Casual 9er Game Thread

[Hally]

Hally, can you break down in a singular post the reasons you villa read Neb/Zack for me? I know the initial reads were from some mindmelding a couple hours into the game but how has stuff progressed?

it hasn’t really progressed, i just think they’re both posting fine and posting things i like so i don’t feel like touching them today when there’s other people i think are wolfier

[Sunbae]

it hasn’t really progressed, i just think they’re both posting fine and posting things i like so i don’t feel like touching them today when there’s other people i think are wolfier

gth is vulgard a wolf?

[Hally]

friends, vul posted a bunch of word vomit about the gamestate and possible associations then tacked on a lazy ender vote for “not doing anything”

then ender responded with a pretty staunch defense and vul immediately backed off and decided to switch to voting me because ender (the person he was just wolf reading) told him he was wrong to rule out me/sunbae as the team, which somehow made me the “best gamestate vote”

why is he a villager?

[Hally]

the only thing i can say in vul’s defense is that i’m still not sure he would be posting this terribly as a wolf lol

but his vote on me is just awful and i can’t let it stand

[Raskolnikov]

why? what was wrong with them at the time we made them?

same as it did before

not touching you/zack/sunbae today

i think i like ender more than not i think

monty i still like his entry but lol one posting

still processing rask?s push on me

barto i don?t care for

vul voting me for ?best gamestate? after posting a bunch of words that say nothing about people?s posts is dogshit

let me dig what you posted just after Monty did his true one read post:

huh?

i missed where barto said he was roleplaying and thought he was just posting weird lol

but if it?s a roleplay it?s whatever i guess

monty, why is roleplaying bad wolfy? idgi

is this a meta read? as in you think bart specifically would have trouble doing that as a wolf?

i?m kinda ??? at you wolf reading barto for that because it doesn?t seem AI?

i also don?t get how you?re jumping to the sunbae and zack pairings based on what seems like a very thin read on page 1

but maybe it?s villagery eagerness? idk lol

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so like, what did you like already?

[Hally]

Well, it appears that after you add six posts to the quote queue this forum forces me to reply, which is fine.

Because I wanted to test sunbae's reaction? Do we have anything better than that to go on?

But you're still shitposting?

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Wasn't I the first to vote for this Raskolnikov person?

meanwhile barto is posting stuff like this lol

[Zack]

sticking on vul, could also go for a Barto cfd

not feeling a hally lunch

[Zack]

meanwhile barto is posting stuff like this lol

he's been asked about that post how many times and still hasn't given an answer that makes any sense lol

[nebjiamn]

I think my concern of hally/vulgard can be put to bed after this latest stint. Think Vulgard's posts towards Hally and the response of calling said posts dogshit are not how I recall wolf hally interacting with partners (either moon nor lan from the one game nor esooa from the org game).

Neb, can we take a few minutes to try and pow wow about Hally here? I'm gonna have to make my call somewhat quickly. I had briefly mentioned my thoughts on "woof mindset" settling into their perspective but to flesh that out a bit more I thought Hally pushing me out of the gate and then turning around and calling me villagery for pushing "strong players" was another example of this where I considered Hally thinking "oh i'll push sunbae and itll be villagery cause what wolf would do that" and then having that frame of mind slip through in the reverse when it became clear that I was going to kick and scream about it/be difficult. It's popped up again with the "rask wouldn't push the top poster" mindset here, but I'm wondering if this track holds water.

I admit to being a bit uncertain after this last stint because along with their posting towards Vulgard I also detect some real sounding frustration. Might be just "caught for bad reasons" but it's enough for me to try and get some other heads in on the topic. You've seemed to waver back and forth on Hallyv and Hallyw throughout the day so where's your head at currently?

i think i've been really good with all of hally's posting up until the recent unaligned with you thing. the only thing giving me doubts (and im not sure if this has seeped in thru my posting or not?) through the day has been several people, including you, pushing there to the point where its obviously not just wolves so i wonder what the villagers whoa re posting those things are seeing that i'm not because i feel obligated to factor in their thought processes

but i think your view on hally's turnaround is a bit... simplistic? its not cause you were pushing *strong players*, afaict, it was because you were wading into heavy waters when a clear path over a bridge was available and there was doubt on why you would choose that path as a wolf since it only serves to make yours and your partners d1 harder if wolf

ignoring the whole part about WIFOMing because that is actually what ended up clearing you, but c'est la vie and all, but i think if you look at it from that lens you can maybe see my perspective on it in that hally (and me and zack) are not interested in pushing you any longer because its just holistically not a great play.

[Raskolnikov]

rofl

[Hally]

let me dig what you posted just after Monty did his true one read post:












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so like, what did you like already?

read the last line of the last post

i came around to it maybe being villagery that monty came right out of the gate with a confident wolf read on barto and immediately preflipped him wolf to solve for his teammate

just seemed like something a villager was more likely to enter with but i mean, he hasn’t posted anything else so lol

[Sunbae]

Think I'm currently here:

- Ender is probably a villager. I squinted at the insinuation of iso'ing a past game of mine on d1 in a casual 9er that otherwise has been laid back and jokey from them, but for the most part I've thought they were fine and agendaless.

- I don't think Hally works with Vulgard, Barto, or Rask due to Hally's interactions with them. If Hally is a wolf I also don't think it's Mont due to the insistence that the Hally/Me/Neb/Zack group is all villagers. I think wolf Hally would love to have some shade among that group if it were so. Which means I think if Hally is a wolf the other is either Neb or Zack.

- I do think Neb/Zack have w/w equity but I'm not so sure this game day plays out this way on the back end if so. Outside of the initial spurt, I don't see them really coordinating thread position in a way that puts them in good positions later. They aren't trying to distance any after I called it out as possible, they aren't building each other up afterwards, they aren't taking opposite stances on things, and not trying to stoke flames that I can tell. So I think I want to back burner this pair for a bit.

- If Hally's assessment of me/hally/neb/zack town is accurate, I think the only world Rask makes sense as a wolf is with Vulgard (coming in hard because the counterwagon is the teammate). If it's not vulgard, I think rask doesn't come into that game state of villagers fighting and just make themselves so vocal to pile on.

Does anyone have significant issues with any of this?

[El Barto]

See, my thing with not knowing what to do about the Barto post is this:

If you didn't know that post about Hally was a copypasta mocking Rick and Morty fans, and you thought that I was saying that stuff with any semblance of sincerity, then I think voting me is well within your right - nay, your duty - because it's awful

I am not familiar with this particular bit of copied pasta, no.

I'm over the age of 25 so things the kids do sometimes confuse me.

friends, vul posted a bunch of word vomit about the gamestate and possible associations then tacked on a lazy ender vote for ?not doing anything?

then ender responded with a pretty staunch defense and vul immediately backed off and decided to switch to voting me because ender (the person he was just wolf reading) told him he was wrong to rule out me/sunbae as the team, which somehow made me the ?best gamestate vote?

why is he a villager?

Hmmm, currently it's 3-3 between you and Vulgard.

Obviously your voting for him and his voting your you can explain each other. You're pushing him, which is fine, because at least you're voting him based on some of his behaviour.

So:
1) Where *is* Montmorency?
2) Why was EnderWiggin cluttering up the thread with this thing that they call shitposting?
3) Why is nebjiamn refusing to cast a vote? Sunbae I still do not trust, but nebjiamn is just refusing to expose himself as voting for either of these (checks mafiawiki.org again) ?waggons?. Maybe he'll swoop in at the last minute, especially if he's equipped with a cellular telephone so that bodily functions shall not impede him in such an attempt, but, well, who knows. Do I qualify as this ?LHF??

Sunbae will not be lynched today, so vote:nebjiamn just to make a point.

[Hally]

Think I'm currently here:

- Ender is probably a villager. I squinted at the insinuation of iso'ing a past game of mine on d1 in a casual 9er that otherwise has been laid back and jokey from them, but for the most part I've thought they were fine and agendaless.

- I don't think Hally works with Vulgard, Barto, or Rask due to Hally's interactions with them. If Hally is a wolf I also don't think it's Mont due to the insistence that the Hally/Me/Neb/Zack group is all villagers. I think wolf Hally would love to have some shade among that group if it were so. Which means I think if Hally is a wolf the other is either Neb or Zack.

- I do think Neb/Zack have w/w equity but I'm not so sure this game day plays out this way on the back end if so. Outside of the initial spurt, I don't see them really coordinating thread position in a way that puts them in good positions later. They aren't trying to distance any after I called it out as possible, they aren't building each other up afterwards, they aren't taking opposite stances on things, and not trying to stoke flames that I can tell. So I think I want to back burner this pair for a bit.

- If Hally's assessment of me/hally/neb/zack town is accurate, I think the only world Rask makes sense as a wolf is with Vulgard (coming in hard because the counterwagon is the teammate). If it's not vulgard, I think rask doesn't come into that game state of villagers fighting and just make themselves so vocal to pile on.

Does anyone have significant issues with any of this?

not really

[nebjiamn]

i'm voting you barto

[Zack]

Monty didn't really post until EOD in the sorc game earlier this year fwiw

[Sunbae]

i think i've been really good with all of hally's posting up until the recent unaligned with you thing. the only thing giving me doubts (and im not sure if this has seeped in thru my posting or not?) through the day has been several people, including you, pushing there to the point where its obviously not just wolves so i wonder what the villagers whoa re posting those things are seeing that i'm not because i feel obligated to factor in their thought processes

but i think your view on hally's turnaround is a bit... simplistic? its not cause you were pushing *strong players*, afaict, it was because you were wading into heavy waters when a clear path over a bridge was available and there was doubt on why you would choose that path as a wolf since it only serves to make yours and your partners d1 harder if wolf

ignoring the whole part about WIFOMing because that is actually what ended up clearing you, but c'est la vie and all, but i think if you look at it from that lens you can maybe see my perspective on it in that hally (and me and zack) are not interested in pushing you any longer because its just holistically not a great play.

My understanding then is that the three of you are basically at "i don't agree with his takes on the game but we think he's a villager for the way he's gone about everything"

[Hally]

barto water r u doin pal

[Zack]

Does anyone have significant issues with any of this?

i'm voting you barto

[nebjiamn]

My understanding then is that the three of you are basically at "i don't agree with his takes on the game but we think he's a villager for the way he's gone about everything"

my brain's too foggy atm to confirm the "i dont agree with his takes" part but the gist of it sounds about right

i think your most recent post on gamestate good and i agree with it

[Raskolnikov]

Think I'm currently here:

- Ender is probably a villager. I squinted at the insinuation of iso'ing a past game of mine on d1 in a casual 9er that otherwise has been laid back and jokey from them, but for the most part I've thought they were fine and agendaless.

- I don't think Hally works with Vulgard, Barto, or Rask due to Hally's interactions with them. If Hally is a wolf I also don't think it's Mont due to the insistence that the Hally/Me/Neb/Zack group is all villagers. I think wolf Hally would love to have some shade among that group if it were so. Which means I think if Hally is a wolf the other is either Neb or Zack.

- I do think Neb/Zack have w/w equity but I'm not so sure this game day plays out this way on the back end if so. Outside of the initial spurt, I don't see them really coordinating thread position in a way that puts them in good positions later. They aren't trying to distance any after I called it out as possible, they aren't building each other up afterwards, they aren't taking opposite stances on things, and not trying to stoke flames that I can tell. So I think I want to back burner this pair for a bit.

- If Hally's assessment of me/hally/neb/zack town is accurate, I think the only world Rask makes sense as a wolf is with Vulgard (coming in hard because the counterwagon is the teammate). If it's not vulgard, I think rask doesn't come into that game state of villagers fighting and just make themselves so vocal to pile on.

Does anyone have significant issues with any of this?

I am Hally's partner

[Sunbae]

That line about "its obviously not just wolves so i wonder what the villagers who are posting those things are seeing" kinda snapped me back to earth a bit regarding the three of you

[Hally]

sunbae, what do you think of zack and benneh independent of a possible association between them?

[Sunbae]

Rask if you're Hally's partner I'll just nod my head and say nice theater

[Zack]

thought ender came off pretty well in the back and forth with vul. vulgard seemed awkward and like he didn't really know how to deal with it

[Hally]

friends, vul posted a bunch of word vomit about the gamestate and possible associations then tacked on a lazy ender vote for “not doing anything”

then ender responded with a pretty staunch defense and vul immediately backed off and decided to switch to voting me because ender (the person he was just wolf reading) told him he was wrong to rule out me/sunbae as the team, which somehow made me the “best gamestate vote”

why is he a villager?

anyone have thoughts on this?

[Zack]

if hally is villa and vulgard is a wolf imma spank rask until he says uncle

[Hally]

thought ender came off pretty well in the back and forth with vul. vulgard seemed awkward and like he didn't really know how to deal with it

agreed on both counts

[Zack]

anyone have thoughts on this?

I agree with you

his posts stinky

[Hally]

if hally is villa and vulgard is a wolf imma spank rask until he says uncle

do you think it’s in his wolf range to push me this hard?