Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Sunbae]

hmm, guess i never got around to finishing that thought, i had that post sitting in notepad for a few hours and didnt edit it, my fault for hitting publish on my first draft. i think what i was going for is "it's messing around, there's nothing substantial about it that you could agree with"

No worries, it happens.

[Zack]

I might not have pimp emojis but I can call your posts wolfy with spongebob gifs if you'd like

[Newcomb]

And before someone asks, my "no chop" vote is totally legit. This is a player list I am going to struggle to read and seeing who dies over night if we don't chop anyone might help in solving. Otherwise I'm likely going to just sheep someone I town read that I perceive is smarter than I am, or be on some weird vanity wagon at the end of the day.
So I figured I'd throw out not chopping as an option, see what people think of that, and go from there.

and yeah I'm being serious

You... want to give up town KP in a game that's gonna have like 6 deaths in the first four phases?

Like I'm struggling to parse this, you want to have the ability to read into the kill the wolves make at night, but you don't think you'll be able to read into a kill that we collectively decide to make instead of just the wolves? And you want to preemptively make D1 have no stakes by removing the possibility of a wolf dying?

That's like.... some wild degree of TWTBAW / TWTBTWTBAW / TWTBWTRIWMVMWIRWJ:KFSDKDF:JKDF where my brain kind of blue screens.

[katze]

zack is wolfy

[Sunbae]

[Zack]

zack is wolfy

[Newcomb]

yeah no problem.

My OG vote on Katze was 100% a shitpost vote.
People started piling onto katze tho and that felt weird to me. Like if they're a wolf then it's great, but if they're town a runaway wagon on them to start the game seems like a good opportunity for a wolf or two to get on and try to hang there for a chop today.
That's the basis for the v read there, basically that too many people were like "hmm yes katze is a good vote at this stage of the game".
I subscribe to the theory that early game wagons have lasting impact on the rest of the game through a kind of communal thread memory and that an early game wagon like that on a villager is one way to put a potential strong village player into the POE to make them either post out of it or allow for "bad votes" later in the game by calling back to it.

This, I like. I believe HK believes this I guess, and that that's where his thoughts were at the time.

[Sunbae]

Yeah, while I don't agree with the sleep vote idea (I actually think people vote sleep too often already) I do think HK has been towny in their oomph and believe-what-they-are-saying stuff

[nebjiamn]

i think lots of people are villagery so far

even sunbae

[Zack]

i think lots of people are villagery so far

even sunbae

talk to me about sunbae because I don't agree

[katze]

i still think almost every post newcomb posts is wolfy

[Cuthillius]

What did you mean with that second bit?

i think the benneh v read from initial posting is good enough to be valid but also one that's not super ai to actually make

but it was low hanging fruit and you picked it anyway and i think that's faintly villagery in the broader context of the thread but not anything more substantial than that

nor do i think it's a super villagery thing for you specifically as a player given your awareness of the thread, where for some people I'd feel better ascribing meaning to the action from a distance

[Cape90]

vote: cape90

theres

a lot of things wrong with this post

maybe I had too much fun with that last part

[Newcomb]

This is it. This is the villa me/newcomb game. I can feel it.

Man I hope so

wishes, fishes, etc

[Cuthillius]

my wife just walked in, tried to talk to me, paused for a moment, and then said "you're playing that game again, aren't you?"

this genuinely made me laugh

[nebjiamn]

talk to me about sunbae because I don't agree

you might hate me but its just vibes so far. thread feels relatively comfortable and the way sunbae is interacting, particularly witha few people calling him wolfy, just feels like a villabro waiting for other villabros to find and sort him rather than force the issue. how he is engaging with reads feels constructive and helpful rather than dismissive. idk. vibes.

[Sleep]

Read Sleep's wall. I think my biggest noteworthy comment is a disagreement on what the post involving Mont was. Sleep is referring to it as potential bait as a wolf throwing shade at a villager while also distancing from the read. I've read it more as a wolf seeing a wolf make a post, thinking it was very wolfy because they have the answer, and then being confused when others didn't pick up on it. Kind of like the inverse of my pet read of "wolf who sees a wall by a villager, assumes it has to be villagery, and snap calls it a towny post".

As for the entire point of it: it verbalizes some of the issues I've been having with Cape so far. I see a few people already jumped on so I'll probably try to find my own thing to do just for wagon building/pressuring but in spirit I'm on board with this push right now.

ehh, how often do you see a wolf who notices their teammate made a wolfy post, notices no one calling it out, and then makes it a point to draw attention to the post but also not push on it? it's really written in a way where he's positioned to get credit off a motnmorency w flip. not saying its impossible, but i dont really see it

but im also just not going to get deep into worldbuiding on day 1, too many conditionals and the whole thing falls apart if ur wrong on one person

[nebjiamn]

you might hate me but its just vibes so far. thread feels relatively comfortable and the way sunbae is interacting, particularly witha few people calling him wolfy, just feels like a villabro waiting for other villabros to find and sort him rather than force the issue. how he is engaging with reads feels constructive and helpful rather than dismissive. idk. vibes.

forgot to add on to this:

what parts of sunbae's posting do you think are wolfy? or is it just lack of villageriness for you so far

[Cuthillius]

benneh feels v, katze is hard to tell mostly because of playerlist dynamics but lean v on balance, by extension i like sunbae and am ok with ladd and newc

[Zack]

forgot to add on to this:

what parts of sunbae's posting do you think are wolfy? or is it just lack of villageriness for you so far

vibes

[nebjiamn]

vibes

hehe

[katze]

benneh feels v, katze is hard to tell mostly because of playerlist dynamics but lean v on balance, by extension i like sunbae and am ok with ladd and newc

what does the bolded mean

agree on benneh no strong opinion on sunb/ladd

[nebjiamn]

what does the bolded mean

agree on benneh no strong opinion on sunb/ladd

he just called you polarized

[katze]

he just called you polarized

ur face is polarized

[nebjiamn]

ur face is polarized

[Sunbae]

when benneh calls me helpful and constructive

[hollowkatt]

You... want to give up town KP in a game that's gonna have like 6 deaths in the first four phases?

Like I'm struggling to parse this, you want to have the ability to read into the kill the wolves make at night, but you don't think you'll be able to read into a kill that we collectively decide to make instead of just the wolves? And you want to preemptively make D1 have no stakes by removing the possibility of a wolf dying?

That's like.... some wild degree of TWTBAW / TWTBTWTBAW / TWTBWTRIWMVMWIRWJ:KFSDKDF:JKDF where my brain kind of blue screens.

in my defense I have not read the setup at all but judging by this reaction my idea is stupid af.
gonna go back to killing ender then, I think they could use some "hey do something townie" pressure

vote: ender

[hollowkatt]

I think sunbae has been like obvs villagery for like the whole game, someone explain to me why I'm wrong because I see quite a few people saying I'm wrong. Not like "HK you are wrong" but lots of "sunbae can absolutely be a wolf"

[Newcomb]

i still think almost every post newcomb posts is wolfy

I think this is the part where I'm supposed to say something like, "Katze's the kind of player who lacks the testicular fortitude to poke at me like this as a wolf."



Vote: Katze

[nebjiamn]

Vote: Newcomb