Casual december game

[Logic]

Early vibes from people with posts memorable enough for me to read to some degree

Towny:
Pizza
Monty
Hollowkatt
Cape

Neutral
Visor

Scummy
Ender
Taffy

I'll leave you guys to figure out the "why" on each, as I'm off to make dinner.

[hollowkatt]

I want to believe you believe that, but he's already reading incomprehension towntell'd himself immediately after rand so.

I don't know if I will believe that, but I will weigh one singular mostly reliable towntell against scumtells and solving for the remainder.

It's a pretty hefty one. I'd value it as much as like 9/10 true alignment cop check, 1/10 wrong check.

I don't believe in towntells

[hollowkatt]

I wish to neither pocket nor buddy but specifically holla at HollowKatt and say, lettuce neighbor.

Not a claim. Not a masonry. Two people of unknown alignment working closely together for a solve this game.

Why?

Because I'd like to try that at least once before I die IRL with you. You are an interesting person and I have yet to town-town with you once IIRC?

sure why not

the only semi-solid read I currently have is you're weird and I'm not sure if I trust you. I remember you opening weirdly in a mash maybe it was and you flipped wolf and this opening reminded me of that opening, which is why I voted for you.

[Ampharos]

Vote: Logic

[Montmorency]

The wolf team had a plan, and he was like: no.

And it worked. And the rest of the team got dunked because their wolf plan was a very very very readable wolf plan. They all died for that wolf plan.

It's much more a Pizza-specific fact pattern. Namely, we showed you the plan, you utterly destroyed it within 5 hours of game start, inarguably so - believe me, I tried to argue the case - so I scurried away while...

It was like if Mace Windu and the Masters confronted Palpatine, but with Anakin Skywalker on their side. Palpatine was got dead to rights, nothing for him to do but go out sword a-blazing, but Count Dooku fucked off to the Outer Rim because discretion is the better part of valor. The other apprentices didn't have to stay to confront the Jedi Council out of solidarity, with predictable results. If that makes sense to you.

I could afford to be a towny SK in my one SK game because, well, because it was Old Gameroom, but also because I had NK invulnerability.

But for the past 5 years I haven't even been able to reach 'average' as town unless I can make it to mid-game without a strong theory of the game.

But I should already be someone people have an opinion on, a real one, which means RVS can be mercifully done and over with as soon as people cold read me.

You erect these sorts of tiered defensive perimeters and full-spectrum slot reads as any alignment. You love confusing and overwhelming the player base with connections because it works just as well on Mafia as on Town. And you're always improving your game, so AFAIK your scum games used to be more endgame heavy but now your town games probably match them. I haven't caught you red-handed in 9 years, and if I've found you as town-town it was most likely when you were in the process of being wagoned by scum (which you could no longer allow to happen anymore). Even before MU you warned that you're not a good D1 read, and all the less so by now surely.

[Cape90]

Early vibes from people with posts memorable enough for me to read to some degree

Towny:
Pizza
Monty
Hollowkatt
Cape

Neutral
Visor

Scummy
Ender
Taffy

I'll leave you guys to figure out the "why" on each, as I'm off to make dinner.

Bet

Pizza - Probably for their townread of me + response to HK. Mayyyybe meta read on Monty.
Monty - No idea, vote on visor?
Hollowkatt - Probably for this towny sentence "did cape get got or did he swerve correctly after getting got"
Cape - Push on ATPG while ATPG was roleplaying and then retracting that and that being like a towntell. Haha get fooled!

Visor - Hasn't done anything noteworthy so far.

Ender - Entered the game insta voting someone you find towny to blend in? May hav e to do with your Monty read I don't necessarily get yet. Sheeping ATPG?
Taffy - Guessing they feel stilted.

I am so good at mafia gameplay and totally got everyone by suspecting ATPG "on accident" to get townreads as planned.

[Cape90]

Oh I get it, Logic just predicted the future with Monty

[EnderWiggin]

Montmorency, one of the wolfiest townies in existence.

And oddly, one of the most villagery serial killers in existence, mainly because he didn't want to play to his actual win condition and just pretended to be townie.

Monty is S-tier cloud-cuckoolander and I say that with love and due respect.

I can also say, depending on the game, he is as wolfy as a wolf as he is as town, or, he's extremely villagery because he's disconnected from the entire wolf team and doing nothing they ask of him and not assisting with their wolf plan and generally being his very weird self, and that's why I never found him in chess mafia.

The wolf team had a plan, and he was like: no.

And it worked. And the rest of the team got dunked because their wolf plan was a very very very readable wolf plan. They all died for that wolf plan.

Except Monty.

This is my meta based fair warning about how utterly bizarre Monty is as a player, and how certainty on Monty's alignment is folly.

This ain't my first rodeo bucko

[EnderWiggin]

I was thinking the same thing but didn't have the courage to say it right off the bat.

Wolfy agree right here.

[Ampharos]

help i've never done a rodeo before

the horse is angry and i'm scared

[Cape90]

153 also is a town post that belongs to town thanks for listening. This is a pocket attempt but I hope people read this point anyways and agree with me and pocket me too!

[EnderWiggin]

153 also is a town post that belongs to town thanks for listening. This is a pocket attempt but I hope people read this point anyways and agree with me and pocket me too!

Get in my pocket.

[EnderWiggin]

help i've never done a rodeo before

the horse is angry and i'm scared

Have you tried reciting to it the little book of calm?

I find that helps whenever I'm feeling angry.

[Cape90]

I saw these postnums being quoted and assumed they were legit for a minute.

Actual postnum? 130

I wonder what ATPG thinks of this dumbtell

Which is a roundabout way of me asking him :D

[EnderWiggin]

vote: Logic

For ? reasons.

[Ampharos]

if logic's readslist is vibes-based, why does he then go out of his way to add "i'll let you guys figure out the reasons"

"vibes" is a perfectly valid reason

strikes me as a worry that his readslist won't look legitimate enough without the implication that there's additional reasoning happening behind-the-scenes

[EnderWiggin]

I am now calling Ampharos my mindmeld townbuddy.

This is not a pocket attempt.tm

[Ampharos]

wait fuck i got tricked into actually playing mafia

this isn't persona 5 royal at all

[hollowkatt]

if logic's readslist is vibes-based, why does he then go out of his way to add "i'll let you guys figure out the reasons"

"vibes" is a perfectly valid reason

strikes me as a worry that his readslist won't look legitimate enough without the implication that there's additional reasoning happening behind-the-scenes

if logic randed wolf I'm gonna laugh, and then ignore him and chop ender instead

[Cape90]

if logic's readslist is vibes-based, why does he then go out of his way to add "i'll let you guys figure out the reasons"

"vibes" is a perfectly valid reason

strikes me as a worry that his readslist won't look legitimate enough without the implication that there's additional reasoning happening behind-the-scenes

I made up reasons for Logic, which means they are exactly his thoughts

[EnderWiggin]

There's also another obvious wolfread here. But also I'm not saying it for another 20 hours just in case.

[Cape90]

I made up reasons for Logic, which means they are exactly his thoughts

hydras be like

[EnderWiggin]

wait fuck i got tricked into actually playing mafia

this isn't persona 5 royal at all

And here I thought this was just a rodeo

[EnderWiggin]

if logic randed wolf I'm gonna laugh, and then ignore him and chop ender instead

*Single tear*

[EnderWiggin]

HK used to like playing with me.

Then he took an EnderTunnel to the knee.

[Cape90]

There's also another obvious wolfread here. But also I'm not saying it for another 20 hours just in case.

Yeah I agree with your read on Ampharos

I am now calling Ampharos my mindmeld townbuddy.

This is not a pocket attempt.tm

wait

[Cape90]

EnderWiggin might be town ;)

[Ampharos]

pizza's manic energy is undeniably real and probably alignment nonindicative

his insistence that rvs won't end until people give reads on him is... odd, and almost somewhat passive in a roundabout sort of way. there are a billion ways for rvs to give way to Real Content, many of which include him giving reads on other people, and the implication that he himself will not be the one to give the read that ends rvs somewhat concerns me

based purely on recollection [i will NOT be doing research, do NOT ask me to] pizza does have a tendency to adopt a thread-protagonist persona as either alignment, but as villager i think it breaks closer to "i'll lead the charge" vs as wolf being "let's all do this together". his actual game-related comments thus far strike me as slightly leaning towards the latter

that said i kinda don't think i'm actually wolfreading him lol

[Ampharos]

Yeah I agree with your read on Ampharos



wait

get smoked

[EnderWiggin]

Amph, your icon makes me think of Manwha comics except I can't place it.