Sufjan 10er [Game Thread]

[Ephemeral]

shouldn't be awake

but not the vig lol

[Sunbae]

Oh come on

[Sunbae]

During the overnight phase I'll start trying to figure it out then.

Games basically Insomnias call at this point. Now how does one say "hey buddy, I know I've incessantly tunneled you but uh, be sure to kill the other two people and trust me plz n thanks"? Asking for a friend

[Sunbae]

smh I really liked my Insomnia case as well

Can I get partial "well PRs are wolfy" credit?

[Ephemeral]

i'll just call it by figuring out which of visor's or sunbae's posts I hate the most when they decided to make the mechanically suboptimal play :wowee:

[Ephemeral]

i'd like for it to be nl just so i can continue the trend of having spot on initial calls only to let myself be dissuaded by people i trust

[Sunbae]

what if we triangle vote and have insomnia pick twice so we dont have to do anything and just keeep chatting

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just kidding

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unless?

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but nah

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or maybe?

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[Sunbae]

i'd like for it to be nl just so i can continue the trend of having spot on initial calls only to let myself be dissuaded by people i trust

I think the only person I really dissuaded was Visor about Mischief. Unless that's not talking to me in which case yeah em good

[Sunbae]

I think the only person I really dissuaded was Visor about Mischief. Unless that's not talking to me in which case yeah em good

But I did start to waver at the end so I don't even think I get full marks

[Ephemeral]

I think the only person I really dissuaded was Visor about Mischief. Unless that's not talking to me in which case yeah em good

i mean it wasn't directly but it still counted in my heart smh

[Ephemeral]

what if we triangle vote and have insomnia pick twice so we dont have to do anything and just keeep chatting

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just kidding

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unless?

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but nah

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or maybe?

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i'm all for it tbh

[Ephemeral]

Insomnia,

I acknowledge your claim, but I think you're lying. I will not rocks fall this one though and will play ball because we're in a position to do that and it's mechanically the abc correct move.

Who do you think is a wolf? You're voting Mischief as a placeholder, think voting to save you is a good look, and have stated you're voting there because "the options" are Ender and Mischief and you town read Ender for their play near eod yesterday. If you ignored everything and just said "I'm voting my best wolf read" who would it be and why?


Vote: Ender

I don't have a strong reason to wolf read here but I have strong reasons to villa read everyone else. I think this is most likely a villager and it's Insomnia, especially after the claim, but if Insomnia is the vig then I think it has to be here. If it is the answer, I guess the early poking votes between Lan/Ender ("wolfiest slot so far" early) and the "I might vote you at eod" but never doing so was just distancing, but it's a very weird end of day by Lan to defend Insomnia hard/not defend Ender and being so hectic on Ephem. I can't say I really understand it if so.

As for Mischief, I think the reasons to wolf read there are just kind of not good. I think it's the product of momentum in the sense that it was an early wolf read that's just kind of stuck with people. You had the early "abe simpson" thing which I think can be explained by it being a new site, the push on Visor early which I think was weird for people on the outside but makes sense if you think Mischief believes Visor has better meta on him (I also think pushes of "this person should know me better than to think I'm being wolfy" are just kinda towny in general?), and the way Mischief grumbled about it once multiple people told him that's unreasonable also makes sense. So you had a first half of day 1 where people just kinda locked in "yeah thats weird" in the back of their mind and went about their day and now that there's one wolf left it's "well maybe it's the weird thing I remember". I don't think the lack of interaction with Lan is wolfy despite multiple others thinking so. The way the day played out I think they just *have* to do something if paired together. I don't think "you didn't explain in detail why my interactions look bad" is a reasonable case (I'm a bit miffed that this was said while ignoring my effort to showcase it). I just think from my experience that this is a villager being piled on today for things that aren't wolfy because the answer is obvious and we're trying to poke around in worlds in which it's not.

by the gods only to vote him at the last second

[Ephemeral]

nl was mumbling something similar about making the correct play before his fuck the claims post

lol

society

[Sunbae]

In my defense, I didn't believe him.

[Visor]

nl was mumbling something similar about making the correct play before his fuck the claims post

lol

society

yea lol

god i was just.... super not convinced that ender actually flipped wolf to the point i felt actively bad about killing him

i felt so bad that i was willing to punt the game away apparently lol

[Ephemeral]

strongly tempted to call sunbae the worse looking of the two on that alone simply because I feel like for sunbae the whole rocks fall thing would hold more significance and v!him would be far more hesitant to do the gamble all over again

but that's probably assuming quite a bit about how much emotional attachment sunbae still has to that decision

[Visor]

>me in every other game

trust the process, believe the claim

>me in this game

fuck all yall YOLO

[Sunbae]

strongly tempted to call sunbae the worse looking of the two on that alone simply because I feel like for sunbae the whole rocks fall thing would hold more significance and v!him would be far more hesitant to do the gamble all over again

but that's probably assuming quite a bit about how much emotional attachment sunbae still has to that decision

To be clear, when I said a rocks fall situation that is talking about counterclaiming because I think they are lying. Which I did not do despite wanting to. I have, in fact, kept that game in mind and was, in fact, hesitant to do the gamble all over again.

[Sunbae]

I didn't just chop lissa. I saw lissa claim angel and said no way I don't believe you I am the angel.

[Visor]

i think if ender was someone i wast really villa reading, or if raskol also thought he was a wolf, i wouldve just gone along with it

but i didnt really think he flipped wolf and raskol didnt either and i trusted raskols read on him too, so i was super conflicted about what to do that eod

in hindsight its all villas lmao

but i couldnt kill mischief cause sunbae was convinced (correctly) he was a villager, and i believed in his read enough, i couldnt kill insomnia because of the ivig claim and i couldnt kill ender because i didnt think he flipped wolf

idk. just felt bad all round lol

[Visor]

it definitely wasnt good play, and i probably shouldve articulated my distress at the situation so something couldve been done

my bad

[Sunbae]

i think if ender was someone i wast really villa reading, or if raskol also thought he was a wolf, i wouldve just gone along with it

but i didnt really think he flipped wolf and raskol didnt either and i trusted raskols read on him too, so i was super conflicted about what to do that eod

in hindsight its all villas lmao

but i couldnt kill mischief cause sunbae was convinced (correctly) he was a villager, and i believed in his read enough, i couldnt kill insomnia because of the ivig claim and i couldnt kill ender because i didnt think he flipped wolf

idk. just felt bad all round lol

I think at one point I posted about how Im voting ender, have no reason to do so, but I legally can't vote Insomnia and everyone else is more solidly towny

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but then i learned i can in fact legally vote insomnia

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they can't prevent you from doing so

[Sunbae]

btw, im not kidding about triangle strategy

[Sunbae]

out til overnight, based on previous game days might not get to talk to some of you again til post game so gg was fun

[Visor]

out til overnight, based on previous game days might not get to talk to some of you again til post game so gg was fun

glgl, pleasure as always

[Ephemeral]

Vote: Sunbae

my mind is here, based on admittedly very little and barely processed info with a side dish of assumptions about sunbae's inner workings

the actual rereading should prob happen tomorrow

at the end of the day i'm just glad i'm not insom having to make a call like this lol

[Visor]

impo, insomnia should pick twice, as long as i am neither of those picks

:)

[Ephemeral]

it definitely wasnt good play, and i probably shouldve articulated my distress at the situation so something couldve been done

my bad

i'm def not free from blame for being MIA 90% of the time, esp at eods to do anything about... anything that matters really

but so it goes

[Visor]

Vote: Sunbae

my mind is here, based on admittedly very little and barely processed info with a side dish of assumptions about sunbae's inner workings

the actual rereading should prob happen tomorrow

at the end of the day i'm just glad i'm not insom having to make a call like this lol

lol amen

it is so freeing to not have the one making the end decision

i dont envy insom lmao

[Sunbae]

gosh that is a super niche meme but the one person is gonna love it