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  1. #2941

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze View Post
    weh

    whatever im not shielding cuth anymore

    this isn't worth my sanity

    go fucking wild i still think he's a villager
    huh

  2. #2942

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobby View Post
    He plays so fuckin well (sorry cuth i know you dont like it when i give you compliments) and i feel like it's that kind of wolf performance that everyone should have in mind always
    you ALSO play so heckin well

  3. #2943

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze View Post
    first impression is that cuth types like me and i've noticed it before but i feel like it's... more katzey that game than normal?
    a) this post made me smile the rest of it not this quote specifically

    b) wolf claim???

  4. #2944

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze View Post
    anyway im thinking. my impression of cuth at eod1 in slep is "look good after radishes flips", i don't think he expected radishes to go over? around the time mac votes radishes is probably when wolves realized he was dying
    nah i basically signed radish's death warrant there

    stuff had been shifting in his direction for a while and i knew i needed to bus exactly there to have any chance of wolves winning the game

    there were like seven villagers that were pretty much clear just by posting d1

    it was not conducive to wolves winning

    i wasn't like guaranteed radishes will die but it was clear he wasn't going to last and it was clear mac wasn't going to last at that point either and i felt like given a cop i had to do that there to just make it possible to endgame period given threadstate

  5. #2945

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt View Post
    it has the proper "I am the middle of the road wolf" wolf placement doesn't it.

    meh
    i am staring at this post

    what does this post mean

  6. #2946

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    i desperately need to sleep and have stuff i need to do

    but i will make time for this game tomorrow i promise that

    also if the wolf wins by bringing specifically me and gira to f3 i will just laugh

    that is all i will do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    huh
    Why does this post in particular confuse you? It seems like a straight forward thing right?

  8. #2948

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    heck

    i posted some great gifs in that game

  9. #2949

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 View Post
    Why does this post in particular confuse you? It seems like a straight forward thing right?
    i'll talk about it tomorrow!

  10. #2950

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    Hekllo its past 5pm and i just woke up fml

  11. #2951

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 View Post
    Dobby you said this earlier, what made you reconsider?
    that was referring to the poe he had presented, where he wanted cuth dead first but in his post wrote kat first then cuth

  12. #2952

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    I'm sorry you had to endure my posts last night, theyre mostly incomprehensible lumps of badly spelled words and i should be ashamed of myself


    guests were supposed to show up 10 mins ago but that means i prolly have an hour, ill do some Stuff til then

  13. #2953

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    I just read through rask's stuff on cuth and i think most of it still is very confbiasy but there are some posts from the pbp idontlikecuth thing that do stand out a little for me, a few examples

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    oh i forgot about this post

    i have a hard time reading monstr because his playstyle as a wolf is self-aware in a way distinct from a lot of people, and it's not just like being able to post like a villager would but genuinely intuitively generating stuff that he would think as a villager by maintaining a sort of self-aware distance while wolfing

    meaning his wolf posts have a villagery flavor to them that is stronger than a lot of peoples' and it's similar enough to mine that i have a hard time ever trusting how i read it


    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    ok so you are not poundering my alignment here. cool stuff. (because that's basically what you are doing here, you don't try to figure it out. why is me disagreeing with you about 3 specific slots makes me a wolf?)
    it's not, i don't really have that much of a read on you

    i'm voting you because i have an idea of who villagers are in this game and no real leads in any way on who the wolves are and so i'm voting people who aren't villagery and who are trying to kill villagers

    that doesn't mean that your posts are wolfy it just means they're not villagery and you're trying to kill people i think are villagers and also in what could be an opportunistic way
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    it's kinda sad that both katze and benneh are voting me

    that gets me down a bit

    in terms of how i'm playing this game

    i would be tempted to vote ladd but i think winston voting ladd just from the game perspective more broadly is vaguely wack and it makes me feel less great about it

    rask is fine

    otherwise csargo monty really just feel like uninteresting

    i think if i had another hour i might feel good about going hk but right now i have a hard time i need to spend more time and there isn't more time
    a lot of it is rambly in cuth's own charming way but if you stop to focus it kinda makes sense coming from cuth, idk how much previous experience you have with eachother but that might be why i dont react as heavily on cuth's posts. These ones all do kinda look sussy in thir own way and prolly some more i just didnt care to include


    BUT, and again, this one is just a lot more concentrated and makes sense (sorry rask your work was gr8 too but benneh put it in one post)

    Quote Originally Posted by nebjiamn View Post
    K I?ve sorted it out

    were gonna yeet Monty today and he?ll flip v

    im gonna die and you?re gonna lunch cuth to win the game

    Read cuth and ender at eod. Read cuths position as a wagon during that discussion. Wolves thought he was going over. Ender found reasons to suspect cuth while sticking around trying to lunch newcomb and build that wagon as a counter. He then weakly clears cuth for a boring post. Props to Monty for deducing that post meant nothing

    ladd goes from a 5th option that cuth wouldn?t kill to a 2nd vote on Ladd when it seems the wagons are going to tip back to cuth or cfd onto newc, rask, or some other lhf. Worst case cuth lands on Ladd in a 4 way rand.

    ladd literally catches fire with votes from sleep and Monty with literally no time on the clock. Theres no time to react and no real way this could have been predicted. But why would cuth go against his word when other wagons he WOULD lunch and DOES wolf read more than Ladd ? Why does ender clear cuth over a NAI post? Cuth wagon disintegrates at that point and ender needs a way to decommit from voting there if newc doesn?t catch on.

    I?ll bet my entire deck mafia card collection on this. Cuth is mafia


    i know my solving rn is "what have others written" but shrugze im doing what i can with the time i have to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    there's basically zero upside if newc flips v

    given the way basically everyone's handled him

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    vote: ladd

    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    I kinda wanna kill your info yeet approach tbh

    Quote Originally Posted by katze View Post
    dont kill sleep
    maybe kill newcomb??? idk fuck
    probably dont kill csargo
    dont kill hollowkatt what the fuck why is he a wagon
    dont kill rask

    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    Players Votes

    Newcomb 2 (Enderwiggin, Sleep)
    Csargo 2 (Cape90, hollowkatt)
    hollowkatt 2 (Dobby, Csargo)
    Raskolnikov 2 (Monstrdude, Montmorency)
    ladd 2 (Winston Hughes, Cuthillius)
    Sleep 2 (ladd, Newcomb)
    Cuthillius 1 (Raskolnikov)
    Montmorency 1 (Sunbae)
    Enderwiggin 1 (zack)

    1118

    Quote Originally Posted by katze View Post
    vote: Newcomb

    fingers crossed but i do not like any other wagon at all really
    Like, ladd got 3 votes at :00 by sleep, monty and rask

    cuth placed vote nr 2 on ladd when it looked like he really wouldnt go down, at :58.

    I mean i did a vca on monty mostly looking at the unvote but i shouldve focused on the timing of his vote, and i was wrong. but this cuth vote placement is like, similar to the MR vote in the game i linked in so many ways, its almost eerie. Basically cuth said it in his own words better than i could ahve


    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    nah i basically signed radish's death warrant there

    stuff had been shifting in his direction for a while and i knew i needed to bus exactly there to have any chance of wolves winning the game

    there were like seven villagers that were pretty much clear just by posting d1

    it was not conducive to wolves winning

    i wasn't like guaranteed radishes will die but it was clear he wasn't going to last and it was clear mac wasn't going to last at that point either and i felt like given a cop i had to do that there to just make it possible to endgame period given threadstate
    like, yeah, cuth makes sense

    feel like d2 d3 votes are close to meaningless maybe imma have a look

  15. #2955

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    Players Votes

    Montmorency 3 (Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov)
    Cape90 3 (nebjiamn, Sleep, EnderWiggin)
    Newcomb 2 (Montmorency, Cape90)
    EnderWiggin 1 (Dobby)
    Cuthillius 1 (hollowkatt)
    katze 1 (Cuthillius)

    2098


    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    2113

    Players Votes

    Montmorency 4 (Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov, Cape90)
    Cape90 3 (nebjiamn, Sleep, EnderWiggin)
    Newcomb 2 (Montmorency, katze)
    EnderWiggin 1 (Dobby)
    Cuthillius 1 (hollowkatt)
    katze 1 (Cuthillius)


    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    Players Votes

    Newcomb 4 (Montmorency, hollowkatt, katze, Cape90)
    Montmorency 3 (Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov)
    Cape90 3 (nebjiamn, Sleep, EnderWiggin)
    EnderWiggin 2 (Dobby, Sunbae)
    katze 1 (Cuthillius)


    tally correct, ordering isnt (i, dobby fixed it)


    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    Players Votes

    Newcomb 4 (Montmorency, katze, Cape90, hollowkatt)
    Montmorency 3 (Newcomb, zack, Raskolnikov)
    Cape90 3 (nebjiamn, Sleep, EnderWiggin)
    EnderWiggin 2 (Dobby, Sunbae)
    katze 1 (Cuthillius)


    I believe this is the correct tally.

    10 minutes for corrections.

    i kinda hate that those are the names on newcomb wagon

    id say maybe its a good look for cuth that he wasnt on any of the main wagons but he wasnt there during the eod, and vanity wagon easy way to avoid the spotlight

    if it needs saying sleep is town, there's no way two wolves vote cape here for no reason when there's nothing at stake (im usually wrong when im confident about something)

    cape vote is self pres onto monty and then changes vote to newcomb to make him top wagon. i think from a t!cape perspective it makes sense that he has two counterwagons to himself and he selfpresses onto whoever he thinks is more likely scum?

    hollowkatts voting pattern here is nai, rask is locked onto monty shrug not meaningful

  16. #2956

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    i think monstr might be in the category of people who approach mafia in a similar enough way to me as wolves in particular that i have a hard time actually figuring him out

    i don't know who else is in that category off the top of my head but monstr is that's for sure
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleep View Post
    oh i thought you'd have something spicy
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 View Post
    that explains the bubbling scumread I had on both of you. Thanks for telling me you two aren't w/w
    kekw whos most sus off of this, sleep, cape or cuth?

  17. #2957

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobby View Post
    kekw whos most sus off of this, sleep, cape or cuth?
    wait no the sleep post was in response to a cuth post about zack

    the cape post was in response to that post about monstr though

  18. #2958

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    i do agree that monstr/i have a lot of partner equity e t c
    god for cuth i want to call this wofly


    Quote Originally Posted by ladd View Post
    katze treatement of newcomb this game is pretty much a carbon copy of how he treated me as v/v in the poisoner invitational 21er afair

    except he gave me d1 freepass (and i did get n1ed)


    and i dont really think they'd play like this as a wolf
    mh

    Quote Originally Posted by ladd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae View Post
    I'm hoping that if I said 0-1 in [Sleep, Zack, HK, Neb, Newc, Cuth] I'd be correct
    why cuth?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae View Post
    Because I don't think Cuth/Monstr work together

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    i'm very comfortable with calling cape strong v at this point and just making sure to look back in a day or two


    Quote Originally Posted by ladd View Post
    i will prob be around even less tomorrow

    villas

    newcomb
    zack

    benneh

    katze
    sleep
    HK
    mont
    ladd
    cape

    what does it mean that neither ender nor monstrbo are in this list. katze and cape are, cuth isnt. I feel like... you dont write a list like this and dont include at least one teammate since all three have been active? cape/katze that is?
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt View Post
    vote: monster

    some time tonight I'm gonna put together a reads list. I think monster belongs at the bottom of it.
    good look for hk atthis point in the game

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Because last time I entered a game and had a visceral bad reaction to Cape's posts and called him wolf all game he flipped green so I'm trying something new =P
    mmmmmh i dont like this for cape at all
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomb View Post
    It's not "never interact with people you wolfread you," that would be silly. It's that I don't find it productive to talk to people who wolfread me, or people I wolfread, about that read.

    Like what actual good do you think it's gonna do to try to argue about this specific issue if we happen to be v/v? It would be like that meme of spider man pointing at himself.

    My wolfread on you is based on a) me noticing that you were talking about me in a way that looked performative vs. having a specific read or one that seemed inquisitive. I.e. just kind of waving your hand around and going "hey guys newcomb looks wolfy" type posts. And then b) me being generally on the lookout for a wolf to try this kind of thing with me - poking at/around me specifically to get townread. Your treatment of me matched both my loose range of people who might try this, and the lack of depth in the approach to it matched my conception of the commitment someone might have to that kind of play D1.

    The problem is, what are you going to say to that that's going to be productive in addressing that? "Nah bro that's not what I'd do as a wolf."? We're not arguing about the base facts of what you did, we'd be arguing about subjective interpretations about it, and what use would that be? You're biased.

    And you could pretty much flip everything I just said around for you wolfreading me.

    If you want my read on you to evolve and change, just play the game, show me you're invested in it, show me your thought process. If you want to find common ground with me specifically, talk to me about literally anything other than your alignment or mine.

    Here, I'll start: right now what I'm considering a pivot point this game is cape vs. sleep. Going through the possible worlds where they're v/v, v/w, w/v, and w/w, what do you think the game looks like in those worlds, does anything really important stand out? Do you think any of those configurations are wildly unlikely?
    theres some back and forth between katze and some unprovoked reactions from ender to katze's posts that just... arent necessary to approach from ender when he already has a line of discussion with kat, which makes me feel like, this is something ender does to strengthen ties to kat/cares about kats read on him, this is just one of many posts im linking, katze addressed sunbae and newcomb in the post ender is answering.


    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ladd View Post
    katze treatement of newcomb this game is pretty much a carbon copy of how he treated me as v/v in the poisoner invitational 21er afair

    except he gave me d1 freepass (and i did get n1ed)


    and i dont really think they'd play like this as a wolf
    Kinda vibe with this read.

    Also I like Katze's humour esp around the sleep wagon/etc so
    Does both ladd and ender townread katze like this if katze is their teammate? ladd did soft v read ender similarly but i dont think hed do it for teammate katze AS WELL?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    ender, do you think there are any ways in which the general consensus of the thread starkly differs from your perception of the game?
    I'm not sure there is a general consensus.

    But there are definitely a few trends I've seen which I'm not entirely onboard with.

    See the scumreads I just posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    i feel ender is >(>*.5)rand villagery despite also doing a lot of wolfy things

    this makes me feel less cozy about some people i called villagers earlier

    more on this another time

    god i want to say these posts look like a wolf trying to interact with a temmate.. it looks... very teammatey ngl

  19. #2959

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    it looks like the two ~consensus (given this point in the game) reads you list are ladd/sunbae v?

    second seems dubious given that zack and others have suspected him

    wrt ladd do you think your issues could be a result of him latching onto a specific "tell" and anchoring onto it and then your automatically suspecting him because he's pressuring you for suspect reasons? what do you think about his content outside of his push on you? do you think it's meaningful that a lot of people are v-reading him?

    how do you feel about the larger-scale pushes on sunbae in the context of your main issue being that particular thing he said

    why do you think him walking that back is something he'd be more likely to do as a wolf than as a villager? what are some reasons you think he could have done that there as town?
    lmao reading this from the w!cuth perspective is hilarious. i dont know why cuth would define enders read to ender like this as town tbqh

    Quote Originally Posted by zack View Post
    cuth is asking too many questions

    he's been moved to sightly below null

    make your own content bronana
    lmao zack i love u

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Nah Sunbae is more consensus w than v.

    As I said tho, not really consensus reads exist, mine are only a bit out of whack with thread.

    WRT Ladd I absolutely could see it. But I also think like, he's jumped onto this small thing like a bull terrier and hasn't even bothered to think deeper about it. Like he's got his excuse to push me, doesn't see any solid defense of me, so he's just happy to sit on it and exist without re-evalling.

    The larger scale push on him exists but I haven't noticed anything with it that I thought was sus?

    I think him walking it back would happen regardless of alignment, as he obviously didn't have a solid reason for it. But I feel like as town there would at least be an explanation of how he got there, instead of this vague "I thought about it and changed my mind." that doesn't tell us exactly how his brain jumped to that.
    i think someone said cuth is town based on ender interactions d1 but i genuinely think what im reading now is not v/w at all. or, it doesnt excxlude w/w in any way tbqh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrdude View Post
    Sunbae
    Cuth
    Sleep

    V/v/v imo

    Maaaaaybe zack
    something something rule of 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    nods, appreciate this

    i qualified the word consensus when i used it in the initial thing for a reason, yeah, more just like the reads that are held by enough people that they're sorta taken as the default in a sense beyond just being held by n people

    i would cite like the reads on benneh/ladd as examples of this where people are often just ok like using less effort to clear someone just because so many other people or other people who are active/trustworthy are reading them a certain way

    but this matters to some extent because often these are useful for wolves who can further agendas without actually like proactively doing anything towards them, but can also be the process of slow and inevitable death for wolves in face of towncore

    wrt ladd sure

    do you think the fact that there's like a third of the game that's relatively low impact could make it more likely for v!ladd to put his vote on you, someone who's active and has done a thing he doesn't like, compared to people who have less content and maybe might have fewer villagery things in their favor but also feel less productive to actually vote?

    i mean i do things and think things without all of my thought process making into thread all of the time, i'm mostly curious why you jump to "since thought process isn't there, it's >rand w" instead of being like "hey what's the thought process" and then evaluate that on its own merits

    there are things where can be ai, but do you think that particular thing seems like something that he literally just made up, and thus not going into more depth is wolfy? do you think w!sunbae would be more or less likely to monitor what he was doing and avoid doing things without having a reasonable reason to back them up than v!sunbae?
    if cuth is w/w with ender i guess thats a LOT of effort put in to communicate with a teammate rather than... communicating with others?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    I think V or W Ladd focuses more on the active players at this point. Active players for town can give you something. Active players for wolves are dangerous and voting the low impact sorta afk people is something I only see newer wolves do. Unless an experienced wolf has a good reason.

    I will point out re: Sunbae that I have straight up asked Sunbae to give me their train of thought. And appended my wolf read with a "Unless their explanation makes me happy jiggle."

    Can I just ask:
    What is the point to these questions? It half feels like you're trying to find a way to pin me into a corner where I've somehow contridicted myself. And I must say it is not a feeling I like in the slightest.
    maybe cuth is just being cuthy

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 View Post
    Town:

    zack
    nebjiamn
    Sleep
    Newcomb

    Light Town:

    Sunbae
    EnderWiggin
    Cuthillus
    Hollowkatt
    katze

    Talk more:

    Montmorency

    Light Wolf:

    Csargo
    ladd
    Monstrdude
    Winston
    Dobby

    here is reads that I have developed while struggle trying to ISO people without the ISO functionality

    I bolded my most confident wolf reads.

    vote: Csargo

    I think Csargo has had good and bad. And I feel like Csargo has been dodgy with some of their posts. What I mean is with some of the language they use in these posts like.



    and



    make of it what you will. Yes I understand people have used my light usage of words against me too, but this feels next level.
    hm this list is pretty good and ballsy if w/w/w with ladd and monstr considering ladd wasnt really sussed a lot back then, if at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthillius View Post
    ladd what's even more incredible is that your ability to read and appreciate the points i'm making in my posts appears to be inversely correlated with my ability to write points that feel like they make sense to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 View Post
    why does mafia make this post literally ever?

    I also like these two posts. Okay and this post too ;)

    Not to mention they had these similar reads to me.
    i feel like cape has an intentional strategy of making his posts hard to parse or follow lol


    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    First of all:

    Sleep is probably town. There is a minor assumption that probably isn't good but the nitpicky right off the bat is kinda rand!town IMO and I've just liked their content overall.

    It was a fun wagon at the start and the memes were great, but honestly like I would not vote there any time soon.

    On the other hand, I have reasons to believe this might be Cape's towngame. Or at least that he does several of the things he's being poked about as both alignments. I recently sussed them hard for a similar game and they were green that game.

    Caveat that I haven't actually read a wolf game of theirs.
    there it is again, the bolded. i feel like ender is likely teamed with cape with his approach towards him, and i do agree after seeing 100 more posts with a back and forth with cuth that they feel less likely teamed tbh

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    just based on ender interactions rt katze and cuth i wawnt to vote cape here, with a chance that its cuth as well because thats more fakeable and more likely to be scum scum.

    but yeah more factors etc. this d1 has a lot of info since we have 3 flipped wolves and its tricky finding the relevant bits

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Oh also, Katze is town too. Lots of good head noddy posts from em. The snarky response about voting them out to Ladd was a meme about lyrical composition.
    hm

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    zack
    Honestly, my read on Zack keeps changing. I have felt irked by his constant susses on me, but have agreed with some of his other content. Very much a wibbly wobbly timey wimey read.

    nebjiamn
    Is have liked their content. Also their initial reactions to the waves I pushed their way have been okay.

    cuthillius
    They are doing a lot of questioning that doesn't appear to have a point to me? Like especially the way they did the questioning of me. It felt very much like a "Questioning gotcha" where they kept poking for ways to twist words. I'll quote this stuff later.

    Ladd
    Case pending to an office near you.

    Winston Hughes
    I like Winston. No particular reasons. Also Winston's early posting like this doesn't ring any alarm bells so meh.

    Raskolnikov
    ??? Where this slot is.

    Newcomb
    Maybe a case coming to a thread near you soon.

    Csargo
    There's a black hole on my read here.

    EnderWiggin
    Obvious scum pls.

    Sunbae
    I like the vibe. I was pressing earlier to see what he would react when I tried to force him to make a reason up. The whole "Fuck you I give no reason" response was actually what I was hoping for so.

    Montmorency
    I feel like there's an aura of general sus on Monty. Which generally tends towards being a town thing early. Usually the scum have others defending them in a sideways enough manner that they don't become so thread general.

    Dobby
    Idk. Free elf probably? I remember like 0 of their posts.

    monstrbro
    Weak. Like I haven't seen anything from them that feels like a solid take that holds water.

    hollowkatt
    Their treatment of me is bad. But also I just pocketed them hard as wolf twice in a row. So I'm willing to believe it might just be a river of paranoia remnant.
    oooh nice, a list.


    am i blind or is cape not in this list lmao

    dude cape is not in this list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrdude View Post
    At this point though I think over half the game has called me a wolf and if there's not a wolf in there I would be literally floored lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    vote: EnderWiggin

    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrdude View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    vote: EnderWiggin
    I don't hate it, not one of the villagiest people that's been wolfreading me

    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    Just vote Ender before leaving though.

    When you come back, we will talk about your sense of consensus and also willingness to AtE at 2 votes :) (I am kinda wording this as a joke, but when I have read your content I may come back to this)

    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    What's got you on my case Raskol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    Just vote Ender before leaving though.

    When you come back, we will talk about your sense of consensus and also willingness to AtE at 2 votes :) (I am kinda wording this as a joke, but when I have read your content I may come back to this)
    Explain how that was AtE or I vote you
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    Are you trying to make me look bad? What part of that was appealing to emotion

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    I honestly almost don't care and want to vote you anyway because I'm sick of things like that

    I don't care about this game

    Thats not ate

    If you think this is AtE then perhaps get a class on emotions and their uses

    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    well u do u but when u post "spicy" because someone outs a light townread 3 pages into the game pretending noone has been, it can certainly raise questions. I don't think you think HK didn't think it, really. if you are villa, relax, otherwise keep going



    okay @hollowkatt re your tinfoil on rask, look at this sequence and tell me its w/w/w, that rask chooses to bump heads with two wolfmates simultaneously and be pretty aggro like this. just no, rask lock v

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobby View Post
    i kinda hate that those are the names on newcomb wagon

    id say maybe its a good look for cuth that he wasnt on any of the main wagons but he wasnt there during the eod, and vanity wagon easy way to avoid the spotlight

    if it needs saying sleep is town, there's no way two wolves vote cape here for no reason when there's nothing at stake (im usually wrong when im confident about something)

    cape vote is self pres onto monty and then changes vote to newcomb to make him top wagon. i think from a t!cape perspective it makes sense that he has two counterwagons to himself and he selfpresses onto whoever he thinks is more likely scum?

    hollowkatts voting pattern here is nai, rask is locked onto monty shrug not meaningful
    You know that around the EOD that day I was saying that I thought Monty could be town and I liked the case on Newcomb that katze presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobby View Post
    kekw whos most sus off of this, sleep, cape or cuth?
    I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobby View Post
    kekw whos most sus off of this, sleep, cape or cuth?
    Also that sleep quote is not sus at all so ??????????????????????

    I have good reason to just allow sleep to win if they are just mafia here. No way your convincing me of that world

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    okay i think i got what i wanted out of that


    rask is my top town

    i had a few points pro sleep in my reread of day 1 but i think ive been the most lenient towards sleep so if in f3 situation id dive deep into their iso again and stuff, but not until then.

    hollowkatt probably just town but will be in f3 (get rekt son)

    katze looks decent actually from how theyve approached the day, has a big focus on newcomb and the interactions just seem to be like, digging into stuff in a genuine way. ender interactions really looks like ender tries to pocket kat with focus on persuading kat of stuff in situations that dont make sense for a w/w pairing. but also #thefear


    -----gap-----------

    i think enders parked vote on cape d2 can legit be a oh no i voted a teammate up for contention and if i change my vote itll be obvious.

    i think ender's comment in his readslist on cuth is actually a good look for cuth.


    but cuths vote on ladd d1 can definitely be a wolf vote since, it was vote nr 2 and then ladd got 3 votes last minute. but ladd was pr so hm weh.


    cuth has some wolfy posts slash some hmthonk opinions early on especially in hindsight with the flips. cuth played it really similarly to the haunted by slep game that i linked, where theres a "doomed teammate" but ladd was less so than mr i feel like, maybe.

    cape just, looks by far the worst with the flipped wolf interactions though.

    i do agree with some others that cape posting in bursts is a decent look, but honestly something ive done as well to avoid wolffatigue. theres also a readslist that looks alright but i think in hindsight i dont want to give it too much cred since ender was always the deep one among those 3

    and the thing where ender wrote a list of 14 names and cape was the one missing is.... weh lol weh lol weh



    I am very doubtful i'll vote someone other than cape today. if it's not cape it's cuth


    if it's neither have fun in f3


    Vote: Cape90

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    sorry cape i saw you just entered thread but i was trying to get done with this, guests are here waiting for me so i wont be able to interact.

    ill hopefully be ehre for eod, but cannot promise it tbh, i think ive done what i can with the time ive had. Sorry for spamming the thread over the lat two days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobby View Post
    but also #thefear
    i just got out of bed and this is the first thing i see

    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobby View Post
    hm



    oooh nice, a list.


    am i blind or is cape not in this list lmao

    dude cape is not in this list
    Hey Dobby

    Katze isn't on the list either.

    Can't believe Ender TMIed us both as town, the homie (I don't think this actually clears katze lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    First of all:

    Sleep is probably town. There is a minor assumption that probably isn't good but the nitpicky right off the bat is kinda rand!town IMO and I've just liked their content overall.

    It was a fun wagon at the start and the memes were great, but honestly like I would not vote there any time soon.

    On the other hand, I have reasons to believe this might be Cape's towngame. Or at least that he does several of the things he's being poked about as both alignments. I recently sussed them hard for a similar game and they were green that game.

    Caveat that I haven't actually read a wolf game of theirs.
    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Oh also, Katze is town too. Lots of good head noddy posts from em. The snarky response about voting them out to Ladd was a meme about lyrical composition.
    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    I should just put all the other reads together in one post.

    But stretching them out for drama is fun.

    But I'll do one post.
    he talks about me/sleep/cape right before that list which is why we're all absent from it @Dobby

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