Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Winston Hughes]

[Cuthillius]

(slightly above null)
cuth

we LOVE to SEE IT

[EnderWiggin]

Wolfiest of the first few posters :sparkleshrug:

Honestly feels kinda a weird take when you're pushing a wagon that was entirely (I think?) a meme to actually be in contention.

[katze]

I'm going to point out that last time I was actually wolf with you (Hello remember when I literally cased you and got you voted out and I was red?) I was townread and no one thought I was struggling to get into thread.

This honestly feels a VERY weird take on me given that the game I'm talking about was the last time HK and I played together. For him to seriously believe I would struggle to get my groove on as wolf is...

Kinda honestly wolfy.

link the game

[EnderWiggin]

do you have a read on me/zack's push on you?

you seem to care more to argue the argument than to sort if we are wolves pushing you iyam

Zack I don't remember well enough, but I don't think it's super AI for him. So I'm just pending more stuff from him.

You? Honestly, I disliked the read. I'll get back to you on my stances once I finish catching up.

[EnderWiggin]

link the game

Are we really playing this seriously?

It's the most recent pirate game on MafiaCafe. Finished like last week or something.

[nebjiamn]

dont link the game

katze dont be a nerd

[katze]

Are we really playing this seriously?

It's the most recent pirate game on MafiaCafe. Finished like last week or something.

well my first impression was that you were being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian so i'm calling the bluff

now how do i iso on maf cafe

[katze]

dont link the game

katze dont be a nerd

aret aret

[Winston Hughes]

I'm gonna say Benneh's thought process feels real to me on re-read and I think he should be above null into town.

i'm not seeing it

there's nothing that looks fake, but there's also nothing that couldn't be faked

[EnderWiggin]

@Sleep

Do I know you? Because I think I might know you.

[EnderWiggin]

i'm not seeing it

there's nothing that looks fake, but there's also nothing that couldn't be faked

Mostly just like, the consideration given to my reaction to him.

Maybe I'm weighting that higher than I should, but I feel like wolves wouldn't have the nuance of trying to parse out my reaction.

[EnderWiggin]

not really a fan of monsters posts so far

Hey look, Zack and I agree on something.

[EnderWiggin]

well my first impression was that you were being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian so i'm calling the bluff

now how do i iso on maf cafe

I'm ngl I will enjoy you suffering through that interface :3

[EnderWiggin]

now, although this post is taking issue with enders post in a similar way to cape, it goes a couple layers deeper in picking it apart and actually tries to assign a motive to it. it also makes sense for him to be a bit on edge since he's the one being talked about and presumably feels enders characterization of his post is unfair.

personally, i *see* what this is saying but im not *sure* its wolf-indicative for ender, necessarily

however, i like the process here and think nebjiamn (can i just call u ben?) is p. towny

@Winston

This is a response to Ben's response that I liked. And seeing the same things as me.

(I want to say mindmeld but I'm going to not give Sleep the towny points for reasons.tm.)

[katze]

booo you need an account to iso on maf cafe

whatever ill just wait for HK to address that

[EnderWiggin]

I didn't get that impression that he was putting it forward as something super deep or meaningful. I thought the lampshading that he was starting the game implied that he knew it wasn't.

After coming back to it, you may be right.

As I said earlier, I think I just kneejerk reacted to the first post ruining my happy fun meme time.

[EnderWiggin]

i still think almost every post newcomb posts is wolfy

I've had some thoughts that direction, talk to me about why?

[hollowkatt]

Yes.

I don't believe you

[Sleep]

sleep, what are your top 3 takes that have nothing to do with cape?

ive been holding onto a pocket wolfread of cuthilius for a minute. its not something i can drop a big wall on like with cape just mainly a gut feeling from his posts so far

for town i like ben/hollow probably the most but there are a bunch of ppl floating in the big nebulous pile of "fine" that i havent bothered to examine more closely yet

[EnderWiggin]

I don't believe you

Well shucks.

[hollowkatt]

I'm going to point out that last time I was actually wolf with you (Hello remember when I literally cased you and got you voted out and I was red?) I was townread and no one thought I was struggling to get into thread.

This honestly feels a VERY weird take on me given that the game I'm talking about was the last time HK and I played together. For him to seriously believe I would struggle to get my groove on as wolf is...

Kinda honestly wolfy.

ok, so what gives then? Why does it seem like this game is harder to get into for you?
If you're villager shitposting and tossing off ideas should be fairly straightforward.

The unspoken part of that read I made on you is that this player list is vastly different than that player list and I also did say I was ego solving there and I would struggle as wolf to get established in this list.

You dumpstered me last game, hard, and of course I'm going to be wary of you in this game because of that.

Go be town and do townie things and I'll call you town. Till then I won't.

[hollowkatt]

link the game

it's the pirate game on mafiacafe

[hollowkatt]

Well shucks.

ikr, soz.

outside of me who else do you think is sus? maybe we can talk and I'll change my mind.

[Sleep]

@Sleep: do i know you? y/n is enough, you feel vaguely familiar

@Sleep

Do I know you? Because I think I might know you.

for game integrity reasons i dont wanna drop hints about my identity (i feel like its...unfair to hint at stuff while a game is in progress and potentially get v read for it when ppl didnt know me to start)


ill just say i was invited here by visor (obviously), ive played on MU, and ive been playing this game half-imitating the style of someone none of you lot know. hopefully that will be enough.

[Cuthillius]

ive been holding onto a pocket wolfread of cuthilius for a minute. its not something i can drop a big wall on like with cape just mainly a gut feeling from his posts so far

for town i like ben/hollow probably the most but there are a bunch of ppl floating in the big nebulous pile of "fine" that i havent bothered to examine more closely yet

wall hype

[Cuthillius]

i should probably read your posts more attentively

[EnderWiggin]

ok, so what gives then? Why does it seem like this game is harder to get into for you?
If you're villager shitposting and tossing off ideas should be fairly straightforward.

The unspoken part of that read I made on you is that this player list is vastly different than that player list and I also did say I was ego solving there and I would struggle as wolf to get established in this list.

You dumpstered me last game, hard, and of course I'm going to be wary of you in this game because of that.

Go be town and do townie things and I'll call you town. Till then I won't.

I was having fun memeing at the start so unless you're talking about the sharp gear change on ben idk what you're talking about harder to get into.

[Newcomb]

thats a shame, cya in wolf chat tho

i dont think you ever explained that cuth/monstr read btw

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@Newcomb: if i'm not mistaken, you have a bit of a policy to not interact with people you wolfread, right? i'm assuming thats why you're kinda talking around me atp

if that's the case then i would prefer you not do that, at least for a bit?

i don't reallllly think your scumread on me is in good faith, but regardless of that i feel like more and more people who know you better than i know you are calling you a villager, some with a decent bit of confidence, and if they're right i feel like it'd be better for both of us to find some common ground

It's not "never interact with people you wolfread you," that would be silly. It's that I don't find it productive to talk to people who wolfread me, or people I wolfread, about that read.

Like what actual good do you think it's gonna do to try to argue about this specific issue if we happen to be v/v? It would be like that meme of spider man pointing at himself.

My wolfread on you is based on a) me noticing that you were talking about me in a way that looked performative vs. having a specific read or one that seemed inquisitive. I.e. just kind of waving your hand around and going "hey guys newcomb looks wolfy" type posts. And then b) me being generally on the lookout for a wolf to try this kind of thing with me - poking at/around me specifically to get townread. Your treatment of me matched both my loose range of people who might try this, and the lack of depth in the approach to it matched my conception of the commitment someone might have to that kind of play D1.

The problem is, what are you going to say to that that's going to be productive in addressing that? "Nah bro that's not what I'd do as a wolf."? We're not arguing about the base facts of what you did, we'd be arguing about subjective interpretations about it, and what use would that be? You're biased.

And you could pretty much flip everything I just said around for you wolfreading me.

If you want my read on you to evolve and change, just play the game, show me you're invested in it, show me your thought process. If you want to find common ground with me specifically, talk to me about literally anything other than your alignment or mine.

Here, I'll start: right now what I'm considering a pivot point this game is cape vs. sleep. Going through the possible worlds where they're v/v, v/w, w/v, and w/w, what do you think the game looks like in those worlds, does anything really important stand out? Do you think any of those configurations are wildly unlikely?

[EnderWiggin]

for game integrity reasons i dont wanna drop hints about my identity (i feel like its...unfair to hint at stuff while a game is in progress and potentially get v read for it when ppl didnt know me to start)


ill just say i was invited here by visor (obviously), ive played on MU, and ive been playing this game half-imitating the style of someone none of you lot know. hopefully that will be enough.

I'm gonna give you a soft v read anyway.