Casual december game

[Boquise]

that wagon also spews Ender town again imo tbh

[Boquise]

Nothing to read ladd off and dya meh

Lol

@Visor
You were so close to become god here tbh

[Boquise]

i wish I could explain why amy's tone is villagery to me in a way that makes sense to other people. bUt she's just kind of carefree here and i dont think she's putting pressure on herself to perform

this is the part that made me think Dya and Amy are paired
The wagons are Ender vs Logic
They pop in to defend Amy who is a wagon that might be taking off.
hm.

[Boquise]

dya probably shields me as either alignment here but i think she puts more effort into the read if they're wolfing here, cause i think they know i'd get pocketed by a well-reasoned and thoroughly explained defense of me

and yes, i am aware of the irony inherent to me townreading them for this

and Amy's response was to town read Dya back without a fuzz
mmh

[Boquise]

I didn't like when renata did that to logic

yet dya never reacted to it nor voted renata for it

[Boquise]

I didn't want o have to do it this way, but very well.

Vote: Amp

Monty/Amy are unpaired as wolves.
Only minutes away, the top wagons have been Logic vs Ender, and Monty breaks that and pushes Amy into yeet zone tbh

[Boquise]

hey visor whats your read on hk?

wolf dya asks town visor to ask about random player x minutes away from eod.
This comes out from nowhere.
"hey i am a wolf and now i will bring up my teammate out of nowhere as the wagons are moving"

nah.

[hollowkatt]

I think Monty is town.

I would like some people to read what I wrote about monty and tell me why I'm wrong or why I shouldn't be concerned. I think I've raised some decent points in the last couple of pages that should at least be recognized as existing even if only to say "HK ur dumb"

[hollowkatt]

well the thing is that looking at singular posts without context, then stuff changes tbh. So thats why I wanted to point it out. I agree that the post alone looks bad, at the same time... I have no tmi. Sometimes I will misclear wolves. It happens tbh

cries in Katze induced PTSD

[hollowkatt]

idk about renata. Her way to push me is very bad, but i am more used to town pushing me like this than scum. Scum normally tries to fake effort cases on me tbh

also what do you think of my reason to unpair Kage with ladd? No one has said anything about it which indicates to me that I am correct and that I am currently robbing scum from a lhf yeet.

even if you're wrong I like this way of thinking, very viby

[Renata]

idk about renata. Her way to push me is very bad, but i am more used to town pushing me like this than scum. Scum normally tries to fake effort cases on me tbh

also what do you think of my reason to unpair Kage with ladd? No one has said anything about it which indicates to me that I am correct and that I am currently robbing scum from a lhf yeet.

You've been pushing a dubious linkage between Amy and Dya the entire game that suits scum-you incredibly well provided either of them is scum, and your day one interactions with Dyachei sums up to "light scum read/oh wait now they're lean town". Like, I get it that town changes their reads. I do it constantly. But usually when I call somebody out on that shit they have something to say about why they changed their mind. They have a thought process they can return to, and explain what they were thinking at each point. It's a good way to find town.

You? You're not acting findable. You just say 'nah' and proceed to try to discredit my ideas with Hollowkatt in the same breath as you admit you're not actually putting me as scum yourself.

[Renata]

yet dya never reacted to it nor voted renata for it

I've been saying it the whole game. Dya pushes me when they are town. They don't do it as scum. They know they can't stand up to my OMGUS.

Literally the only thing that kept me from pushing Dyachei hard from day two was the assurances of the entire thread that they're different now. Evidently they're not.

[Boquise]

Ender (4): Ladd, Csargo, dyachei, Logic
Ampharos (4): Boquise, Visor, Renata, Montmo
Logic (4): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Taffy
Luv2spooge (1): HK
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Ladd (1): luv2spooge

EOD in 8 minutes.

csargo unlikely wolf due to the wagons. Ender unlikely wolf due to being voted by two wolves 8 minutes until eod.
If Amy wolf, renata and monty are cleared.
If Amy town, renata and monty scum equity rising.
There is a possibility that the whole wagon is town there but I do not think that BOTH Amy's and Logic's wagons are pure.

That means at least 1 of Amy and Taffy is a wolf. There is a chance that wolves commit 2 wolves on 2 wagons, which is I think what happens if Amy is a wolf. But gun to the head my gut says that only the Ender wagon consists of 2 wolves tbh.

If I go with my reads, I think HK is town. I have not decided yet if Kage IS town but I feel like ladd's way to handle my push makes him likely town. That would mean that all wolves are on wagon. We'll see if my thoughts change as I go down the rabbit hole.

This would mean that 1 of Monty/Renata is a wolf
I think both have been townie however so that is annoying tbh

[Renata]

I would like some people to read what I wrote about monty and tell me why I'm wrong or why I shouldn't be concerned. I think I've raised some decent points in the last couple of pages that should at least be recognized as existing even if only to say "HK ur dumb"

@ me with post numbers, I'll go back and look.

[Boquise]

You've been pushing a dubious linkage between Amy and Dya the entire game that suits scum-you incredibly well provided either of them is scum, and your day one interactions with Dyachei sums up to "light scum read/oh wait now they're lean town". Like, I get it that town changes their reads. I do it constantly. But usually when I call somebody out on that shit they have something to say about why they changed their mind. They have a thought process they can return to, and explain what they were thinking at each point. It's a good way to find town.

You? You're not acting findable. You just say 'nah' and proceed to try to discredit my ideas with Hollowkatt in the same breath as you admit you're not actually putting me as scum yourself.

Dont act like you asked for my thought process there. You said "your d1 progression was terrible". A bad post gets a non-effort reply.

If someone sounds town to me on D1, I will most likely just say that they are town. My D1 reads are usually casual and I wont invent up reasons only because that fits the norm on How You Should Play 101. My progression on Dya, Amy, and all my reads for the matter, are played with open cards. So I am findable, you're just having some skill issue rn tbh


And yes I will discredit the quality of your push by pointing out that you are focusing on my lhf posts instead of trying to chug into my larger one. I will discredit you if all you come with is "your push is terrible".

[Boquise]

cries in Katze induced PTSD

I saw that Logic town read Dya without giving much reasoning except "this looks like town Dya"
Guess Logic was a wolf tbh

[Renata]

csargo unlikely wolf due to the wagons. Ender unlikely wolf due to being voted by two wolves 8 minutes until eod.
If Amy wolf, renata and monty are cleared.
If Amy town, renata and monty scum equity rising.
There is a possibility that the whole wagon is town there but I do not think that BOTH Amy's and Logic's wagons are pure.

That means at least 1 of Amy and Taffy is a wolf. There is a chance that wolves commit 2 wolves on 2 wagons, which is I think what happens if Amy is a wolf. But gun to the head my gut says that only the Ender wagon consists of 2 wolves tbh.

If I go with my reads, I think HK is town. I have not decided yet if Kage IS town but I feel like ladd's way to handle my push makes him likely town. That would mean that all wolves are on wagon. We'll see if my thoughts change as I go down the rabbit hole.

This would mean that 1 of Monty/Renata is a wolf
I think both have been townie however so that is annoying tbh

I'm sure it's very annoying.

[Renata]

I saw that Logic town read Dya without giving much reasoning except "this looks like town Dya"
Guess Logic was a wolf tbh

Nah. Logic in retrospect was pretty pure with his comments to/about Dyachei. He asked them one really good alignment-seeking question even. Amy similar, Csargo VERY similar. I don't think Csargo and Dyachei are paired.

The obvious exceptions from day one are Ladd (mostly from Dyachei's side) and you (from yours).

[Boquise]

csargo unlikely wolf due to the wagons. Ender unlikely wolf due to being voted by two wolves 8 minutes until eod.
If Amy wolf, renata and monty are cleared.
If Amy town, renata and monty scum equity rising.
There is a possibility that the whole wagon is town there but I do not think that BOTH Amy's and Logic's wagons are pure.

That means at least 1 of Amy and Taffy is a wolf. There is a chance that wolves commit 2 wolves on 2 wagons, which is I think what happens if Amy is a wolf. But gun to the head my gut says that only the Ender wagon consists of 2 wolves tbh.

If I go with my reads, I think HK is town. I have not decided yet if Kage IS town but I feel like ladd's way to handle my push makes him likely town. That would mean that all wolves are on wagon. We'll see if my thoughts change as I go down the rabbit hole.

This would mean that 1 of Monty/Renata is a wolf
I think both have been townie however so that is annoying tbh

So building on this:
I have previously unpaired Amy and Monty.
And in the post I am quoting, I am unpairing Amy with Renata (tho I know I have to resume reading the last 8 minutes so maybe I should shut up but no tbh).

That means, Amy can only be a wolf with Csargo, Taffy, HK, Kage.
Amy has tried to yeet Kage. Unpaired.

Csargo, Taffy, HK.

I am town reading HK pretty strongly.

Csargo, Taffy.

I think Csargo is town due to ladd and Dya already being on Ender. HOWEVER I can see why wolves would commit 3 wolves on 1 town wagon in hopes to save Amy, but that doesnt fit the timeline of votes (and Amy's wagon rising in votes). It also doesnt fit with occam's razors. Ladd and Dya are competent wolves. Idk who Csargo is, but he seems to be competent as a player. It is better to have at least 1 more wolf on the other town wagon (Logic). Otherwise wolves are boxed in. This makes Csargo also unlikely.

So based on process of elimination, if Amy is a wolf, she can only be with Taffy.
Which would make the wagons Town vs Scum vs Town. With 2 wolves on each town wagon.

Lets see what transpires in the last 8 minutes tbh

[Boquise]

I'm sure it's very annoying.

it is indeed annoying that the puzzle pieces dont quite fit since that hints at an error in my reasoning.
Now are you going to be useful or snarky?

[Boquise]

Nah. Logic in retrospect was pretty pure with his comments to/about Dyachei. He asked them one really good alignment-seeking question even. Amy similar, Csargo VERY similar. I don't think Csargo and Dyachei are paired.

The obvious exceptions from day one are Ladd (mostly from Dyachei's side) and you (from yours).

I see, that post must have escaped me entirely.

You complain about me not giving any reasoning and just writing "nah" to your claim, but can you instead of shading me and trying to sell a narrative quote my Dya post you have issues with?

[Boquise]

No, I think I'm just going to switch back and leave it there. GTH you have a bigger chance of being a tonal misread than Logic does.

vote: Logic

dundunduuuuuuun

[Boquise]

Logic (6): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata

This wagon contains wolves.

With 2 out of 6 flipping town, I too think there is a likelihood for it tbh

[Boquise]

TMI the movie?

But no, you're probably right.

Not advanced

funny self-aware reactions to pizza's call-out tbh?

[Boquise]

gosh renata, your eod is pretty wolfy tbh

[Csargo]

I would like some people to read what I wrote about monty and tell me why I'm wrong or why I shouldn't be concerned. I think I've raised some decent points in the last couple of pages that should at least be recognized as existing even if only to say "HK ur dumb"

I don't know why you're concerned. If it's D1/2 are more important than post-ladd flip, I just don't think that's how Monty reads the game.

[Renata]

Boquise in reference to Dyachei on day one.

i gift you a weak scum lean tbh

i am returning my gift to dya tbh

it is a sort of contribution i have seen wolves do tbh

You are probably town for keep driving this point when i have even before this discussion happened walked back on the FoS tbh

Then there is the reads post where Dyachei is 2nd of 4 town leans with three townies or probable townies, can't remember who exactly was in it anymore. That's literally it. Tell me what "walking back" you're referring to. Why did you let Dyachei off the hook. What is "towny" about responding to somebody twice. Let me see your brains.


(Also lol

Wolf Boq is nothing if not aggro at defending himself from accurate suspicion.

)

[Boquise]

This whole conversation feels like the two of you got together in wolf chat and decided to stage a push on somebody to save Visor's butt from getting crisped.

either open wolfing or spewed town tbh

dya's response is just a "lol"
so I am leaning at the latter tbh

[Renata]

gosh renata, your eod is pretty wolfy tbh

Day one? Yeah that's what happens when I roll up two hours before EoD and try to catch up out of sequence. I have no idea what I'm doing and it shows. I felt like the only options I had were to read through the isos of the top wagons quickly. I came up with Logic>Amy>Ender and stuck with that.

[Boquise]

Boquise in reference to Dyachei on day one.









Then there is the reads post where Dyachei is 2nd of 4 town leans with three townies or probable townies, can't remember who exactly was in it anymore. That's literally it. Tell me what "walking back" you're referring to. Why did you let Dyachei off the hook. What is "towny" about responding to somebody twice. Let me see your brains.


(Also lol )

why is "You are probably town for keep driving this point when i have even before this discussion happened walked back on the FoS tbh" terrible?

in my experience, dya ignoring me walking back the scum read to just keep pursuing and arguing with me is something they'd do more often as town than scum. It is both them scum hunting me and them trying to stomp down a suspicion. Looks like I need to change my way to read dya tbh

I think I began walking it back after I had read up and seen Dya have similar thought process about Logic. As in, "I think Logic is wolfy, but I always think so". Why are you ignoring mine and Dya's back and forth where I actually talk to them about what I found wolfy with their post? It literally isn't it tbh

it's way too early in the game for the amount of wall posts I've seen

i gift you a weak scum lean tbh

ok

my hatred of wallposts isn't AI though

it is a sort of contribution i have seen wolves do tbh

You've seen villagers do it, too

yes but in general it is wolfy to whine about walls and do nothing else tbh because it is a super easy thing to do whilst you stay relevant in the thread conscious.

I'm not doing nothing else though?

We also have that time when Dya tried to make me not unpair Vulgard and Pizza and a short conversation happened:

pizza has a point though that vulgard's annoyance does not match with the amount of pushback they have received at this point though
unpairing you both tbh

eh, i know that I get more annoyed than people expect sometimes. Like that seems like a super subjective thing to rate

i am pretty sure cape is town tbh


i too get annoyed more than people expect, but i also think it is wolf indicative in a vacuum to get annoyed out of proportations. It is subjective and when Vulgard wrote more of his poe i felt like rescinding tbh

You are at the end of your post insinuating that I am being aggro. I think you are confbiasing yourself on that one, because I have been pretty free-flowy tbh. I cant really see any aggression tbh