Sufjan 10er [Game Thread]

[Sunbae]

During the overnight phase I'll start trying to figure it out then.

Games basically Insomnias call at this point. Now how does one say "hey buddy, I know I've incessantly tunneled you but uh, be sure to kill the other two people and trust me plz n thanks"? Asking for a friend

bump, friend still asking

[Ephemeral]

gosh that is a super niche meme but the one person is gonna love it

now i'm curious and want an ELI5 of the meme

[Sunbae]

glgl, pleasure as always

It's been really fun. Glad you got to play instead of host this time.

[Sunbae]

Its from a game called "Triangle Strategy" and the gist is the 4 people are all allied but the three on the bottom keep trying to go in three different directions and the person on top has to make the ultimate decisions (player character)

games S tier fwiw, tactics style combat and incredible story

[Ephemeral]

checks steam

realizes it's not on steam and goes to google

cue burst of anger after seeing it's a Switch exclusive

insert long rant about how everything should be on PC

mfw

[Ephemeral]

lol amen

it is so freeing to not have the one making the end decision

i dont envy insom lmao

lets just all collectively laugh at insom for getting the short end of the stick while we meme

this is meant as an addendum to sunbae's proposal and i find absolutely no flaws with it, moral or otherwise

[Visor]

checks steam

realizes it's not on steam and goes to google

cue burst of anger after seeing it's a Switch exclusive

insert long rant about how everything should be on PC

mfw

pc goat

[Ephemeral]

fuck it i dont care about vig claims

Vote: insomnia

this is a brilliant chaotic evil post for the alignment chart

it further fuels my hearts desire for nl to be the last wolf

[Visor]

this is a brilliant chaotic evil post for the alignment chart

it further fuels my hearts desire for nl to be the last wolf

[Ephemeral]

pc goat

i agree and definitely not because I simply can't afford to invest in several consoles even though I only care about 2 or 3 games for each of them

[Ephemeral]

alright i need to haul ass to bed

sleep schedule ruined again in an utterly unsurprising turn of events

see y'all tomorrow

[Ephemeral]

oh and also

Vote: Visor

[Visor]

oh and also

Vote: Visor

[insomnia]

Im holding the hc

[insomnia]

Gj on selling it?s not me though, i was p confident i was gonna live

I was hoping it?s not the hard game cuz this week?s been hell, i only had 1 hour or so of night reading to go with the n1 shot, this rand was brutal

I wanted to be chillin like a villain

[insomnia]

I think the last wolf is always in visor / sunbae, leaning sunbae

I ahot ender to clear out the PoE and in case i died i wouldn?t have made a bad shot in sunbae / visor / eph and village would just turn on ender, altho i was kinda feeling like the wolf was there

Sunbae looks the worst for being the last vote on me. From wolves? PoV having to figure out at night if im the vigi or a vanillager faking it is hell - a vote when 2 other people are doing it is the perfect opportunity to get rid of the potential vig and if im the vanillager then you?re not gonna get that much heat. Imo wolves didn?t want to have to figure me out at night

If it?s eph, then i take no blame

Hipefully im gonna have time today to read in depth to make a final decision, but these are just my gth thoughts

[Visor]

ender fine shot, i cant blame you for making it tbh

im surprised you read eph higher than me i think my interactions with lantana are super not partnery but ymmv

[insomnia]

I pretty much can never clear sunbae here and he’s my vote aorn - if he’s the villager i would like to have him solve with me for the day (well i can only think about things like 10-12 hours from now, busy af)

[Visor]

" Imo wolves didn?t want to have to figure me out at night"

i very much understand your pov on this and dont think theres much wrong with it

just as a villager who made a really bad decision, i did it because i felt really bad about the other options (obv cause i was misclearing one of eph/sbae)

and i was trapped in my own cycle of not wanting to kill out of that, but also not wanting to kill in it

and i shouldve stepped back acknowledged my issues instead of just shitting the bed

[insomnia]

ender fine shot, i cant blame you for making it tbh

im surprised you read eph higher than me i think my interactions with lantana are super not partnery but ymmv

Well tbh it’s more of a RETALIATORY PoE, like i said i really had not that much time - i had time to make some reads D1 and my few hours were enough to make the n1 shot, d2 was a mess, no time to re-read and from the time i claimed to T-4 eod or smth nobody said anything

Unlucky all around for me but i think i’ve done the absolute best i could have with my hand, plus i had some help from THE TEAM

Which way are you leaning? What is your sunbae read, in depth?

[Visor]

Well tbh it’s more of a RETALIATORY PoE, like i said i really had not that much time - i had time to make some reads D1 and my few hours were enough to make the n1 shot, d2 was a mess, no time to re-read and from the time i claimed to T-4 eod or smth nobody said anything

Unlucky all around for me but i think i’ve done the absolute best i could have with my hand, plus i had some help from THE TEAM

Which way are you leaning? What is your sunbae read, in depth?

lol i undertand the retaliatory poe dw

im currently dodging work rn, so i don't have an answer for you right now, but i will have something for you in a few hours

its really hard for me to parse how different both players are

honestly, if sunbae is a wolf its the first time in a while ive been genuinely fooled in an earlier phase and not just making a bad reach read

but i also struggle with ephs play in that its hard to make reads based on there and im really reaching

[Visor]

i know thats a lot of words to say I DONT KNOW LOL

but i will have an answer one way or another for you tonight

[Visor]

if you really really really really had to put a gun to my head


maybe id pick eph idk.

gimme some time

[insomnia]

bump, friend still asking

Sorry bronana it?s not even about you casing me, it?s about voting me when i feel like everyone was confused whether i was the vigi or vanillager faking it

I guess if you are a villager you are confused if im the last wolf but you don?t have to worry about it, that?s vigi?s problem and if im the last wolf i never win

You can case someone but voting them when they claim vigi, putting them in a tie??

Eph, why does visor look worse than sunbae here iyo? They have both voted, but sunbae?s vote had a chance to turn the tides when wolves have to deal with a potentially very tough question going into the night: ?do i bite the bait and shoot insomnia who?s a misvote opportunity??

If i flip vanillager, they take almost no heat cuz they were correct in thinking i wasn?t vig and everyone thought it was me

If i flip vigi, the wolf has the F3 target lined up in visor / sunbae, they aren?t alone making the pro-wolf suboptimal play

[insomnia]

Im hopeful i will have like 4 hours to stay in thread later, maybe 3 more likely

In the meantime you really have to talk it out, yesterday was a content drought (at least when i was viewing the thread)

I think if you are a villager it’s important to realize your solve still matters. I am a big believer in sheeping the villa that might take the fall in f4

And idk how good it is for us that I make the decision and you all just wait for it - if i have time to read, not having to lead and watching you solve rn + me back reading is gonna get me closer to a confident decision. But it we don’t get it right today, it’s very important the villager taking the fall makes a case both for a wolf read and town read.

To put it all into perspective, I am Brad Pitt in Moneyball, I want my players to be on base scene. Old scout full of wisdom says “Seriously guys, I think we have to remember: this is the man. He answers to no one except ownership…and God…and he doesn’t have to answer to us. We make suggestions, he makes decisions”

I am Brad Pitt, ain’t nothing personal, I was picked to be Brad Pitt, if you guys would rand vigi you’d be Brad Pitt.

[Sunbae]

I pretty much can never clear sunbae here and he’s my vote aorn - if he’s the villager i would like to have him solve with me for the day (well i can only think about things like 10-12 hours from now, busy af)

I think I can be cleared, I just don't think you can clear me. I don't mean that as a negative, slight, or anything. I think it just requires more experience with me than you have and more knowledge of previous games that you weren't a part of. It's on me. I pushed you for two straight days and just didn't believe you. It happens, don't sweat it. At this point I think it's pretty clear that I am going to die, that I have realized that I am going to die ("asking for a friend"), and I think talking about my alignment is a waste of our time. I'm going to spend some time this night phase figuring out which of Ephem/Visor I think it is, make my vote, and try to lay out exactly why I think it's them.

[Sunbae]

if you really really really really had to put a gun to my head


maybe id pick eph idk.

gimme some time

It's pretty tough for me, right? I now know that the answer is in how Lan treated you and Ephem. Clearly they had no issues pushing a teammate a bit - shouldn't be surprised given how they seemed like they were used to high activity games - but I have to decide is it the one Villa Read and then Wolf Read based on Katze-said meta or if it's the one pushed near eod to go over.

If it's Ephem I have to answer the question "If the other wagons are Insomnia v, Ender v, and Taffy v, why did Lan start bussing?". That's the key for me and if I can solve that problem I'll feel much better about it. If I can't solve that question then I'll have to give a resigned "dammit visor".

I'll also probably try and view the game through both lenses and see what the wolf team was doing on day 1 in each case.

[insomnia]

It was my impression that Lantana never really confidently called out anyone except for Visor but it was for the weird meta thing.

Now I wonder if they?ve manufactured that push to make visor look good - rationale being they shy?d away from pushing many villas until EoD, so the person they push with more #heat is more likely to be their partner cuz they wanna clear them and aren?t scared if they get sus?d for it obviously+ it was early af which gives them plenty time to change their mind

[Visor]

It was my impression that Lantana never really confidently called out anyone except for Visor but it was for the weird meta thing.

Now I wonder if they?ve manufactured that push to make visor look good - rationale being they shy?d away from pushing many villas until EoD, so the person they push with more #heat is more likely to be their partner cuz they wanna clear them and aren?t scared if they get sus?d for it obviously+ it was early af which gives them plenty time to change their mind

they also called me socially awkward lmao

[Visor]

It was my impression that Lantana never really confidently called out anyone except for Visor but it was for the weird meta thing.

Now I wonder if they?ve manufactured that push to make visor look good - rationale being they shy?d away from pushing many villas until EoD, so the person they push with more #heat is more likely to be their partner cuz they wanna clear them and aren?t scared if they get sus?d for it obviously+ it was early af which gives them plenty time to change their mind

if you fall into this trap of thinking im gonna actually be disappointed lmao

fmpov i think we are clearly not partnered, i get your pov tho i guess