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Originally Posted by hollowkatt:
well yeah logic is dead town, you're obvs not going to say you're a wolf, and that leaves vulgard and taffy. Neither of which I'm remembering well or impressed by (which I guess is saying functionally the same thing)
Ender/Visor is a spicy solve and I could see that. I guess the big question is with a player list this stacked why did luv die first?
I don't feel like it's a fear kill, luv was an alt of someone that knows a lot of us and I don't particularly care who they are under the mask, but if someone did know it could turn into a fear kill.
Their reads list doesn't seem like a reason to die. could just be a weird kill to throw off the scent as well as getting rid of someone they were unlikely to get chopped during the day.
Given that even I have both of them in PoE I do not agree that there's anything spicy about that solve. I think the bolded is very sketchy reasoning, just because it doesn't matter to you who Spooge was doesn't mean it didn't matter to the wolves (unless you're one of them). And it's not a fear kill but it might have been? That's waffly.well yeah logic is dead town, you're obvs not going to say you're a wolf, and that leaves vulgard and taffy. Neither of which I'm remembering well or impressed by (which I guess is saying functionally the same thing)
Ender/Visor is a spicy solve and I could see that. I guess the big question is with a player list this stacked why did luv die first?
I don't feel like it's a fear kill, luv was an alt of someone that knows a lot of us and I don't particularly care who they are under the mask, but if someone did know it could turn into a fear kill.
Their reads list doesn't seem like a reason to die. could just be a weird kill to throw off the scent as well as getting rid of someone they were unlikely to get chopped during the day.
From my perspective, one of the most remarkable things about Spooge's reads list is that he had you as a top town, and even had called you obviously so. This is part of the reason you gave for voting him, you didn't feel you had done anything that warranted that. Great. But now you're explicitly not mentioning the option that wolves killed Spooge so it would be easier to push you today? When you were very much aware or his read and several people are scumreading you? That doesn't look town to me.
Renata even very helpfully sets you up for it (I hope I got these in the right order):
Originally Posted by Renata:
They did feel extremely obv town to me, but based on thread tone that doesn't seem to have been a wide-spread feeling. Not in writing anyway.
Please specify why you think their reads list wasn't a reason to die.
They did feel extremely obv town to me, but based on thread tone that doesn't seem to have been a wide-spread feeling. Not in writing anyway.
Please specify why you think their reads list wasn't a reason to die.
Originally Posted by hollowkatt:
if he was right locking those reads into place with people who, if town, are smart enough to start with the list and start pressing then he's worked hard to clear a few people who are chops the wolf team would like to get, and impugned people the wolf team would like to keep safe.
I guess it would have to come down to whether or not the wolf team thinks they could out play his list, or if they kept him alive, outplay him. I tend to think if you have a player who's right, and is hard to eliminate that you want to work to mitigate them not enshrine their reads for perpetuity.
if he was right locking those reads into place with people who, if town, are smart enough to start with the list and start pressing then he's worked hard to clear a few people who are chops the wolf team would like to get, and impugned people the wolf team would like to keep safe.
I guess it would have to come down to whether or not the wolf team thinks they could out play his list, or if they kept him alive, outplay him. I tend to think if you have a player who's right, and is hard to eliminate that you want to work to mitigate them not enshrine their reads for perpetuity.
Originally Posted by Renata:
It usually seems to work the other way. Gone is forgotten.
It usually seems to work the other way. Gone is forgotten.
Originally Posted by hollowkatt:
except that here it is not and the reason is that we're all highly skilled players who aren't going to forget about the recently dead. Come 3-4 days from now if we're still playing then sure but I don't know of anyone who would ignore the most recent NK reads list.
Look at how you're both dancing around this conclusion without mentioning it outright. To me this looks like wolves killed the player hard townreading one of them and are now hoping town will sheep that read.except that here it is not and the reason is that we're all highly skilled players who aren't going to forget about the recently dead. Come 3-4 days from now if we're still playing then sure but I don't know of anyone who would ignore the most recent NK reads list.
Vote: Hollowkatt
I do not believe in antagonising my scumreads, you are a great person who I would love to play with again in the future.
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