilla Town, detonated D2.
13. monstrbro Dolby, replaced after EOD1, Mafia Goon, exploded D2.
7. Newcomb, Vanilla Town, died D2.
1. zack, Town Backup, killed N2.

IT IS DAY YOU MAY POST

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Dobby 00:55 04-27-2022
1) what the fuck

2) wheres my vest :(

3) i didnt read because i expected vest and that id get to just sheep someone into the afterlife and now im


not prepared at all

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Dobby 00:56 04-27-2022
can i also say lol you killed newcomb or is that rude

there were so many good options and now we'll never know

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Sunbae 01:00 04-27-2022
I was never vesting you dobby. I was trying to goad the wolves into killing you to prevent a kill. Sorry buddy.

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Sunbae 01:00 04-27-2022
vote: mont

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Dobby 01:00 04-27-2022
okay that was a bit overdramatic but weh


i really wanted that vest :( i didnt read literally anything and now i have to put in work and like, try to be useful but imma se if i have energy, i think whetehr i put 300% of my energy into this and read everything and analyze, or if i put like 40% into it, the outcome will not be very different so my goal is to not threadcamp and like, relax a bit. it'd be nice to have a mafia game like that at some point in life.,

@Sunbae im disaPPOINT

i dont get why zack is the nk though but thats prolly wifomy to speculate in, and they're both basically ic's anyway right

i dont think it's got to do with reads. maybe like, postcount? :P

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hollowkatt 01:01 04-27-2022
Originally Posted by Dobby:
can i also say lol you killed newcomb or is that rude

there were so many good options and now we'll never know
nah, not rude.

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Dobby 01:01 04-27-2022
Originally Posted by Sunbae:
I was never vesting you dobby. I was trying to goad the wolves into killing you to prevent a kill. Sorry buddy.
there it is, i gave you my heart again and you ate it

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Sunbae 01:02 04-27-2022
Originally Posted by Dobby:
there it is, i gave you my heart again and you ate it
You're stuck with me in a werewolf game for another day

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hollowkatt 01:02 04-27-2022
Originally Posted by Dobby:
okay that was a bit overdramatic but weh


i really wanted that vest :( i didnt read literally anything and now i have to put in work and like, try to be useful but imma se if i have energy, i think whetehr i put 300% of my energy into this and read everything and analyze, or if i put like 40% into it, the outcome will not be very different so my goal is to not threadcamp and like, relax a bit. it'd be nice to have a mafia game like that at some point in life.,

@Sunbae im disaPPOINT

i dont get why zack is the nk though but thats prolly wifomy to speculate in, and they're both basically ic's anyway right

i dont think it's got to do with reads. maybe like, postcount? :P
I think killing the claimed backup instead of the claimed PR indicates it's reads/force of will related more than anything else

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Montmorency 01:03 04-27-2022
I blame Cape for creating momentum, it should have come to down to a Tdome between us. :P

Hopefully Zack wasn't vested, and Mafia killed him because they were brought to believe he would be vested.

Because there are only two mafia the d2 votecounts are not worth as much as usual until another is flipped; many bussing or distancing combinations become plausible under these conditions.

The game can be divided into 5 analytical pairs:

Cuth/Rask: ladd wagon; if both are scum it will be obvious by LYLO, and if one is scum it should still be solvable

HK/Sleep: Solid play; broadly-comfortable positioning

Dobby/Monty: Exist

Katze/Ender: Solid play but no longer shielded by the unresolved Newcomb slot

Nebbie/Cape: D2 pair

The only players I toneread harshly are Nebbie and Rask, so I have no choice but to stick to my POE. If you want to oust Ender or something I can't stop you.

Originally Posted by nebjiamn:
Originally Posted by :
I reiterate that there is always at least 1 scum in NC/nebbie/cape. That is a guarantee.
don't thik i'd guarantee it but i'd feel good rolling the dice knowing my alignment


Isn't it smug soft-TMI? He knows he's untouchable until LYLO.



There is however a strong instinct for a mafia pair to split up in voting in that EOD2 situation, so Cape-katze, Cape-HK, katze-HK, nebbie-Ender, nebbie-Sleep, and Sleep-Ender ought to be ruled out.

Crudely speaking, brute force inside:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
katze-Cuth
katze-Rask
katze-nebbie
katze-Sleep
katze-Dobby
katze-Ender
HK-Cuth
HK-Rask
HK-nebbie
HK-Sleep
HK-Ender
HK-Dobby
Cape-Cuth
Cape-Rask
Cape-nebbie
Cape-Sleep
Cape-Ender
Cape-Dobby
Nebbie-Cuth
Nebbie-Rask
Nebbie-Dobby
Sleep-Cuth
Sleep-Rask
Sleep-Dobby
Ender-Cuth
Ender-Rask
Ender-Dobby
Cuth-Rask
Cuth-Dobby
Rask-Dobby



But for today, exclude Cuth/Rask/Sleep/HK/Dobby, and Cape-HK or Nebbie-Dobby for D1 end votes. Leaving:

katze-nebbie
katze-Ender
Cape-nebbie
Cape-Ender

Nebbie>Ender

I think I've given all I can for added value.



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Sunbae 01:03 04-27-2022
Let's not speculate on why very good player claimed pr zack was killed first. It's entirely reasonable. We can start speculating if it happens again.

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