Casual 9er Game Thread

[Sunbae]

hally and benneh seem reasonably villagy so far

Barros post where he voted sunbae hit some good tonal markers for him but some of his other posts (and lack of certain things) feels a bit off.

ender and monty - need to see more to have a real opinion, it was fine I guess

sunbae idk if I just gut disliked him calling me/benneh w/w because of my own narcissism, but I don't really care for it. I agree the way he dropped the hally stuff was a little strange.

vulgard is not really saying much of substance and he is using a lot of words to do it

rask ain't here :(

Is the part about me an attempt to tie me/hally together in case Hally flips? Is it just piling on to early suspicion of me? Or is it just a reasonable take at this time cause I know Neb had a similar thought (and hally too if its zack w/hally v)

[Sunbae]

yeah this

(kinda fair point to sunbae wrt vulgard getting treated differently for similar thing but that was specifically a vulgard-specific read that hally was making (specifically))

potentially peacekeeping v/v violence?

[Sunbae]

Ender but it might be bad

mont i think for the way they showed skepticism for bartos post and then tried to take it to the next level about how it relates to other people (me for how barto was talking, you for how you didnt pick up on it). can follow the threads in a way i think shows someone actually thinking from point a to b and how its connected

was past me goat or woat

[Sunbae]

Ender but it might be bad

mont i think for the way they showed skepticism for bartos post and then tried to take it to the next level about how it relates to other people (me for how barto was talking, you for how you didnt pick up on it). can follow the threads in a way i think shows someone actually thinking from point a to b and how its connected

i agree with v reading mont i think, though it’s kinda light

think wolf reading barto and then taking the extra step to look at how he’s interacting with people, while pretty thin in substance, is more likely a over eager villager

wish there was more to go on though

This is literally repeating what I said using slightly different words so the teacher doesn't recognize the plagiarism. Are you trying to pocket me, defend Mont, or are you voting me as a villager while regurgitating my own reads towards me?

[Sunbae]

Zack is wolf :)

Calling out Zack while the thread is blowing each other up with me/vulgard/hally/mont/barto stuff doesn't seem like a very w/w thing to do

[Sunbae]

the sassy "wolfy pop in hehehehe" after the unexplained vote just rustled my jimmies after getting railroaded for no real reason as soon as the game started in the two turbos i played this week after not playing any mafia for months (one of which ended right before your push)

i just want to play more relaxed and not get my bum relentlessly roasted for not tryharding

you normally this trolly as town? it's reminding me of how you played the sorc game

dont think this is a w/w response to enders bringing him up out of nowhere

[Sunbae]

if at first you don't succeed, try try again?

giving me shit for voting hally again

[Sunbae]

My big time big brain thought after seeing Zack, Hally, and Ender all start clearing me in a row is that I was about to be the night kill and they gave up on pushing me (considering I know 100% there is at least 1 wolf in that group) only for Rask to come in and do something to jump over me.

[Sunbae]

sbpcbwwe

is this a cheeky post as hally is wolf posting as top poster?

[Hally]

This is literally repeating what I said using slightly different words so the teacher doesn't recognize the plagiarism. Are you trying to pocket me, defend Mont, or are you voting me as a villager while regurgitating my own reads towards me?

(not actually here but just ftr, i had the read before you said it

what i said in my post is what i meant by “maybe it’s villagery eagerness”)

[Zack]

Strike everything I said that could be construed as suspicious from the record. never happened.

evaluate me only on what remains and you will find the truth

[Hally]

in p#63 i mean

[Sunbae]

Yeah okay legit Sunbae is my strongest town and you can vote them off over my dead body.

So the timing of this is:

pretty much nothing about me while I'm getting railroaded -> zack + hally call me a villager for being stubborn/on my own track -> Ender says he agrees -> later vulgard votes Ender saying he can do better -> Ender gets annoyed by this and iso's me to clear me and calls me the strongest town

If ender is a wolf I would be shocked if I wasn't planned on being killed here with how this played out (rask has barely posted at this point)

The question is, if so then why? Because I was villa reading Ender. Was it just trying to pocket me? I wasn't poking towards him, monty, or zack at this point so idk why a pair of those would basically write me off there. It'd have to be Ender/Hally?

I think if I hold this thought as we progress, then the only wolf team Ender works for is Ender/Hally. Which means if I can rid myself of that one I can clear ender. If I can clear ender I just need to find one pair that doesnt work in Mont/Hally/Zack and vote the common link.

[Sunbae]

(not actually here but just ftr, i had the read before you said it

what i said in my post is what i meant by “maybe it’s villagery eagerness”)

gotcha

[Hally]

gonna be sad if sunbae is a villager, rereads the game, sees all the posts he didn’t like before and confbiases himself into me being a wolf again

reading woat

[Sunbae]

i think the way you came out defending yourself as not aligned with sunbae is v wolfy fwiw hally and why i gutvoted you here

i feel like its something i've seen wolves do a lot recently wherein they defend their inability to be w/w with someone rather than their inability to be wolf

ive obviously seen villagers do this too but just thinking from my own experience its tended to be when i've been unsure or wolf reading the person because the absurdity of me pairing with a person bumps up against them, in my mind, likely to be flipping wolf and me being associted with them after

but you v read sunbae hard rn from what it seems so it ticked all the boxes for me

[Hally]

alright i swear i’m gonna stop being a degenerate and go to sleep now

tomorrow i’ll knock all your socks off with my immense villageriness (maybe)

gn

[Hally]

benneh died saying to leave me alone

checkm8 atheists

[Sunbae]

it wasn?t unprompted, it was because zack was tilted and i didn?t want to tilt him more by keeping my vote when it wasn?t serious to begin with

Is it a bad read if I say "Either Zack was really tilted and Hally wouldn't have piled on the way they did or Zack wasn't really tiled and Hally wouldn't have thought of this defense" if they were w/w?

[Sunbae]

I literally said I'm showing my work because people think I can be a wolf and that none of these are conclusions yet, don't fret about the confbias yet

[Sunbae]

honestly don?t think i have ever been voted for such dumb reasons

this is not a defense or AtE or anything, i?m just sitting here trying to parse whether vul and rask can actually be villagers who believe in voting me for the reasons they?ve said and idfk lol

Does wolf hally have it in them to be so abrasively over the top towards two villagers that are correct?

Is it "caught for the wrong reasons and annoyed"? Especially with the idea that us being w/w is silly to them, if they are about to kill me (say with Ender) getting run up for potentially being w/w with me would certainly be frustrating.

[Sunbae]

i don?t think rask has the guts as wolf to come in after zero posting the entire day and immediately start hard pushing the top poster

maybe a bad read but yolo

Is this when wolf hally changes from killing me to killing Rask?

Or is this Hally, under a lot of pressure, making a very good read as a villager?

[Sunbae]

sticking on vul, could also go for a Barto cfd

not feeling a hally lunch

Wolf Zack would absolutely love a villa Hally chop here right?

[Sunbae]

Monty didn't really post until EOD in the sorc game earlier this year fwiw

[Hally]

lol damn, i forgot about that post

now i feel bad

sorry guys

[Hally]

lol damn, i forgot about that post

now i feel bad

sorry guys

re: p#1011

[Sunbae]

fwiw I am a little concerned benneh got cleared a bit too easily but I'm not interested in going there today regardless and I don't think I could even explain why other than vibes/good ol paranoia

I don't think this is a post wolf Zack makes with wolf Hally being in a tight race near eod while Rask is just going into Hally and Neb is mostly good with Hally.

Like, that's just an off the wall observation throwing shade on someone that's helping him at this point while he certainly has more pressing priorities.

[Sunbae]

Zack and Ender prolly OK (good tone - yeah - and no agenda). El Barto too (meta read)
benneh/sunbae/vulgard null
Monty I want to punt but wouldn't because of low posting and my history of reading him.

Was rask killed for wanting to punt Mont while everyone else was pretty fine with mont?

[Sunbae]

i think rask could be a wolf if vul is, yeah

if vul?s not i don?t really think it makes sense to go so hard on me over vul though? vul is definitely the easier push

i agree rask?s reasoning for pushing me is bad though

ok, i am now 100% sure that if Hally is a wolf they knew they were killing Rask by this post

[Sunbae]

maybe but if you are v/v then you are also the more "valuable" mislunch and at the time there was a lot of momentum against you. and at some point bad posts are just bad posts

(not really considering the possibility of you and rask being w/w in this theorycrafting atm)

and if that's the case, zack wolf turning around and shading rask here doesn't really mesh with hally's posts

i think im drifting further apart from my hally/zack team the more i read