Casual december game

[dyachei]

fwiw, I'd be up for an hk elim, too

[Vulgard]

I can hardconfirm myself tomorrow and wolves shouldn't be able to stop it unless they have a very unusual role.

[Visor]

fwiw, I'd be up for an hk elim, too

the only thing that is really givin gme pause is cape and spooges meta read on hkatt atm

i guess thoughts on cape aorn?

[dyachei]

the only thing that is really givin gme pause is cape and spooges meta read on hkatt atm

i guess thoughts on cape aorn?

cape is still one of my top towns

[Vulgard]

I find it difficult to backread in this environment which is why my reads keep changing. Somebody comes in with new information and I find it reasonable and I change my view.

Like Visor now. Visor, what do you think about Amy? I had a case earlier, I'll pull it up in a moment.

[Vulgard]

You give no real reads in that post. Everything has a conditional.

Your townreads on Renata/Visor/Pizza only apply if Ender isn't V, because if Ender is V then "the game is hard" or whatever. Funnily enough, your catch-up post also doesn't contain any attempts to solve Ender.

You have a townread on Montmorency, but you pass it off to Visor for a "sanity check," implying you don't really believe in it and want Visor (or another townie) to back you up.

You have a V read on ladd, but that one looks contrived (it makes a lot of assumptions about whether or not he would be pushing certain people) and you immediately undermine it by saying you are bad at reading ladd.

You "don't want to re-evaluate your Cape townread," but you also don't... say what the read is. Admittedly, I could go back to verify myself, but it'd just be a pain.

You say that my thoughts are hitting your brain in a weird way and you have no alignment read on me as a result. ...Okay, I guess. Then you immediately vote me because I accused you? You ask me a question, but before I even answer it, you just vote me. Guess me voting you immediately cleared everything up and I am a wolf now?

You have no wolfreads. All you offer is a vague group of four people and a statement that "you would be surprised if there isn't a wolf in there." Then you say the group could potentially be larger. So really, even that group isn't something you're constructing to solve the game, it's not even a PoE, it's just a broad stroke you're painting a huge number of players with.

You then ask Ender if he would like you to re-evaluate some of your reads. ...What reads? You have none that you truly believe. All of them are conditional. The question seems fake. This tracks with your idea that the game is difficult if Ender is town, and therefore your reads might be wrong, but you don't have any strong reads in the first place, or at least not ones that are substantiated in the slightest. I don't know how you're town and this is the question you ask Ender. You have no strong reads, this looks more like you feel obligated to engage with Ender. The end of your catch-up post even implies that you already believe that Ender will flip today either way:



You don't say this if you don't think Ender flips today. So.

That's why I wolfread your catch-up posts.

Here.

[Visor]

Here.

i agree with you fwiw lol

i havent played with amy in a hot minute and she wasnt really in a good headspace for some of those games, so my beliefs could be off but i thought this was a reasonable post when i saw it lol (this is the post i mentioned above to dya)

[Visor]

i think we should be killing outside of vlgard ender and me (no bias, honest)

if you cant confirm yourself tomorrows (esp with what i think ur saying)

then we can just kill you

but otherwise i think we should be killin gOUTSIDE that group

[Vulgard]

if you cant confirm yourself tomorrows (esp with what i think ur saying)

then we can just kill you

Yes, do this. Wolves have to kill me or I hardconfirm myself. Like I said, I don't think most setups would have a role that can stop me from confirming.

[Visor]

vulgard ,all three of u me and ender are v

where are you looking to

who is suspect in this world to you

can you pelase talk to me about ladd and taffy?

[Vulgard]

vulgard ,all three of u me and ender are v

where are you looking to

who is suspect in this world to you

can you pelase talk to me about ladd and taffy?

I think Amy is likely a wolf in that world. Amy's approach to Ender is an approach of not trying to solve him at all while still expecting him to flip. It's also possible that ladd is a wolf by association in that world because Amy's townread on him is extremely contrived. I had a V/V read on you/ladd and I've gone back and forth on who among you was actually town and who wasn't but rn I'd just like to flip Amy and go from there I think.

I also haven't really dropped my suspicion on Monty but that one feels like a less likely hit. Kagemusha I feel like is off in his own world, his posting looked a bit like busywork but I admittedly haven't given it a very close look.

Taffy I honestly had a very likely villager, someone who would need to have a sick wolfgame in order to be a wolf. Which could be possible and I could be getting snowed. But her and Renata's posts I've found sharp and pointed and that's the type of thing wolves usually don't have. I also feel like these two are genuinely pursuing their reads, most importantly Taffy's push on HK and Renata's suspicion of me (when she correctly figured out I was lying).

[Cape90]

i think we should be killing outside of vlgard ender and me (no bias, honest)

if you cant confirm yourself tomorrows (esp with what i think ur saying)

then we can just kill you

but otherwise i think we should be killin gOUTSIDE that group

me agree

[Cape90]

sigh willage

[Cape90]

kage is right there

it's not hard

[EnderWiggin]

me agree

This was to Visor saying that Me/Vul/Visor was v/v/v

Might have been killed just because he was the only one peddling that.