Casual december game

[ladd]

i dont even know why people actually think ender is a wolf

vulgard i get why ppl wolfread, ppl just called ender a wolf and im just like ???

i cased him (and you even used my case on ender to say i a wolfy) and i am fairly sure i am not the only who did?

plenty of people pointed out problems with his posts

do you really not understand the wolfread on him

[Visor]

i cased him (and you even used my case on ender to say i a wolfy) and i am fairly sure i am not the only who did?

plenty of people pointed out problems with his posts

do you really not understand the wolfread on him

no.

[ladd]

i cased him (and you even used my case on ender to say i a wolfy) and i am fairly sure i am not the only who did?

plenty of people pointed out problems with his posts

do you really not understand the wolfread on him

i mean you even wolfread ender yousrself lol

i genuinely don't get why you are turning around so hard on him rn. just cause of the chance he got shot?

[Visor]

i mean you even wolfread ender yousrself lol

i genuinely don't get why you are turning around so hard on him rn. just cause of the chance he got shot?

yes it looks to me as if he was the shot

[ladd]

yes it looks to me as if he was the shot

convince me he was the shot and not vulgard?

[Visor]

convince me he was the shot and not vulgard?

atpg made a post saying ender if you are town will you kill visor - implying that he is a) not shooting me b) shooting ender, as in if atpg shoots right, it wont amtter, but if he shoots wrong and dies, he is giving instructions to ender

and that renata post is not hard to make

[Visor]

ender was also the main wagon and the one ppl argued to be shot more

(hell he was the one i argued to be shot to clear him up)

[Visor]

if it comes down to it, ill vote ender, whatever

but there are other wolves in the game so people should be looking at other peope (besides me )

[ladd]

if it comes down to it, ill vote ender, whatever

but there are other wolves in the game so people should be looking at other peope (besides me )

let's say you are villager

why not something like ender/amy/kage/(hk/monty/maybeee boq)



i feel like you are either a villager going too down in the rabbit holes and making the game harder on himself or a wolf going for the YOLO. i am leaning the 2nd right now but WHO KNOWS

or it's also possible i am the villager on upside down world but if ender/amy are v/v idek what teams are possible, i think my top villagers +dya are all villagers a lot of the times

[ladd]

atpg made a post saying ender if you are town will you kill visor - implying that he is a) not shooting me b) shooting ender, as in if atpg shoots right, it wont amtter, but if he shoots wrong and dies, he is giving instructions to ender

and that renata post is not hard to make

he made that post 8 hours before he got the shot off. idk why both you and ender are even bringing it up (i mean i get why ender does)

in his last posts he clearly hedges between them

[Montmorency]

taffy is a wolf because there is no attitude, just treading water, no push, no sassitude, just posting reasonable sounding thinsg while not moving the game state forward

this seems completely opposite to how they seem to be posting

afaict they have plenty of attitude/sassiness

dya is a wolf for the lack of game progression and focusin gon the logic read LOL (and the amy white knight is eh)

maybe if it was 2 years ago but their meta changed a ton

Antispew?

hollowkatt is a wolf cause mac sucks donkey balls and always gets reads like tha twrong and hkatt hasnt hit the towny explanation standards i like from him

did you read the sorcerer game you hosted? i don't think he is posting differently from there

(but i concede he may be a wolf)

Notably different treatment of HK vs. dyachei and Taffy - antipaired to HK?

sometimes ww is an easy game and you get to clear people for free



and even besides that taffy is the villageriest player itg IMO

i can villa case them if needed but they'd be my 1 do not ever kill

Ladd hard-defends taffy against Visor.

Ladd should have at least one partner between Taffy-dyach-HK for sure.

I think dyach deserves pressure more than Amy right now, and Taffy more than HK.

There's more ladd stuff around those posts, including one post where he praises Renata but disagrees with her on dyach shade.

i cased him (and you even used my case on ender to say i a wolfy) and i am fairly sure i am not the only who did?

plenty of people pointed out problems with his posts

do you really not understand the wolfread on him

Really don't think ender-ladd is a thing.

[Montmorency]

BTW I refuse to believe that there were zero scum on Visor yesterday. Visor was genuinely dangerous to the Mafia.

Csargo-Taffy?

vulgard ,all three of u me and ender are v

where are you looking to

who is suspect in this world to you

can you pelase talk to me about ladd and taffy?

Aaayyyyyyyyy

normally the weirder monty is, the more likely he is a villager

he has been... less weird, doesnt have his off the wall pushes, doesnt have his soulread target that he pushes for with ominous wording - thats what stands out to me from him

really interested to see what he comes up with later

Ender was the push, bro - don't demand novelty from me.
@Visorslash

[Vulgard]

BTW I refuse to believe that there were zero scum on Visor yesterday. Visor was genuinely dangerous to the Mafia.

Csargo-Taffy?




Aaayyyyyyyyy



Ender was the push, bro - don't demand novelty from me.
@Visorslash

Yeah, I wanted to kill someone for Visor after that and I'm glad I did.

[Raskolnikov]

Amy (2): Boquise, Vulgard
Kage(1): Monty
Monty(1): HK
Csargo (1): Renata
Renata (1) : Csargo
Dya (1): Ender

[Renata]

Antispew?



Notably different treatment of HK vs. dyachei and Taffy - antipaired to HK?





Ladd hard-defends taffy against Visor.

Ladd should have at least one partner between Taffy-dyach-HK for sure.

I think dyach deserves pressure more than Amy right now, and Taffy more than HK.

There's more ladd stuff around those posts, including one post where he praises Renata but disagrees with her on dyach shade.






Really don't think ender-ladd is a thing.

What about that response on Hollowkatt makes you think "anti-pair"? Granted I think Hollowkatt is scummier than the day is long but that doesn't look like distancing to you? The first instinct is to defend. Then unlike the other two, concede that maybe Hollowkatt actually is a wolf.

[Montmorency]

A further point: ladd was pretty much UTR for almost everyone by D3; I do not believe he was expecting to die anytime soon while formulating his D2 content.

What about that response on Hollowkatt makes you think "anti-pair"? Granted I think Hollowkatt is scummier than the day is long but that doesn't look like distancing to you? The first instinct is to defend. Then unlike the other two, concede that maybe Hollowkatt actually is a wolf.

Well, I encourage people to look at all the ladd posts I quoted above holistically and try to extract any patterns in how he discusses people. So for example in what you're responding to, Visor SRed:

Taffy
Dya
HK

Ladd rejected all of these.

He rejected Taffy SR because Taffy has attitude, pushes, furthers the game - "completely opposite" what Visor says.

He rejected dya SR because Visor's meta on dya is out of date (that's it).

He rejected HK SR because he's posting the same as in Visor's Sorc game ("but i concede he may be a wolf").

I can't tell you what it all means, but we can say he's wishy-washy on HK, hard-defending Taffy, and offering a very vague defense of dya.

[Renata]

A further point: ladd was pretty much UTR for almost everyone by D3; I do not believe he was expecting to die anytime soon while formulating his D2 content.



Well, I encourage people to look at all the ladd posts I quoted above holistically and try to extract any patterns in how he discusses people. So for example in what you're responding to, Visor SRed:

Taffy
Dya
HK

Ladd rejected all of these.

He rejected Taffy SR because Taffy has attitude, pushes, furthers the game - "completely opposite" what Visor says.

He rejected dya SR because Visor's meta on dya is out of date (that's it).

He rejected HK SR because he's posting the same as in Visor's Sorc game ("but i concede he may be a wolf").

I can't tell you what it all means, but we can say he's wishy-washy on HK, hard-defending Taffy, and offering a very vague defense of dya.

Well, yeah. I don't see how that adds up to Taffy and Dyachei being suss but Hollowkatt not. The distinction you're trying to draw doesn't exist. This is someone who will happily defend townies. Maybe you don't know that for sure, but I do.

[Montmorency]

Well, yeah. I don't see how that adds up to Taffy and Dyachei being suss but Hollowkatt not. The distinction you're trying to draw doesn't exist. This is someone who will happily defend townies. Maybe you don't know that for sure, but I do.

Sure, see again his quoted reads list from early D2:

my strongest villa reads are cape/vulgard

then pizza/taffy (idk if i mentioned them but i really liked a string of posts they had on..some page. it was v genuine imo)

then i villa lean a bunch of people but i could easily be wrong on them -csargo/monty/dya/boq/HK

What he's doing with Visor at EOD is consistent with that: strongest defense for Taffy.

HK is the one, of the three, he explicitly says "may be" scum however. And I expect that ladd did the typical thing and spread his teammates among tiers.

So even if you think HK is scummy, he shouldn't be easily paired with Taffy or dya.

[Renata]

Sure, see again his quoted reads list from early D2:



What he's doing with Visor at EOD is consistent with that: strongest defense for Taffy.

HK is the one, of the three, he explicitly says "may be" scum however. And I expect that ladd did the typical thing and spread his teammates among tiers.

So even if you think HK is scummy, he shouldn't be easily paired with Taffy or dya.

Ohh. Never mind. I think you at least in part were making a totally different point than I thought you were.