Casual 9er Game Thread

[Sunbae]

4-3 Vulgard-Hally I believe

peepeepoopoo

Now it makes sense!





You posted the exact same response last game. Calculated?



shush



Tortoise beats hare.



Vote: Hally

[Sunbae]

Podracing.

Vote: Hally

to make it 4/4

i know it was a "test" but does w ender get w hally even while the threads kinda going ham and them?

[Sunbae]

Uh. I became consensus POE because I did the thing where I draw way too much attention to myself D1 as wolf and then couldn't shake it because I defended the wolf that died D1.

I do not intend to defend a wolf that dies D1 this game? Smile.

[Sunbae]

Perfect. How strongly do you feel about Hally?

I don't think Zack could be scum, he posted the sentence he used as town.

this mont/ender back and forth is so out of flow with everything else that's been going on

[Sunbae]

this mont/ender back and forth is so out of flow with everything else that's been going on

note: i dont think its because they are both wolves right now, its just ... somethings weird with it. like a total lack of urgency

[Sunbae]

I think (good thing you asked me actually) if Vulgard is town I will have words with him. (like Ender literally sold the dude to Hally after her flipflop on you, and her past suspicions on him)

noticed it while rereading Hally

Wolf team of Ender/Mont want to blast Rask here between those two posts? Benefit of getting people to delete villa hally after?

[Sunbae]

I suppose. How do you feel about me voting Sunbae?

What is this?

[Sunbae]

I have never wolfread you though. :)

this is to hally and i don't think it's w/w

if ender wolf is voting hally wolf here, yeah the vote isn't sticking but the entire purpose of it is to look good if hally flips later (or vice versa). so why is it being telegraphed so hard as not real and just for science in that case?

[Sunbae]

Does hally have no wolf pairs that work?

[Sunbae]

not a fan of monty's catchup here, especially the deflection that sunbae would need to work to get vulgard lunched today and that leading to a vote on hally for hally asking him to talk about sunbae more

i know we have wagons and all and people need to make a decision but this just feels sloppy

[Sunbae]

@Hally can you talk about your read on rask more? is it just you think he is different from past wolf games?

Follow up: This Zack question to hally in this eod situation again makes no sense to me if w/w and they know they are killing rask

[Sunbae]

Please, isn't it obvious that Sunbae-Hally need to TD? Look at this interesting reasoning.



Always a good process for catching Bart. Survivor of Sunbae-Hally should TD Bart.

v/v/v isn't it?

[Sunbae]

no, it?s not obvious at all

I really don't think mont/hally works either

[Zack]

alright as I'm reading sunbaes posts I'm getting the feeling that me thinking Monty was villagy and theorizing in that world may have been pretty dumb

[Sunbae]

Don't know what to tell you, but Vulgard was the towniest player of the day. Will you at least TDome Hally with Bart today, if not Sunbae?

If looking for a tinfoil angle, the Rask kill is something scum-Zack would do, so that could be a crumb for the postgame.

i continue to not think mont/hally works

and im starting to think this is all v/v/v thunderdoming

[Hally]

Wolf Zack would absolutely love a villa Hally chop here right?

this nagged at me a lot D2 and it was part of the reason i was reluctant to push zack despite some concerns here and there

i was (and still am) kinda torn on whether w!zack would actually stick his neck out for me

i think it’s… possible? in that i didn’t think i was actually going to get D1’d. people hate killing active strong players D1 and zack knows that so i could see him going for the pocket on me when he sees i’m vulnerable thinking that i wouldn’t end up going over and would probably get more town read as the game goes on.

also zack was pushing vul with me so it would look pretty bad if he were to heel turn, switch off vul when he was awol and start pushing me instead. i don’t really think w!him could have done that without catching heat.

buuut he could also just be a villager who was defending me correctly

buuuuut if the difference checks i laid out earlier are correct, zack/ender has exactly one wolf and they both town read me while i was getting heat (though ender did it less overtly which is maybe something to look into) so i know that at least one wolf passed up the chance to stick the knife in me when the thread was against me and went the TMI/pocket route instead, so i have to figure out which one of them did that

but not now because i really have to sleep whyamistillawakeihatemyself

[Sunbae]

start punting

hally to me saying ima punt mont into the sun if hally is a villager
and then goes into grilling mont themselves

If w/w, im sure they recognize they need to distance at that point at sod2 but this has been pretty steady and Im not so sure i think it can be theater

[Zack]

also i’m not sure what you think i’d be doing as a wolf by bringing up over and over how rask wolf read me and town read bart

there’s no reason i’d have to say the NK looked good for bart / didn’t seem to make sense for a bart/mont team

i could easily have not included that part of the NKA if i was a wolf and/or not repeated it once nobody cared the first time

wifom, etc but i think my NKA was some of my villageriest posting because you can clearly see i don’t have an agenda and am just stumbling around aimlessly trying to figure shit out after something happened that didn’t make sense fmpov

re: conclusion thing sloppy wording on my part I guess, I mean you still wolf read them and didn't seem to have a difficult time getting to a vote on Barto (unless my memory is just completely off) so it didn't seem like it was really impacting your reads much despite how much you were talking about it

and you can say you were being villagy but it mostly seemed like busywork to me and I'm pretty sure benneh disliked it too, will check tomorrow

[Sunbae]

hmm?

This about me punting mont into the sun. Second time Zack has kinda softly defended Mont?

[EnderWiggin]

Hi.

I'm ish here and dunno how well I can go. Still braindeadish but awake now.

[EnderWiggin]

Follow up: This Zack question to hally in this eod situation again makes no sense to me if w/w and they know they are killing rask

Zack absolutely could say that about the nightkill target. It's free distancing, cheap and family friendly, with no real need to actually like invest in it.

[EnderWiggin]

Also something I do as wolf a lot, talk about things that probably don't need to be talked about but people are going to give me weak clears because "Why would wolf!Ender talk about this."

[Hally]

Does hally have no wolf pairs that work?

yes? probably? idk

but yes

[Sunbae]

i want to punt monty simply for that "Don't know what to tell you, but Vulgard was the towniest player of the day"

followed by this right after?

[EnderWiggin]

I am probably wrong somewhere in my reads, or Zack/Monty decided I was that low in priority that me punting one of them wasn't a danger.

[Zack]

Zack absolutely could say that about the nightkill target. It's free distancing, cheap and family friendly, with no real need to actually like invest in it.

counterpoint, when have I ever cared about being family friendly?

[EnderWiggin]

yes? probably? idk

but yes

Sunbae/Hally w/w, got it.

[EnderWiggin]

counterpoint, when have I ever cared about being family friendly?

[Zack]

followed by this right after?

I really disliked his sod yesterday, and also viscerally disliked his lone SOD post today

going to shower then re read EOD with a focus on him

[EnderWiggin]

Also the reason I soft-cleared Barto yesterday was because they were in an antagonistic mindframe approach which I don't associate with their wolf game. Also because threadstate told me that Barto was probably the LHF.

I know this question was Benneh and he's dead now but answering it anyway.