Casual 9er Game Thread

[Montmorency]

Hally-Sunbae GG
Hally-Zack GG
Ender-Zack GG
Ender-Hally GG
Sunbae-Zack 5% winnable
Sunbae-Ender 20% winnable

Wagonomics more or less guarantees my ouster in 4/6 pairings. Don't think I can rally against Sunbae though. #WhereIsEnder

[Zack]

are these all of the d1 interactions?

[Hally]

are these all of the d1 interactions?

afaict yeah

i just looked at it from ender’s side because i don’t remember mont mentioning ender really but if someone wants to do a skim feel free

i don’t have time to look on my phone

[Hally]

ender/mont interactions are pretty weird, esp from ender?s side

D1 ender town reads mont for vibes. iirc this was when sunbae/me were also town reading mont and nobody was susing him, so safe place to plop a town read on a partner (though maybe ender makes an effort to explain it if w/w?).

then they have a prolonged interaction at EoD when the wagons are me/vul where they talk about unrelated things like why ender was PoE?d as a wolf in sorc (how is this relevant to figuring out ender?s alignment when he wasn?t even getting PoE?d?). mont asks him about me and he gives a noncommittal answer. then mont asks about sunbae and he says he doesn?t agree with voting there but mont can do what he wants. notably earlier ender said sunbae was LOCK TOWN and we would vote sunbae over his dead body but in this exchange he just shrugs at mont wanting to vote sunbae, and mont even says the reply seems more chill than expected but does nothing with it. this entire interaction seems to go nowhere and serve no purpose. monty doesn?t seem to be doing anything with the answers he gets.

what?s interesting is they don?t talk about vul at all despite him being a wagon. mont claims he thought vul was the villageriest person D1 and ender was voting vul atp (and in fact started vul?s wagon after omgusing vul for voting him), yet mont doesn?t question ender?s vote on vul or say he town reads vul or anything. it?s such an obvious and interesting topic if monty is truly trying to sort ender here but he doesn?t even mention it.

just a bizarre exchange frankly. it?s such a long back and forth with no discernible purpose. very ping pongy.

fast forward to SoD2 and mont is getting his booty spanked by zack and sunbae. ender comes in and his town read on mont from D1 is now gone? he says he could lunch monty. then he?s pretty much gone for the rest of the day and mont ends up not being in danger.

today ender comes in voting me and says zack is his second wolf read. he doesn?t mention mont iirc. then when sunbae starts burying mont he pivots to voting mont very easily.

what is going on here lol

[Hally]

the thing that makes me hesitant is that until today i don’t think mont has actually talked about or made an effort to read ender? this can be a w/w tell for some wolves who struggle to talk about their bros but i’m not sure if mont is one of them and generally in a two wolf game i would expect a wolf to attempt to make a read on their partner

not sure if it’s enough to rule it out though

[EnderWiggin]

As if I would not try and undermine Sunbae if I was partners with Monty

[Zack]

As if I would not try and undermine Sunbae if I was partners with Monty

bussing monty and trying to pocket sunbae is not that far-fetched

[Zack]

As if I would not try and undermine Sunbae if I was partners with Monty

bussing monty and trying to pocket sunbae is not that far-fetched

[Hally]

i reread the whole game btw, or well i skimmed

and my biggest takeaways other than mont/ender interactions were that 1) idk why i was town reading ender at any point lol and 2) i think i stand by my sunbae/zack not w/w read (not that it really matters because we’re losing today if that’s the team anyway)

i also still think sunbae is probably town? but the sunbae/ender mutual defense still gives me a lot of pause because in rereading i didn’t really get how they arrived at such strong and lasting town reads on each other, so i do think it’s still possible they went for the powerwolf go brrr strat

but i also am kinda okay losing to sunbae still lol

so i dunno, the mont/ender interactions is probably the most interesting nugget i have rn

[Zack]

yeah okay

ender/monty
hally/monty
ender/sunbae

if it's anything else we lost anyway

glgl

[Hally]

alright w/e

i wanted to hold the ender vote to make him sweat a bit but realistically i was always voting mont here

vote: mont

if this is wrong and sunbae fooled everyone i’m pretty content with losing

glgl

[Montmorency]

Literally my only partner here could be Sunbae.

Someone tell me why Sunbae is a wolf

See:

Hally-Sunbae GG
Hally-Zack GG
Ender-Zack GG
Ender-Hally GG
Sunbae-Zack 5% winnable
Sunbae-Ender 20% winnable

Wagonomics more or less guarantees my ouster in 4/6 pairings. Don't think I can rally against Sunbae though. #WhereIsEnder

[EnderWiggin]

As for #whereisender?

Ender decided he was probably going to be alive for an f3 and didn't know which of Zack or Hally it was and it was either Monty is scum or game over so he mentally checked out to try and get better before f3 or at least retain energy for it

[Zack]

Monty/hally or ender/sunbae seem most possible to me

betting on the former

[Montmorency]

Let's just vote Zack I guess?

[Zack]

or this is just w/w and playing for f3 now

[Visor]

Players Votes

Montmorency 3 (EnderWiggin, Sunbae, Zack)
EnderWiggin 2 (Montmorency, Hally)

[EnderWiggin]

Hally really pre-scumreading me off Monty's flip?