Casual december game

[Cape90]

Wolfy fluff and jokes rather than solving

Wolfy lack of reads or progressions

Wolfy nulls on everyone so far and no desire to change it

Wolfy deliberately calling their own behavior wolfy

What else.

I got voted, I should do the wolfy lol to indicate nervousness even though nothing funny has happened, including all my jokes so far.

The game just started and we are in RVS. There ain't 0 way you are town thinking like this already. Page 30 read on page 1 of the game

[Askthepizzaguy]

The game just started and we are in RVS. There ain't 0 way you are town thinking like this already. Page 30 read on page 1 of the game

Actually, in post 1285, I clearly explain how I got to this read on that player. Read my iso.

Wolfy repeating of previous work, and reads that stagnate and never evolve or change, and a wolfy demand to be townread for my busywork so far.

[Cape90]

Actually, in post 1285, I clearly explain how I got to this read on that player. Read my iso.

Wolfy repeating of previous work, and reads that stagnate and never evolve or change, and a wolfy demand to be townread for my busywork so far.

Yeah sorry, you are right. also I think post 1329 was a wolfy response to your read.

The dude literally just posted a gif and said "lol ur wrong" "git good" I think you have them on the ropes.

Okay they gave a proper response in 1357 but I don't think it's super good either.

The way visor said that he hasn't been coasty at all and has well-thought out reads totally contradicts the whole gameplay of them so far.

You know Visor, in 981 you quoted a few of my posts and said some words about them like you were gonna give a read on me or something. But then you just walked away and said null, what's up with that? You even called other players wolfy as ATPG said and yet you say you don't have a strong stance on them? My dude that is a stance u know.

I think ATPG is onto something

[Montmorency]

This is going to be even harder if we play off fictional reads.

Vote: Visor

[Cape90]

This is going to be even harder if we play off fictional reads.

Vote: Visor

interesting how you just go with the fictional read after saying this

[Montmorency]

Fictional read? He who spelt it dealt it.

Pizza gone real quiet since the vote dropped.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fictional read? He who spelt it dealt it.

Pizza gone real quiet since the vote dropped.

I will be intensely distracted this game by other games, hosting, baby, and hanging out and socializing.

My WIM meter is at 50 percent which is staggeringly low for someone like me.

I am very much in super casual mode here rn and I also will not megapost or hog the whole discussion here.

I need you people to post more so I have something to cold read, actually. Make with the ending of RVS and get closer toward meaty solving as soon as possible.

Start with reads on me wolf or town.

Reads you can reverse. Reads you will not bind to the souls of your firstborn child. Reads that are in dry erase marker, and have eraser in hand.

But I should already be someone people have an opinion on, a real one, which means RVS can be mercifully done and over with as soon as people cold read me.

[Logic]

I saw these postnums being quoted and assumed they were legit for a minute.

Actual postnum? 130

[Cape90]

I saw these postnums being quoted and assumed they were legit for a minute.

Actual postnum? 130

I wonder what ATPG thinks of this dumbtell

Which is a roundabout way of me asking him :D

[Askthepizzaguy]

I wonder what ATPG thinks of this dumbtell

Which is a roundabout way of me asking him :D

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I don't know if I believe it but here is the thing

Let me tell you the kinds of derps and dumbtells I have seen in my ancient amount of years

Last year (I think) Return of the Clowns game, Lightfoot as town with moderator powers was reading the game, and making a post with claims in it.

instead of replying to an old post, she edited that old post, so that she edited in a claim she saw later in the thread, before the claim was ever made.

It looked like, since no "edited by" showed up, since she is a moderator, that she predicted Colby's claim.

Colby was obviously a wolf, and therefore, her predicting Colby's claim in advance made it seem like she had wolf chat with Colby.

Everything else she posted all game was townie and herself.

Worse, she has terrible memory and DIDNT REMEMBER SHE EDITED THE POST. FLAT OUT DID NOT KNOW SHE DID IT AT ALL. Couldn't explain how it happened, didn't even know that it happened.

That one post made me throw out my town read on her and start over as possibly outed.

I eventually decided..... if every single other post in the game is townie, then she fooled me.

If I can't town read her or wolf read her based on all her other posts, outside of that one anomaly, that might have spewed her wolf wolf with Colby, evidence of sharing a wolf chat, then I didn't want to let a mistake that gross impact the game.

I chose to ignore what should have been outing evidence she couldn't explain as TMI and always wolf wolf with Colby.

I town read her based on 99 percent of her iso otherwise.

And she was town. And we defeated all 3 actual wolves.

I have seen the impossible, wolfiest derps.

I do not accept derp clears anymore, and I do not find derps to be wolfy. Derps are tactics as wolf, and townies can derp so hard, in a wolfy enough way, that I refuse to alignment read a derp anymore.

Forever, as a policy.

If I cannot read you based on 99 out of 100 other posts in your eventual iso, I dont deserve to townread you or wolf catch you based on any derp.

End of policy rant about derpclears and dumbtells.

TLDR, as a policy, due to specific examples over the years, nothing derpclearing is clearing, and wolfy dumbtells can come from townies enough that I throw away all that evidence as crappy evidence.

It's as valid to me now as third on the wagon is always a wolf. It's just not true, it correlated once upon a time.

Derpclears correlated with townie behavior, wolfy dumbtells that look fake correlated with wolfy behavior once upon a time.

We're mostly stone cold veterans.

All that stuff is beyond NAI now. Throw it away.

My advice, ignore me on it if you wanna solve it your own way.

This is the most assertively i think Ive ever declared something null, ever. I am passionate about this being null.

This is in general, I reserve the right to find something particularly difficult to fake derp or find something impossibly wolfy and vote it, but.

It's gotta be super exceptional. Way worse than the Lightfoot example above.

[Cape90]

posts dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

Yeah that's kinda true...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I don't know if I believe it but here is the thing

Let me tell you the kinds of derps and dumbtells I have seen in my ancient amount of years

Last year (I think) Return of the Clowns game, Lightfoot as town with moderator powers was reading the game, and making a post with claims in it.

instead of replying to an old post, she edited that old post, so that she edited in a claim she saw later in the thread, before the claim was ever made.

It looked like, since no "edited by" showed up, since she is a moderator, that she predicted Colby's claim.

Colby was obviously a wolf, and therefore, her predicting Colby's claim in advance made it seem like she had wolf chat with Colby.

Everything else she posted all game was townie and herself.

Worse, she has terrible memory and DIDNT REMEMBER SHE EDITED THE POST. FLAT OUT DID NOT KNOW SHE DID IT AT ALL. Couldn't explain how it happened, didn't even know that it happened.

That one post made me throw out my town read on her and start over as possibly outed.

I eventually decided..... if every single other post in the game is townie, then she fooled me.

If I can't town read her or wolf read her based on all her other posts, outside of that one anomaly, that might have spewed her wolf wolf with Colby, evidence of sharing a wolf chat, then I didn't want to let a mistake that gross impact the game.

I chose to ignore what should have been outing evidence she couldn't explain as TMI and always wolf wolf with Colby.

I town read her based on 99 percent of her iso otherwise.

And she was town. And we defeated all 3 actual wolves.

I have seen the impossible, wolfiest derps.

I do not accept derp clears anymore, and I do not find derps to be wolfy. Derps are tactics as wolf, and townies can derp so hard, in a wolfy enough way, that I refuse to alignment read a derp anymore.

Forever, as a policy.

If I cannot read you based on 99 out of 100 other posts in your eventual iso, I dont deserve to townread you or wolf catch you based on any derp.

End of policy rant about derpclears and dumbtells.

TLDR, as a policy, due to specific examples over the years, nothing derpclearing is clearing, and wolfy dumbtells can come from townies enough that I throw away all that evidence as crappy evidence.

It's as valid to me now as third on the wagon is always a wolf. It's just not true, it correlated once upon a time.

Derpclears correlated with townie behavior, wolfy dumbtells that look fake correlated with wolfy behavior once upon a time.

We're mostly stone cold veterans.

All that stuff is beyond NAI now. Throw it away.

My advice, ignore me on it if you wanna solve it your own way.

This is the most assertively i think Ive ever declared something null, ever. I am passionate about this being null.

This is in general, I reserve the right to find something particularly difficult to fake derp or find something impossibly wolfy and vote it, but.

It's gotta be super exceptional. Way worse than the Lightfoot example above.

Good choice, someone tried to derpclear me when I was mafia before, it is a play I sometimes like doing on purpose. I was just wondering because of this + the reasons you were townreading me. I know both instances are fairly different though.

All of the bolded are wolftells.

Please continue villaging if you are, villagers wolftell.

Interesting post

Random aside - I don't think monty is a Wolfy villager, I just think people find it hard to follow his logic sometimes and then assume it must make him a wolf

I think last game I played with Monty, Monty got POE voted out I think when they were indeed town.

I feel more attacked by this than your naked vote.

I don't necessarily get this. You see, with some of my posts I had humor in mind. I do not get that impression from your posts this game. Perhaps this was posting just to post

Phrased exactly how I mean it, because I am adopting the new closed notebook style for everything null and above.

I do not object to Taffy and Monty seeing Day 2, so far.

Interesting read especially on Taffy who is hardly a presence so far and hasn't been towny at all.
I am assuming this all has to do with some of what Ender said about Taffy

Taffy/Monty = NAI or towny, unsure yet

Taffy I think doesn't treat me like this as wolf but that's much weaker and pending further posts.

So I am taking it Pizza is going with a cautionary angle where Ender has TMI. Though I feel like this POV is better to have if you are actually actively wolfreading Ender which it appears ATPG is not exactly.

Leans list, Closed Notebook style: (All other names redacted, in some order of townie to null, with tiers.)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lean wolf (barely... call this "votable" tier.)

5. Ampharos

Unsorted (which means I have reads on everyone else and do not wish to vote unless I can townread Ampharos and/or a lot of unsorteds.)

2. Csargo
6. luvs2spooge
7. dyachei
11. Ladd
12. Vulgard
13. Boquise
15. Renata
17. Kagemusha

Vote: Ampharos

Confidence level: Barely above rand wolf levels of confident, but this slot is neither null nor town lean yet.

as exemplified here. Which also just feels like it isn't exactly aligning with

All of the bolded are wolftells.

Please continue villaging if you are, villagers wolftell.

But maybe I am cosmic braining this since ATPG is saying that Amy was wolftelling over here...

[Visor]

sigh i accidentally closed my tab and lost my post

cliffs:

atpg prob town for d1 (though hes made some weird posts)

csargo prob town (actually this is a horrendous read but yolo lol)

hkatt eh

cape weird

logic wolfy

[Csargo]

sigh i accidentally closed my tab and lost my post

cliffs:

atpg prob town for d1 (though hes made some weird posts)

csargo prob town (actually this is a horrendous read but yolo lol)

hkatt eh

cape weird

logic wolfy

Why is cape weird?

[Visor]

Why is cape weird?

didnt get jokes

posts had weird tone idk


he gets a

[Csargo]

didnt get jokes

posts had weird tone idk


he gets a

d1 pretty glaring indictment

[Cape90]

didnt get jokes

posts had weird tone idk


he gets a

haven't heard that one before

[Cape90]

haven't heard that one before

(this was sarcasm)

[Cape90]

I have just now realized I have been talking to myself with absolutely no activity

i feel like exactly the people i would expect to be wolf read pre-rand are the ones people are most concerned about

Kind of towny

I also find Csargo just kind of towny.

vote logic

seems like an obvious wolf

thanks, though obvious wolfy pop in

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reading Vulgard's Long post responding to ATPG (371) I conclude that I feel like if Ender is mafia, then Vulgard is town, at least I am willing to count on that.

I'm not going to lie - I am a bit concerned about ladd as well for his post about Logic here.

vote logic

seems like an obvious wolf

Same idea as my AOTP concerns, just ignore the part about effort because ladd has barely posted. I don't like the confidence coming into this read, especially since it's a popular take and it feels like an LHF-y target if town. The latter part might be a bit tacked-on and forced in my part, which could lead me to confbiasing the slot, but the first part stands.

Yeah, can't lie though as I do kind of feel this way to elaborate I suppose. I have seen ladd do similar. Also AOTP, nice job XD.

I agree with both of visor's posts

377/380

even for both of the reasons that Visor made those posts.

the part you hate is the part i like
i reckon amy as scum would be more careful in choosing her words and also not breaking the narrative of her posts. It is a weak town read but I have seen town do these sort of last sentences more than wolves, because it is such a thing wolves are paranoid town will wolf read them over tbh

I can... see this thought process. I think boq is town so far, would object to killing.

"I have only made two intentionally wolfy moves so far. Everything else is just me as me as me." translates to inside my brain "actually, there are only two legit reasons to wolf read me rn, and i did that intentionally"

which is something i say too when caught for the wrong reason, as either alignment tbh
so verdict is out
but i giggled tbh!

I feel like caught for the wrong reasons typically refers to wolves.

Okay I am being bothered by semantics lol moving on.

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Yo Ender,

Thanks for 398 about Logic as I was thinking that exact thing.

Sincerely Cape.

Uh

Kind of towny post otherwise, but Pizza was a hard sell regardless of this post.

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Okay but Boq is the towniest player in the game I think.

i was going to scum read you for being overly erratic but now i dont feel like doing it tbh

But like what?

it's way too early in the game for the amount of wall posts I've seen

Allow me to make that number larger

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422 - lmao ladd

he was actually one of my few villagers while catching up

https://media.giphy.com/media/gSIz6gGLhguOY/giphy.gif

this post has been marked as TMI

same with Boq, even though Boq is pretty obvious town.

451 - dyachei I just want you to know that I townread you too this game. (kind of unrelated note) Also I read benneh overnight in the hydra game we both towned in and decided u were town, but then i died with nothing to show for it. But hey, killing Sun and Moon was probably easier :D.

idk i think pizza being blindingly and brazenly confident in the amount of worldbuilding he's already been doing less than halfway into the first phase of a game where his postcount approaches that of the rest of the game combined is more villagery than not

I kind of think him listening to Visor was rand>v for ATPG. Anyone else notice that when Visor asked ATPG to talk less, ATPG just kind of did? I say that out loud and now I think the logic is bad behind it, shhhhhhhh.

Seems like you have no real opinion on me either. But yet you felt the need to state that your null read on me = I can die, yet your null read on the other 3 = no opinion.

Is it because you have the impression that I will be some pointless slot of nonsense?

TBH same.

this reads like you know you are unvoting a wolf

level 0 but sure, we can go with that if it gets you a misvote on boq. Sometimes you have to sacrifice someone to out a wolf.
On a sidenote, it would be funny if 2 wolves just put out proper readslists day 1 like logic/luvs did XD.

have you ever considered that you're always weird cape?

Okay that's true

[Cape90]

sigh i accidentally closed my tab and lost my post

cliffs:

atpg prob town for d1 (though hes made some weird posts)

csargo prob town (actually this is a horrendous read but yolo lol)

hkatt eh

cape weird

logic wolfy

I swear no matter the game, you always say I am weird bronana. This is easily the towniest I have been with you, but I am extremely biased, but then again, that chris 17er game isn't a hard bar to jump over :p.

In a roundabout way, I think this makes you kind of susp

IDK you were WAY more excited about playing in the last totalwar game we both towned in (I might be lying and I think you found me towny there while everyone else was calling me weird...)

[dyachei]

have you ever considered that you're always weird cape?

[Visor]

I swear no matter the game, you always say I am weird bronana. This is easily the towniest I have been with you, but I am extremely biased, but then again, that chris 17er game isn't a hard bar to jump over :p.

In a roundabout way, I think this makes you kind of susp

IDK you were WAY more excited about playing in the last totalwar game we both towned in (I might be lying and I think you found me towny there while everyone else was calling me weird...)

I don't recall calling U weird tbh

[Cape90]

I don't recall calling U weird tbh

eh, again I started backtracking on that because of the totalwar game I remembered but I do recall you having that read on like a couple turbo games, but I guess we haven't played a lot in the grand scheme of things

[Visor]

Was hoping logic would pop in with something more interesting than that lol

[Cape90]

Was hoping logic would pop in with something more interesting than that lol

Yeah same. I am mostly withholding votes since I haven't been keeping track at all and no mod/body has really posted much of anything on VC

[dyachei]

cape feeling a lot like that hydra game to me

[Visor]

Tbh cape I waffle between finding you generally townie enough but also finding some of your post construction Wolfy

It's possible that it was just an awkward post and you are just posting villagery in general

We will see