Casual 9er Game Thread

[Sunbae]

re: neb

I usually get my most confident there during eods but 1) that eod didn't really have much going on as it was clear vulgard was going down from what i can tell and 2) i wasnt actually around so any vibe stuff that pops out kinda gets lost in translation. My current take is "could be a wolf, not top couple of suspects" and "if he's a wolf he hasn't tried to like, go out of his way to pocket me even when I was floating ideas of him being a wolf while also not trying to discredit or get me killed". If I try to read the eod from a "neb is a wolf doing XYZ" perspective I think it would have to be in a Hally v world because I didn't get the sense of any concern/urgency (which Hally clearly had so if it was w/w I think their two views of the gamestate weren't really on the same page). I also have this, uh, potentially bad idea in my head that the half ass "meh i think this is wrong but whatcha gonna do" is in this weird middle ground where it's not really attempting to look good for the next day because it's so weakly said and it's not really trying to line anything up for post flip that gets carried over to today? That might be too narrow of a read but it's what came to me and why I asked Neb about that post.

[Hally]

i regret not cfd’ing barto or mont D1 (probably bart) because down the stretch i did get cold feet on vul after my initial wave of “WOLFY VOTE DIE” passed over me but tbh i didn’t want to destabilize vul’s wagon at EoD because i was worried that it would lead to me going over

i wish i had just went for it though because i think vul would have made himself more readable with time and anything would be better than El Barto (0)

[Sunbae]

i regret not cfd’ing barto or mont D1 (probably bart) because down the stretch i did get cold feet on vul after my initial wave of “WOLFY VOTE DIE” passed over me but tbh i didn’t want to destabilize vul’s wagon at EoD because i was worried that it would lead to me going over

i wish i had just went for it though because i think vul would have made himself more readable with time and anything would be better than El Barto (0)

Can you pinpoint when that was? I did not get that vibe reading your eod

[Hally]

Can you pinpoint when that was? I did not get that vibe reading your eod

i kept it out of the thread

tbc i did still think he had a good chance at flipping wolf but by EoD my confidence was less than when i initially voted vul (and tbh i don’t even think my confidence was that high when i voted him but i tried to convince myself of it because i was annoyed at his vote on me and the suspicion on me generally)

but it didn’t seem productive to say i was having #doubts because it didn’t really seem like there was a realistic chance of a cfd and iirc i still had three votes (vul, rask, mont) so i wasn’t comfortable destabilizing vul’s wagon

[Sunbae]

I'm going to take a moment to just flesh out thoughts here:

- There are 7 of us left and I think I can remove quite a few w/w pairings. I don't think Benneh/Hally, Benneh/Zack, Ender/Hally, Ender/Zack, Hally/Barto, Hally/Mont, or Mont/Zack work.

Leaves me with Barto/Benneh, Barto/Ender, Barto/Mont, Barto/Zack, Benneh/Ender, Benneh/Mont, Ender/Mont, Hally/Zack

- Of these pairs, the ones I can see things as "possibly w/w" instead of just "not not w/w" if that makes sense are:

Barto/Benneh: Barto's fixation on Benneh vanity wagon while villagers are going at each other throughout the day + Benneh's calling it out near eod while the clock is winding down.

Barto/Ender: Ender has a few small defenses of Barto in relation to wolf pushes, like while Vulgard is getting wagoned and the thread thinks he's a wolf, saying "don't think vulgard/barto are w/w" as well as adding him to the no blast zone today.

Barto/Mont: The way Mont calls Barto's opening wolfy and but then uses it to try and vote me for Barto's way he talked to me and shade Zack for not catching that Barto is iffy already.

Hally/Zack: The way Hally has shifted from defending Zack to Ender (in relation to Neb) to shading Zack once Neb came in being concerned about Zack too and the way Zack didn't really want to engage me for a bit on Hally early.



- Using peoples posts in isolation, I don't think Ender is a wolf. I don't really thiiiink benneh is one either (talked about that a bit ago). I'm also not really sure I have Hally as a wolf (have talked about this a lot).

I think I want to just call the wolf team Mont/Barto

[Hally]

I'm going to take a moment to just flesh out thoughts here:

- There are 7 of us left and I think I can remove quite a few w/w pairings. I don't think Benneh/Hally, Benneh/Zack, Ender/Hally, Ender/Zack, Hally/Barto, Hally/Mont, or Mont/Zack work.

Leaves me with Barto/Benneh, Barto/Ender, Barto/Mont, Barto/Zack, Benneh/Ender, Benneh/Mont, Ender/Mont, Hally/Zack

- Of these pairs, the ones I can see things as "possibly w/w" instead of just "not not w/w" if that makes sense are:

Barto/Benneh: Barto's fixation on Benneh vanity wagon while villagers are going at each other throughout the day + Benneh's calling it out near eod while the clock is winding down.

Barto/Ender: Ender has a few small defenses of Barto in relation to wolf pushes, like while Vulgard is getting wagoned and the thread thinks he's a wolf, saying "don't think vulgard/barto are w/w" as well as adding him to the no blast zone today.

Barto/Mont: The way Mont calls Barto's opening wolfy and but then uses it to try and vote me for Barto's way he talked to me and shade Zack for not catching that Barto is iffy already.

Hally/Zack: The way Hally has shifted from defending Zack to Ender (in relation to Neb) to shading Zack once Neb came in being concerned about Zack too and the way Zack didn't really want to engage me for a bit on Hally early.



- Using peoples posts in isolation, I don't think Ender is a wolf. I don't really thiiiink benneh is one either (talked about that a bit ago). I'm also not really sure I have Hally as a wolf (have talked about this a lot).

I think I want to just call the wolf team Mont/Barto

i don?t really disagree with ruling out any of the pairs you ruled out sunbae

not sure what that?s worth given half of them include me lol

[Sunbae]

i don?t really disagree with ruling out any of the pairs you ruled out sunbae

not sure what that?s worth given half of them include me lol

Ok, so then why are you concerned that it's just too easy? Like this isn't a big mash or anything. It's a small 9er and these are usually solved just by some combo of POE and worldbuilding.

I could maybe see the argument that the most ABC vote is just barto since I have them in more "actively w/w" pairs but, frankly, I just think that Monty is the wolfiest poster in the game and want to chop there.