Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Newcomb]

I'm gonna call it a night here I think.

Fantastic time to do some re-reading though. Between the flips and clears that's a /ton/ of new potential info.

[Zack]

I think katze might be a wolf btw. their defense / reason for townreading dolby today was ... pretty rough

[Visor]

Players Votes

EnderWiggin 1 (zack)
nebjiamn 1 (Montmorency)
Montmorency 1 (Cuthillius)


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[Zack]

just seems like a p shallow reason to write the three of us off as town

i think dolby's wallpost kinda stinks

vote: dolby

this guy is probably town

[Cuthillius]

Sorry are you calling him a wolf or a villager here? Second and third lines say wolf, first says villager, first just a typo?

*makes no sense if teamed

*not the way he'd play as a wolf

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: Dobby

There can only be one

lmao. Sup Dolby.

overnight thoughts: ladd's wagon is pure. @Winston Hughes is a hero. I remember thinking Dobby looked good on EOD reread but can't really put a finger on it rn, may be suggesting a ladd cfd or something.
sleep/katze linked to newcomb's smh.
Benneh lean wolf.

*reads*

[Raskolnikov]

oh f me, I am 300 posts behind.

[Raskolnikov]

if there was a bus, it was Monty driving but yeah, I actually think Monty is town for now.

[Raskolnikov]

I still want Ender to die tbh. Kill him and boom bye Benneh. or the other way around.

[Raskolnikov]

zack/newcomb villagery at SOD2

[Raskolnikov]

i think dolby's wallpost kinda stinks

kinda. I feel the wolf!Dolby energy lmao (Dolby you will hate this read :D)

[Raskolnikov]

Winston kinda rocked it with the ladd thing tbh

sorry I wasn't here for EOD, would have hopped off Csargo if so (not really sure if I would have voted ladd or Rask in that situation, probs not Newcomb). But I was eating dinner out and i was away from cell signal. But dang I had this kinda asian style curry from like this pho place and it's so good. I am having the leftovers right now, man it smells good dude.

Anywho I shall be catching up

asian style curry wolfy NGL

[Raskolnikov]

Winston Hughes, Cuthillius, Montmorency, Raskolnikov

is a very strange list to me of people that voted on ladd. Especially since someone like benneh has obviously had a lot of experience with ladd and his meta

nothing but the best tbh.

Cuth locktown
me villa even if I mostly selfpressed
Monty's unvote is kinda weird, but dunno. don't wanna read into it too much rn because it could go both way. He put ladd in position in the first place (from which vote? need to check) I guess.
WH hero

why is Benneh mentionned here? @Cape90

[Raskolnikov]

I low key hate like the last 20 posts in Raskols ISO and would not be sad if he were to blow up.

ikr tbh

Which ones specifically and why?

[Raskolnikov]

Rask has no problem with bussing? Don't think I've ever seen him as a woof.

Mario Mafia 1 at CFC maybe?

[Cape90]

omg I knew Dolby was up to no good with that really easy to make ladd spew wall whatever bull

haha dude didnt wanna say that sleep looked the most clear like 1 million times over from the spew either!

[Cape90]

i think dolby's wallpost kinda stinks

I can't believe I stole this thought (i actually didnt know zack said anything first on it )

[Cape90]

nothing but the best tbh.

Cuth locktown
me villa even if I mostly selfpressed
Monty's unvote is kinda weird, but dunno. don't wanna read into it too much rn because it could go both way. He put ladd in position in the first place (from which vote? need to check) I guess.
WH hero

why is Benneh mentionned here? @Cape90

I feel like you have a lot of experience with ladd in turbos and such to where you would easily pick up when ladd is mafia. Heck, even I had my suspicions there, though I did express I wasn't confident in that admittedly.

thx for the admission that you are not reading

also Winston kinda did that, not Monty

[Cape90]

If you're so convinced I'm town, why do you seem so unimpressed by my case?

Caveat that I've skimmed very vaguely so if I missed something I apologise, but it feels like you've slapped this great big townread on me but have also completely ignored my actual push and has put a weak af townread on Newcomb

this literally feels like an empty question

you can townread somebody but still not like a case that that town provides

[Cape90]

Like, Cuth, I can understand if you disagree with it. But kinda feels weird if you just don't acknowledge it.

okay but didnt you just kinda say in that last post i quoted

like

you acknowledged that cuth was unimpressed by the case, which would imply at least acknowledgment.

Maybe what I am saying is poopy head material and you meant something else but shrugze

[Cape90]

on the topic of Montmorency and the ladd wagon.

please look at #961 and #964

like Mont goes from outright shading Winston for the vote on ladd, to joining Winston by EOD. I am either paranoid at an obvtown move or I am Sherlock Holmes

[Cape90]

I honestly thought Monty would call me a woof and snap vote me. Instead they just called me a woof or like lightly implied it I guess.

Winston's way far out in super happy fun time land, and I have no idea what to make of that.

Now I want an elaboration on a post that I will literally never get

[Cape90]

i sheeped sleep

it was a decent case for the early game

i was wondering about what someone else said, don't remember who was saying what but...

Bah I am literally a necromancer right now...

[Cape90]

my brain is telling me to be a hero and vote newcomb

someone tell me thats a bad idea and that i should feel stupid for having it

​Vote: Newcomb

im ngl I kinda like this sequence with benneh immediately voting Newcomb after katze's sugestion

[Sleep]

Live view of Dolby:

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Csargo (Vanilla Town) has exploded Dolby (Mafia Goon).

lmao

[Sleep]

For Zack's eyes only

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im ngl

that was my exact thought about the opening when i saw it

[Sleep]

i think rask is almost certainly v now

[Sleep]

wow i really wish these claims changed my worldview at all

[Sleep]

I have a ?potentially bad read? that I believe with all of my heart. It's that Benneh/Neb was frozen as heck at end of day in a way that makes him a villager. He flat out said he didn't want to vote Rask at end of day, the wagons became Ladd/Newcomb/Rask, and he voted Rask and talked about having no guts.

My experience with Benneh is that I believe wolf Benneh in a Ladd W/Newcomb V world would have no qualms pushing Newcomb over the top. He even had a post about how fun would it be if we flipped v newcomb.

I believe wolf Benneh in a Rask W world would not go back on his ?don't want to vote Rask? comment so quickly with a villager wagon available.

I believe wolf Benneh in a Ladd W/Newcomb W world would not be talking about not wanting to kill Cuth/Ender/Rask (who all would be villagers here) given there weren't many other options outside of wolves.

I believe villager Benneh could easily stare at that end of day, kind of feel all these wagons suck for various reasons, not really want to kill Ladd/Newcomb d1, kinda think others are towny, and just throw his hands up and vote Rask as a safer option.

?Wolf Benneh would be more pro wolf? is a take that I'm sure some will disagree with but it's what I believe, sorry.

we've reached the stage of the game where im writing too many words that really dont matter and i feel like im wasting my time so instead ill just get me an orange juice and be more reactive rather than proactive for a while

if nothing else its good champs practice!

and fwiw the ben read kind of expresses what i was saying earlier in a much more eloquent way, except that i was looking more at his play over the course of the day rather than eod specifically. it feels like if hes a wolf he hasnt really been trying to get villagers killed.

[Cape90]

i think rask is almost certainly v now

oh...

I think I see the same thing you are seeing