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katze 19:27 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Dobby:
I feel like benneh is cleared but im forgetting why he's just considered that, I'm sure it's there somewhere
hes polarized

not in wolf range

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Dobby 19:37 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by katze:
wait did i do that

wtf past me LMAO

okay i dont have an answer to that ill assume it was more "hollowkatt should be higher" but

something something grumble grumble "it won't matter because they're all town anyway kill monty"
Lmao

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Montmorency 20:36 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by nebjiamn:
K I?ve sorted it out

were gonna yeet Monty today and he?ll flip v

im gonna die and you?re gonna lunch cuth to win the game

Read cuth and ender at eod. Read cuths position as a wagon during that discussion. Wolves thought he was going over. Ender found reasons to suspect cuth while sticking around trying to lunch newcomb and build that wagon as a counter. He then weakly clears cuth for a boring post. Props to Monty for deducing that post meant nothing

ladd goes from a 5th option that cuth wouldn?t kill to a 2nd vote on Ladd when it seems the wagons are going to tip back to cuth or cfd onto newc, rask, or some other lhf. Worst case cuth lands on Ladd in a 4 way rand.

ladd literally catches fire with votes from sleep and Monty with literally no time on the clock. Theres no time to react and no real way this could have been predicted. But why would cuth go against his word when other wagons he WOULD lunch and DOES wolf read more than Ladd ? Why does ender clear cuth over a NAI post? Cuth wagon disintegrates at that point and ender needs a way to decommit from voting there if newc doesn?t catch on.

I?ll bet my entire deck mafia card collection on this. Cuth is mafia
We keep returning to how Cuth has genuine bussing equity, but what I don't like about the theory is that it requires Ender-Cuth to have the exact same kind of elaborate distancing show that Ender-ladd participated in just hours prior. Does that happen?

Further, it's very hard for Cuth to justify surviving to F3, which is why I kept saying earlier that the ladd wagon is self-resolving.

Has anyone reviewed Cuth-Ender interactions D2? Or if someone wants to do fresh work, compare his play to the last game in this forum, Mass Effect, with somewhat similar progression to this one: Cuth towned but I tinfoiled him.

Town only has rounds for 4 ousters.

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Montmorency 20:45 04-28-2022
What are you all even poasting about though? What's the gist of all these recent walls, that you all continue to suspect each other for murky reasons while there is a classic POE case on exactly one player?

At least reach for untapped reservoirs and ISO Ender D2 rather than skimming EOD1 over and over again.

There is no such thing as an info wagon with one scum left.

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Cuthillius 20:50 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
What are you all even poasting about though? What's the gist of all these recent walls, that you all continue to suspect each other for murky reasons while there is a classic POE case on exactly one player?

At least reach for untapped reservoirs and ISO Ender D2 rather than skimming EOD1 over and over again.

There is no such thing as an info wagon with one scum left.
ender d2 gameplan is likely a) try to ingratiate me and b) antispew a fair bit just to make sure

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Cuthillius 21:03 04-28-2022
like given the flips and the way the wolfteam seems to have been d1 is by far the most informative period and anything after there gets a lot harder to read

i don't think focusing primarily on the first phase is at all a bad idea esp since it came very close to just being absolutely fine for wolves (under pressure, but not that clarified)

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Raskolnikov 21:18 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by hollowkatt:
coffee tell is a universal wolf tell :D
comes from MU (I think)
Mostly I'm joking but if F3 is legit me, you, and someone else I'm gonna look long and hard at you
Read two pages after post 583. You will understand I am not going to F3. (unless you are the wolf )

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hollowkatt 21:29 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov:
Read two pages after post 583. You will understand I am not going to F3. (unless you are the wolf )
not only would I take you to F3 I would also dunk on you. But not this game my friend.

anyways, I'm ending on vote: Monte. Might be here for EOD might not

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Montmorency 21:30 04-28-2022
OK, so ISO D2 it is. I'll do more if I feel like it, but the first hours of SOD 2 are Cuth defending cape and ender while being weird about bussing (I never said he bussed) and Ender probably spewing Rask town by calling him a D1 busser without calling him a D1 busser.

Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
monty if you think i bus there i have no words for you lol
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
yeah i think if it was a goon flip sure

but losing sorceror esp when a strong player is

going beyond like bussing in order to clear with that degree of things being up in the air into just actively antiwincon territory
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
i think i would feel more strongly about this if ladd ever had much traction, but he really didn't for the most part
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
yeah i think if it was a goon flip sure

but losing sorceror esp when a strong player is

going beyond like bussing in order to clear with that degree of things being up in the air into just actively antiwincon territory
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
i think i would feel more strongly about this if ladd ever had much traction, but he really didn't for the most part
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
Originally Posted by cape:
I feel like you have a lot of experience with ladd in turbos and such to where you would easily pick up when ladd is mafia. Heck, even I had my suspicions there, though I did express I wasn't confident in that admittedly.
this would be a pretty ballsy thing to say as a wolf here
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
Originally Posted by Newcomb:
Someone get Ender on the phone to call this post wolfy for faking a simple mistake because apparently that's something wolves do a lot.
this is unnecessary
Originally Posted by Cuthillius:
vote: montmorency

sum'n sum'n
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
I don't remember much of the time I've seen Rask wolf but he's usually a sideways busser. Like he'll never be the primary push on a partner.

He can bus tho.


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Raskolnikov 21:47 04-28-2022
Iirc I wolfed exactly one game against Ender on the giraffe boards. We swept. D1 busser lolz

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katze 21:59 04-28-2022
oh btw im prob gonna be preoccupied playing new DRG update so uhh

yeah i dont intend on doing much

however i will hardclaim town

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Raskolnikov 22:10 04-28-2022
OK EOD is 2 am my time, while I am waking up at 5 am (business trip). So I am prolly not attending EOD.

vote: Monty

voting here since that's consensus it seems. Hopefully you will all lol at me in postgame while I sleep. In case you don't, we are talking about Cuth tmr.

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hollowkatt 22:36 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov:
OK EOD is 2 am my time, while I am waking up at 5 am (business trip). So I am prolly not attending EOD.

vote: Monty

voting here since that's consensus it seems. Hopefully you will all lol at me in postgame while I sleep. In case you don't, we are talking about Cuth tmr.
gl with the business trip Rask. be safe!

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Cape90 22:42 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
OK, so ISO D2 it is. I'll do more if I feel like it, but the first hours of SOD 2 are Cuth defending cape and ender while being weird about bussing (I never said he bussed) and Ender probably spewing Rask town by calling him a D1 busser without calling him a D1 busser.
cant believe with 1 mafia left im mafia with cuth

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Cape90 22:43 04-28-2022
I really don't think it's anything but Monty, it just looks like he's looking for popular places to shoot his shot at.

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nebjiamn 23:16 04-28-2022


vote: montmorency

gg all, was fun

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Visor 23:30 04-28-2022
Players Votes

Montmorency 8 (Sleep, Dobby, Cuthillius, Cape90, katze, hollowkatt, Raskolnikov, nebjiamn)
katze 1 (Montmorency)

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Montmorency 23:33 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Cape90:
cant believe with 1 mafia left im mafia with cuth
I'd count misrepresenting me against you normally, but not when the entire list is doing it.

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Cape90 23:36 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
I'd count misrepresenting me against you normally, but not when the entire list is doing it.
it more had to do with the detail that cuth was defending me/ender

I know that's not the point you were actually getting at

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Montmorency 23:41 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Cape90:
it more had to do with the detail that cuth was defending me/ender

I know that's not the point you were actually getting at
Then what were you trying to say?

Originally Posted by :
it just looks like he's looking for popular places to shoot his shot at.
It sounds like you were saying that I tried to partner you and cuth in order to... POE both you and Cuth I guess? Even though I've been consistent all day?

I initiated the summary of D2, the first hours (katze wasn't included as she had no notable content). If y'all want to succeed, might best to finish it.

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Cuthillius 23:48 04-28-2022
lol us

(for the future)

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Dobby 23:56 04-28-2022
hey cuth i think i saved you for today


(lets pretend he was in danger tbh)

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katze 00:00 04-29-2022
Originally Posted by Visor:
Players Votes

Montmorency 8 (Sleep, Dobby, Cuthillius, Cape90, katze, hollowkatt, Raskolnikov, nebjiamn)
katze 1 (Montmorency)
selfvote you coward

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katze 00:03 04-29-2022
i forgot if EoD was in 1 hour or two

either way

Originally Posted by Dobby:
hey cuth i think i saved you for today


(lets pretend he was in danger tbh)
wtf so did i

(lolus if he's the last wolf)

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Dobby 00:12 04-29-2022
Originally Posted by katze:
i forgot if EoD was in 1 hour or two

either way



wtf so did i

(lolus if he's the last wolf)
i only mean it if he isnt the last wolf

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hollowkatt 00:18 04-29-2022
we'll let Dobby think it was him :D

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Cape90 00:21 04-29-2022
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Then what were you trying to say?



It sounds like you were saying that I tried to partner you and cuth in order to... POE both you and Cuth I guess? Even though I've been consistent all day?

I initiated the summary of D2, the first hours (katze wasn't included as she had no notable content). If y'all want to succeed, might best to finish it.
I was mainly thinking about the Cuth thing since it has become a point of discussion because of Rask.

I wasn't talking specifically about myself

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katze 00:26 04-29-2022
Originally Posted by Dobby:
i only mean it if he isnt the last wolf
i especially mean it if he's the last wolf because it's funnier

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Sleep 00:31 04-29-2022
i am here

i have had a busy day

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hollowkatt 00:33 04-29-2022
Originally Posted by Sleep:
i am here

i have had a busy day


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