Casual december game

[ladd]

reskimming monty iso mega quick i could also see him being a wolf

kinda weird him/kage have got so little heat considering they'd be the 2 easiest target (no offense)

i liked a couple of minor points from monty but really nothing i care to hang onto when there is so many villagery people

[ladd]

alrighty thats all from me

i'll try to pop in for eod

i think visor is right regardless of alignment that we gotta talk about rest of players too

[ladd]

i still don't get how visor could possibly think i am overexplaining stuff this game

i feel i have never explained so little lol i almost feel guilty for it

[Renata]

reskimming monty iso mega quick i could also see him being a wolf

kinda weird him/kage have got so little heat considering they'd be the 2 easiest target (no offense)

i liked a couple of minor points from monty but really nothing i care to hang onto when there is so many villagery people

This is true. I kind of don't trust gamestate reads even when I have them so I'm going to stop there.

[Boquise]

reskimming monty iso mega quick i could also see him being a wolf

kinda weird him/kage have got so little heat considering they'd be the 2 easiest target (no offense)

i liked a couple of minor points from monty but really nothing i care to hang onto when there is so many villagery people

a random ladd post i found tbh

town's being wagoned
i guess one could throw in some scum mates name here for distancing
at the same time, kinda unnecessary when scum have control of the thread atp

[Renata]

a random ladd post i found tbh

town's being wagoned
i guess one could throw in some scum mates name here for distancing
at the same time, kinda unnecessary when scum have control of the thread atp

Very unnecessary. At the same time,

Boquise, Monty, Csargo, Taffy, Kage, Hollowkatt, Ender

I have, or have had at some point in the game, fairly confident town reads on everybody here except for Kage. Somebody is scum despite posting well. I'd rather not have to believe it's two.

[Renata]

@Boquise

question two posts up

[Boquise]

Very unnecessary. At the same time,

Boquise, Monty, Csargo, Taffy, Kage, Hollowkatt, Ender

I have, or have had at some point in the game, fairly confident town reads on everybody here except for Kage. Somebody is scum despite posting well. I'd rather not have to believe it's two.

hmmm

[Boquise]

have you been reading anything Kage?

[Boquise]

reskimming monty iso mega quick i could also see him being a wolf

kinda weird him/kage have got so little heat considering they'd be the 2 easiest target (no offense)

i liked a couple of minor points from monty but really nothing i care to hang onto when there is so many villagery people

this is ladd popping in to shade two unflipped players randomly
the wagons are ender vs visor

and like my usual way to read this is that it is unlikely to write about teammates like this when the wagons are like how they are, kinda unnecessary, but it also doesnt really cost anything as we can see by how the thread does not move to kage/monty - so it is free distancing.

[hollowkatt]

this is ladd popping in to shade two unflipped players randomly
the wagons are ender vs visor

and like my usual way to read this is that it is unlikely to write about teammates like this when the wagons are like how they are, kinda unnecessary, but it also doesnt really cost anything as we can see by how the thread does not move to kage/monty - so it is free distancing.

I think my biggest fear is we're trying to chase down basically LHF so either we're right or there's a wolf in the town bucket and I don't want there to be a wolf in the town bucket.

[EnderWiggin]

Awake for EOD. I dunno how coherent I'm gonna be because I'm tired/sick but I'll give it a fair shake.

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Kage

The fact that both Csargo and Kage were okay with POEing the other two lhf makes me feel like there's 100% not 2 in there.

[hollowkatt]

i'm just gonna sheep ender
vote: kage

[Raskolnikov]

Kagemusha (3): Csargo, ENder, HK
Amy (2): Monty, , Boquise
Csargo (1): Kagemusha

EOD in 3 minutes

[EnderWiggin]

reskimming monty iso mega quick i could also see him being a wolf

kinda weird him/kage have got so little heat considering they'd be the 2 easiest target (no offense)

i liked a couple of minor points from monty but really nothing i care to hang onto when there is so many villagery people

Ladd posting this about 2 wolves unprompted is a bit much imo.

[hollowkatt]

Ladd posting this about 2 wolves unprompted is a bit much imo.

there's been a bit of a bit much tho

[Montmorency]

First, thanks for carrying yday.

Mafia being real pricks with the kills lately. Why would you ever even kill Amy, she?s perfect lurkbait for storming LYLO with.

No one here seems to believe it?s Boq, whose case I?ve laid out. Certainly though I can?t see him killing Amy solo when clearing her looks so bad for him. But who would really? Not even a wacky deep-sea m-Ender should see advantage to it.

Csargo has had few good posts, and that terrible, terrible case on Renata, while Boq has made a mid-game effort to post well, second after me. However, he has so many hateful associatives with ladd and dya, Patric. How they were all bouncing off each other on Amy and Vulgard, whereas Csargo's few associatives lean heavily anti-pair rather than pair. Either of them could easily be partners with Csargo. If it?s Csargo, he and Kage spent the past two days engaged in Level 1 distancing.

I will have more opportunity tomorrow.

[hollowkatt]

First, thanks for carrying yday.

Mafia being real pricks with the kills lately. Why would you ever even kill Amy, she?s perfect lurkbait for storming LYLO with.

No one here seems to believe it?s Boq, whose case I?ve laid out. Certainly though I can?t see him killing Amy solo when clearing her looks so bad for him. But who would really? Not even a wacky deep-sea m-Ender should see advantage to it.

Csargo has had few good posts, and that terrible, terrible case on Renata, while Boq has made a mid-game effort to post well, second after me. However, he has so many hateful associatives with ladd and dya, Patric. How they were all bouncing off each other on Amy and Vulgard, whereas Csargo's few associatives lean heavily anti-pair rather than pair. Either of them could easily be partners with Csargo. If it?s Csargo, he and Kage spent the past two days engaged in Level 1 distancing.

I will have more opportunity tomorrow.

if I had to take a guess it would be b/c kage voted amy after the deadline passed and raskol closed the day. Like ok timestamp reads or something but Rask posts the vote count at EOD-3 minutes. Calls D5 over at 7:01pm eastern time.
Kage votes Amy at 7:03 eastern. That's enough of a time gap to basically lock the last wolf into killing Amy b/c they can't use her as a chop after that.

[hollowkatt]

also monty rumbling in with that take cements my thinking that myself, ender, and monty are just town.
it's somewhere between boq and csargo

[Csargo]

I don't think you take me into a lylo situation tbh.

I don't think it's Boq. Don't think it's hk. It's unlikely to be ender.

[Csargo]

Vote:Monty

[Boquise]

also monty rumbling in with that take cements my thinking that myself, ender, and monty are just town.
it's somewhere between boq and csargo

why does csargo vote kage there when we could easily have misyeeted Amy?

[Montmorency]

First, thanks for carrying yday.

Mafia being real pricks with the kills lately. Why would you ever even kill Amy, she?s perfect lurkbait for storming LYLO with.

No one here seems to believe it?s Boq, whose case I?ve laid out. Certainly though I can?t see him killing Amy solo when clearing her looks so bad for him. But who would really? Not even a wacky deep-sea m-Ender should see advantage to it.

Csargo has had few good posts, and that terrible, terrible case on Renata, while Boq has made a mid-game effort to post well, second after me. However, he has so many hateful associatives with ladd and dya, Patric. How they were all bouncing off each other on Amy and Vulgard, whereas Csargo's few associatives lean heavily anti-pair rather than pair. Either of them could easily be partners with Csargo. If it?s Csargo, he and Kage spent the past two days engaged in Level 1 distancing.

I will have more opportunity tomorrow.

This is why I detest mobile-posting. My post contains some autocorrect or deletion errors.

"Either of [ladd, dya] could easily be partners with [Boq]"

I don't know what "Patric" was supposed to mean.

if I had to take a guess it would be b/c kage voted amy after the deadline passed and raskol closed the day. Like ok timestamp reads or something but Rask posts the vote count at EOD-3 minutes. Calls D5 over at 7:01pm eastern time.
Kage votes Amy at 7:03 eastern. That's enough of a time gap to basically lock the last wolf into killing Amy b/c they can't use her as a chop after that.

If both you and Ender say it's so, there must be something to that, but if it's Boq he should have taken her to LYLO with Csargo. Something to ask Kage about too.

@Montmorency
why is it that Taffy town hurts Csargo and is this something you still think?

Super-basic negative credit for trying to make Taffy a counterwagon to dya on D3.

Dya (3): Ender, Vulgard, Renata
Taffy (1): Monty < Monty(1): HK
Kage (1): Amy
HK (1): Kagemusha

I already covered D3 analysis: while it's a bad look, this was near EOD, and if scum Csargo presumably would have known whether or not dya and Kage would be available and willing to try to push the Tdome for a rescue.

It's worse for Csargo that Renata N4 when she was IIRC the only player pressuring him (other than Amp and Kage), but even there Renata was pressuring Boq most of all, arguably more than I was.

like i am okay with dying but if HK and Ender will then in lylo just sleep walk into a Csargo yeet when he was one of the three players yeeting Kage I wont die quietly. It will be total war in the thread tbh

Why was Kage voting Csargo with no case or hope of building a wagon twice in a row midgame? Or in other words, if you are town, and I am town, who could the final maf possibly be?

ngl Csargo's slanking, and gradual dip/passivity, make him look much worse than you in a vacuum. And it is tough to see your strategy in NKing Amy when you could just pit Csargo or Ender against her during LYLO. Kage's late vote could be written off as potato rolling.

Whereas Csargo's play so far in mid-game, at least, is consistent with standard maf strategy (non-power).

I'll roll out interactions again later and see what comes of it.

[Montmorency]

Super-basic negative credit for trying to make Taffy a counterwagon to dya on D3.

Dya (3): Ender, Vulgard, Renata
Taffy (1): Monty << Csargo
Kage (1): Amy
HK (1): Kagemusha

Copy-paste failure

EBWOP

[Boquise]

the problem with csargo wolf is that then he played like a standard wolf with a very basic plan with very little fall-throughs, given how him and kage voted each other. It is very level 1. Again, I have not played with Csargo before and if he is bad at being a wolf, then sure, lets go. But thinking that there is no intellectual foresight behind a wolf's play is how we misyeet town.

[Boquise]

First, thanks for carrying yday.

Mafia being real pricks with the kills lately. Why would you ever even kill Amy, she?s perfect lurkbait for storming LYLO with.

No one here seems to believe it?s Boq, whose case I?ve laid out. Certainly though I can?t see him killing Amy solo when clearing her looks so bad for him. But who would really? Not even a wacky deep-sea m-Ender should see advantage to it.

Csargo has had few good posts, and that terrible, terrible case on Renata, while Boq has made a mid-game effort to post well, second after me. However, he has so many hateful associatives with ladd and dya, Patric. How they were all bouncing off each other on Amy and Vulgard, whereas Csargo's few associatives lean heavily anti-pair rather than pair. Either of them could easily be partners with Csargo. If it?s Csargo, he and Kage spent the past two days engaged in Level 1 distancing.

I will have more opportunity tomorrow.

based on last eod: csargo, ender and hk all clear
Vote Monty
we have two yeets left and thankfully scum can only be within us two, so even if I die today you'll go down tomorrow tbh