Casual december game

[Cape90]

Csargo/Visor maybe clear from that claim.

I'm going to hold onto a "Wolves claiming Mason" but I don't think either were up for votes enough for them to do that there. So clearing them.

Pizza probably clear from the wifom play he's doing. I'm willing to entertain it until he claims midday in about 21.5ish hours.

Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner. Amy possibly pocketed me but I'm reviewing.

Vulgard is the person I wanna townread but for respect for Luvs I'm going to drop my pre-read and reconsider them.

Kage/Ladd/Dyachei are the grouping I don't really have a read on properly rn.

HK/Monty/Boq are the three names I really want to dig into today because I think a wolf exists in that.

This list is pendingpossiblechanges depending on how I read through things when I have time.

i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming

I wouldn't be surprised if the claim was fake but i don't suspect either so meh

Pizza isn't cleared off that try again. It looks towny but I wouldn't go that far in a slot that should at least be looked at with more caution since strong player.

Renata? You are at the very least gonna have to explain that one

POE of HK/Monty/Boq is very different from what I had.

I have seen Boq respond to pressure very poorly when wolf though, though who knows if that's AI all the time or mood dependent.

[Csargo]

i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming

I wouldn't be surprised if the claim was fake but i don't suspect either so meh

Pizza isn't cleared off that try again. It looks towny but I wouldn't go that far in a slot that should at least be looked at with more caution since strong player.

Renata? You are at the very least gonna have to explain that one

POE of HK/Monty/Boq is very different from what I had.

I have seen Boq respond to pressure very poorly when wolf though, though who knows if that's AI all the time or mood dependent.

it is

[Csargo]

and I got scared

[Csargo]

it is

fake just be clear.

[Askthepizzaguy]

it is

There was no basis for Visor doing it, and I already need doc protection if I succeed, so it was fake as soon as I saw it and your response was not a confirmation.

Visor is not doing much solving today and I'm inclined to want him dead.

[Renata]

I think I want to see Csargo either confirm or deny Visor's mason claim right about now. It's getting in the way of my reads of the Logic wagon.

[quote'i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming [/quote]

This, more or less.

[Renata]

It is fake?

Ok, if Ender is mafia then Visor is the save. It's not me and I don't think it's Cape.

[Csargo]

It is fake?

Ok, if Ender is mafia then Visor is the save. It's not me and I don't think it's Cape.

I am not a mason with visor.

[EnderWiggin]

I am not a mason with visor.

Well.

Lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

i wish all of this wasn't underwhelming

I wouldn't be surprised if the claim was fake but i don't suspect either so meh

Pizza isn't cleared off that try again. It looks towny but I wouldn't go that far in a slot that should at least be looked at with more caution since strong player.

Renata? You are at the very least gonna have to explain that one

POE of HK/Monty/Boq is very different from what I had.

I have seen Boq respond to pressure very poorly when wolf though, though who knows if that's AI all the time or mood dependent.

Why do you open this comment with saying it's underwhelming? How is a spattered reads list that I threw together to note my current state when I clearly had already said I was low on time make you think it's supposed to blow your socks off?

Pizza asked to be treated clear for 24 hours and then he would claim. I am agreeing to that. You don't have to. That invalidates your note there tho.

Renata D1 specifically did towny.

So Monty/HK are your partners? Good to know.

(Please tell me I'm not the only one that read this post and frowned.)

[Montmorency]

my meta has changed drastically since having Amy. You may want to check out some of my recent games.

Not "our" Amy. ?

3: My basis was built around how I felt like Logic was being uncomfortable in thread in a way that I thought fit with his wolf meta. I also thought he'd done a wolf tell with the way he occasionally popped in while others were doing things and then did like one post of fluff or low level interaction.

Logic usually vibes uncomfortable in the thread. But shit happens. How far did you consider self-pres onto Amy?

4: I don't know yet. I don't think wolves had a particularly strong reason to necessarily want Logic over me, and I'm going to be looking at my own wagon first for it. But if I were to point a direction I'd point at the subset of {Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata} - Gut wants to remove Vulgard but I am going to review that because Luvs had Vul as wolfy.

None of those players were on - wait, I'm furrowing my brow here. In this post you didn't rate the Logic wagon highly as a candidate for scum, preferring to look into your own wagon, yet the names you listed were all on the Logic wagon (minus Cape and Amp). And soon after pointing FOS at "Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata", you said "Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner." I'm just having trouble understanding.

it is

The claim is fake?

and I got scared

So Visor is the fake mason and you are the real mason? Whatta slip!
It's OK, I've already rewritten my leans list.
But hold up - if Visor fake-claimed mason after his D1, isn't that well into policy-oust territory?
And #963 feels more like approval than fear. Will have to defer judgement until Visor reappears.

Why do you open this comment with saying it's underwhelming? How is a spattered reads list that I threw together to note my current state when I clearly had already said I was low on time make you think it's supposed to blow your socks off?

Pizza asked to be treated clear for 24 hours and then he would claim. I am agreeing to that. You don't have to. That invalidates your note there tho.

Renata D1 specifically did towny.

Hold your horses.

(Please tell me I'm not the only one that read this post and frowned.)

My frown had a different object of regard.

[Montmorency]

Light TL
Csargo. Prefers romantic to fraternal relationships.
HK

Null
Cape: I need to evaluate his well-regarded D1 contributions, but for now high-null.
Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.
Taffy & Boquise: no idea. Null.
Kage: Pure null.
Vulgard: Sheeping Luv and Pizza on him to low-null.

Light SL
Amp
Renata
Visor [pending mason claim clarification]
Ender

Special
ATPG. Is your PR to suicide-bomb 3 of us? That would be a suitably-holy mission.

[EnderWiggin]

Light TL
Csargo. Prefers romantic to fraternal relationships.
HK

Null
Cape: I need to evaluate his well-regarded D1 contributions, but for now high-null.
Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.
Taffy & Boquise: no idea. Null.
Kage: Pure null.
Vulgard: Sheeping Luv and Pizza on him to low-null.

Light SL
Amp
Renata
Visor [pending mason claim clarification]
Ender

Special
ATPG. Is your PR to suicide-bomb 3 of us? That would be a suitably-holy mission.

The amount of nulls in this post is too damn high.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Light TL
Csargo. Prefers romantic to fraternal relationships.
HK

Null
Cape: I need to evaluate his well-regarded D1 contributions, but for now high-null.
Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.
Taffy & Boquise: no idea. Null.
Kage: Pure null.
Vulgard: Sheeping Luv and Pizza on him to low-null.

Light SL
Amp
Renata
Visor [pending mason claim clarification]
Ender

Special
ATPG. Is your PR to suicide-bomb 3 of us? That would be a suitably-holy mission.

Yes villager Monty, I explode today and kill others.

You being the last person to figure it out makes you town.

[Vulgard]

Yes villager Monty, I explode today and kill others.

You being the last person to figure it out makes you town.

???

[had to write more than ? because 3 character lower limit]

[EnderWiggin]

I feel like I'm in a weird world where Pizza's solving makes no sense to me. This isn't normally how it goes.

[Montmorency]

None of those players were on - wait, I'm furrowing my brow here. In this post you didn't rate the Logic wagon highly as a candidate for scum, preferring to look into your own wagon, yet the names you listed were all on the Logic wagon (minus Cape and Amp). And soon after pointing FOS at "Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata", you said "Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner." I'm just having trouble understanding.

Question = "Who do you think could be wolf on Logic wagon."

My response = "I don't think there is (Because I townread a lot of them) BUT IF I WERE TO PICK A NAME IT WOULD BE IN THIS SUBSET."

So, why not just say "Vulgard or Visor from Logic wagon?" Which is where you've been today anyway. And you want to get on my case for nulls...

Also Vulgard is too onside with my viewpoints to honestly be scum.

Ugh.

@Montmorency why was that your guess? any particular reason?

Vibes.

What lots of info will we learn with an Ender flip? @ladd

Lots. Wagonomics. D2 interactions.

Oh thinking is an emoji here lel

Emoticon.

Peeps be puzzling with pizza reads but none seems to have taken mich note of his scum lean on Renata tbh

I'm not good at reading, but last I saw he was townleaning her.

Part of me just wants to ignore everyone else and tunnel Monty + Amy and hope I'm right because I keep being pushed and pulled in different directions.

The best flips for gamestate would probably be flips among day 1 wagons. I don't think Amy has been towny and I'm also partial to the Ender wolfreads. If we have the game backwards and we need to start killing different people then we won't know until we flip in the d1 wagons.

I'd rather not kill Visor, at least not right now.

I don't believe Mafia want to tunnel me at this point, because I am still limbait and there are more dangerous players around for them to clash with. Therefore I don't believe more than two of the leading wagons can be scum (or maybe HK is the counterwagon). Prove me wrong if you wish, I'm still kind of hoping you drop dead at EOD.

I think Hollowkatt is just mafia.

Deec post but I haven't a strong enough command to rule on the content one way or another.

Yes villager Monty, I explode today and kill others.

You being the last person to figure it out makes you town.

I don't think I was anywhere near the last to figure it out, if judging only thread content, and this isn't a good point of discrimination anyway.

So what's the score on Pizza, then? He straight-up failed 2 or even 3 desperado shots? How is that even possible? Are we sure it's not delayed?

Almost makes me hesitate on sheeping on Visor over Ender, but oh well #Trusttheplan Vote: Visor

[Cape90]

I don't believe Mafia want to tunnel me at this point, because I am still limbait and there are more dangerous players around for them to clash with. Therefore I don't believe more than two of the leading wagons can be scum (or maybe HK is the counterwagon). Prove me wrong if you wish, I'm still kind of hoping you drop dead at EOD.

wouldn't this thought process be the other way around? I feel like if you are limbait, then mafia would want to push on you, that makes a lot of sense to me

[EnderWiggin]

Ladd & dyachei have rolled mafia in Org games I've - many of us have - played in. I don't remember any meta. Null.

Hindsight this post is hilarious for this line.

[EnderWiggin]

Logic usually vibes uncomfortable in the thread. But shit happens. How far did you consider self-pres onto Amy?

Not really at all. I don't yeet someone I townread because they're not me. I hope people understand my positions later. And then hope I'm not wrong.

None of those players were on - wait, I'm furrowing my brow here. In this post you didn't rate the Logic wagon highly as a candidate for scum, preferring to look into your own wagon, yet the names you listed were all on the Logic wagon (minus Cape and Amp). And soon after pointing FOS at "Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata", you said "Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner." I'm just having trouble understanding.

Question = "Who do you think could be wolf on Logic wagon."

My response = "I don't think there is (Because I townread a lot of them) BUT IF I WERE TO PICK A NAME IT WOULD BE IN THIS SUBSET."

Now next time read more closely if you're confused.

So Visor is the fake mason and you are the real mason? Whatta slip!
It's OK, I've already rewritten my leans list.
But hold up - if Visor fake-claimed mason after his D1, isn't that well into policy-oust territory?
And #963 feels more like approval than fear. Will have to defer judgement until Visor reappears.

What the hell is this post.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why do you open this comment with saying it's underwhelming? How is a spattered reads list that I threw together to note my current state when I clearly had already said I was low on time make you think it's supposed to blow your socks off?

Pizza asked to be treated clear for 24 hours and then he would claim. I am agreeing to that. You don't have to. That invalidates your note there tho.

Renata D1 specifically did towny.

So Monty/HK are your partners? Good to know.

(Please tell me I'm not the only one that read this post and frowned.)

How about you put some real effort into your solve as if you want to convince anyone at all that your solve is one you believe

For your whole day one you played with some level of confidence. To enter day two and suddenly have less confidence instead of more, doesn't make sense.

Don't you have MORE information now than you did on day one?

Don't you have a smaller pool of suspects?

As the counterwagon, you have a unique insight as to what the wolves probably did. I don't see you aggressively pursuing any suspect.

[EnderWiggin]

How about you put some real effort into your solve as if you want to convince anyone at all that your solve is one you believe

For your whole day one you played with some level of confidence. To enter day two and suddenly have less confidence instead of more, doesn't make sense.

Don't you have MORE information now than you did on day one?

Don't you have a smaller pool of suspects?

As the counterwagon, you have a unique insight as to what the wolves probably did. I don't see you aggressively pursuing any suspect.

It's almost like I confidently lead town to yeet...

A town.

Lmao.

I'm tiredly reading along but I couldn't let this go.