Sufjan 10er [Game Thread]

[Sunbae]

During the overnight phase I'll start trying to figure it out then.

Games basically Insomnias call at this point. Now how does one say "hey buddy, I know I've incessantly tunneled you but uh, be sure to kill the other two people and trust me plz n thanks"? Asking for a friend

bump, friend still asking

[insomnia]

bump, friend still asking

Sorry bronana it?s not even about you casing me, it?s about voting me when i feel like everyone was confused whether i was the vigi or vanillager faking it

I guess if you are a villager you are confused if im the last wolf but you don?t have to worry about it, that?s vigi?s problem and if im the last wolf i never win

You can case someone but voting them when they claim vigi, putting them in a tie??

Eph, why does visor look worse than sunbae here iyo? They have both voted, but sunbae?s vote had a chance to turn the tides when wolves have to deal with a potentially very tough question going into the night: ?do i bite the bait and shoot insomnia who?s a misvote opportunity??

If i flip vanillager, they take almost no heat cuz they were correct in thinking i wasn?t vig and everyone thought it was me

If i flip vigi, the wolf has the F3 target lined up in visor / sunbae, they aren?t alone making the pro-wolf suboptimal play

[insomnia]

Im hopeful i will have like 4 hours to stay in thread later, maybe 3 more likely

In the meantime you really have to talk it out, yesterday was a content drought (at least when i was viewing the thread)

I think if you are a villager it’s important to realize your solve still matters. I am a big believer in sheeping the villa that might take the fall in f4

And idk how good it is for us that I make the decision and you all just wait for it - if i have time to read, not having to lead and watching you solve rn + me back reading is gonna get me closer to a confident decision. But it we don’t get it right today, it’s very important the villager taking the fall makes a case both for a wolf read and town read.

To put it all into perspective, I am Brad Pitt in Moneyball, I want my players to be on base scene. Old scout full of wisdom says “Seriously guys, I think we have to remember: this is the man. He answers to no one except ownership…and God…and he doesn’t have to answer to us. We make suggestions, he makes decisions”

I am Brad Pitt, ain’t nothing personal, I was picked to be Brad Pitt, if you guys would rand vigi you’d be Brad Pitt.

[Ephemeral]

Sorry bronana it?s not even about you casing me, it?s about voting me when i feel like everyone was confused whether i was the vigi or vanillager faking it

I guess if you are a villager you are confused if im the last wolf but you don?t have to worry about it, that?s vigi?s problem and if im the last wolf i never win

You can case someone but voting them when they claim vigi, putting them in a tie??

Eph, why does visor look worse than sunbae here iyo? They have both voted, but sunbae?s vote had a chance to turn the tides when wolves have to deal with a potentially very tough question going into the night: ?do i bite the bait and shoot insomnia who?s a misvote opportunity??

If i flip vanillager, they take almost no heat cuz they were correct in thinking i wasn?t vig and everyone thought it was me

If i flip vigi, the wolf has the F3 target lined up in visor / sunbae, they aren?t alone making the pro-wolf suboptimal play

Frankly it was simply a matter of heart vs mind

Up till last eod I pretty much consistently villa read sunbae's posting and couldn't get myself on board with nl's as much in the grand scheme of things

And if I'm going to be fully honest there's also quite a bit of bias that's been pushing me in that direction, I feel like i have a bit of a personal obligation to read nl properly because we share quite a few similarities as ww players(it's the same thing that pushed me to get quickly better than average at reading manti lol) so it leans towards being a pride thing quite a bit

Even though I don't have prior experience with nl's wolf game I have villaged with him several times and iirc, found him pretty easily back then so not having the same experience here is making me

There are several issues with this line of thinking obviously, because it could very easily just be a me problem not being on the ball and getting stuck on irrelevant nonsense

and I suppose that's what I'm going to try to find out today lol

[Visor]

well, whats the irrelevant nonsense u r getting stuck on

i will admit this is definitely an atypical game from me, partially spurred on from the deadlines

i havent been able to play the way i want to

ive been able to find you sometimes too, but i feel like you would agree that its gonna be hard for me to get tehre on you with not enough sticking out + short phases + low posts

[Ephemeral]

well, whats the irrelevant nonsense u r getting stuck on

i will admit this is definitely an atypical game from me, partially spurred on from the deadlines

i havent been able to play the way i want to

ive been able to find you sometimes too, but i feel like you would agree that its gonna be hard for me to get tehre on you with not enough sticking out + short phases + low posts

ya I get where you're coming from, having less time and content to digest makes it much harder for me to get anywhere solid too

said irrelevant nonsense would primarily be what I described in that post about me having a bit too much personal pride tied to not getting you wrong and comparing the times I was able to find you more easily

like it's easy for me to go "yeah that's prob dumb" on a logical level but the grip is still there emotionally I guess

[Visor]

Well I hope to see some solving from you when I wake up I guess

[Ephemeral]

Well I hope to see some solving from you when I wake up I guess

splendid timing bronana

[Ephemeral]

@insomnia can you give me some bullet points on why you're thinking sunbae over visor overall? I see your point about last eod but I'm looking for something that's more "big picture" oriented

right now the only hard point I can see myself giving in nl's favor is probably his interactions with lantana, I can definitely see v!him responding that way and I'm not surprised he'd come out of it with a villa read on the slot either

on the other hand sunbae's side of interactions doesn't stand out either way, they do back and forth a little bit but i don't see anything that points towards them not being aligned