Casual december game

[Boquise]

as i skim back and stuff i realised another reason why monty should be town - he tried to remedy things between renata and me by showing her how i did have a clear progression with dyachei

and like, why try make two townies stop fighting if you are scum?

[Boquise]

@hollowkatt i am willing to vote either amy or kage. If I have been wrong on Csargo and he is a wolf, 1 of those should be a wolf too. If I have been correct on Csargo being town, 1 of those should be a wolf still.

[Boquise]

Shit.

Yesterday's ouster carries no alignment information, for obvious gamestate reasons, though it hurts Csargo a single pip if Taffy is town.

If I had to clear Csargo atm the sole available factor would be the D1 secondary wagon (Ender) containing ladd, dya, Csargo, Monty, Logic; <10% chance of 3/4 maf piling onto a secondary wagon among t/t wagons on D1. From meta, Csargo specifically I feel would be self-conscious enough not to wagon in that manner. This is enough to give Csargo a pass for a couple days.

I've tried skimming through D1 and it seems I previously misunderstood dya's relationship with Amp. I can't clear her. But we'll see what comes of it when I make a more thorough examination.

One other point in her favor would be the D2 tally. There should at the very minimum be one scum on Visor - I refuse to believe there isn't - but even two is likely



One thing I dislike about Taffy's D3 is her gesturing at teams like dya-Ender-Kage (even if she reassessed Ender under opposition), when ofc a POE like that would guarantee Mafia victory. Not having to NK Ender, and if Kage town, well, that's almost a necessary ML for Mafia. But Rule of Three in ladd's defenses works in her favor, for whatever that's worth.

Vote: Taffy should be part of today's agenda. If you want Kage or Amy you're going to need an affirmative case, a slam-dunk interaction or slip.


Possible teams (excluding Renata, Csargo):

Kage-Amp
Kage-Csargo
Kage-Taffy
Kage-Boq
Kage-HK
Kage-Renata
Renata-Amp
Renata-HK
Renata-Taffy
Renata-Csargo
Renata-Boq
Boq-Amp
Boq-Csargo
Boq-Taffy
Boq-HK
HK-Csargo
HK-Taffy
HK-Amp
Amp-Taffy
Amp-Csargo
Csargo-Taffy

@Montmorency
why is it that Taffy town hurts Csargo and is this something you still think?

[Kagemusha]

what do you mean like monty yesterday @Kagemusha

@Boquise Sorry, English is not my native language, so sometimes my sentences can be quite confusing. What i mean is that yesterday Csargo was using Monty?s reasoning for his voting. Hiding behind it. Earlier he was using Visor?s reasoning, which enabled him to fly under the radar, since the decision making process is not his own. You can find my reasoning from post #2508 where im placing you at that scale based on your voting behaviour concerning Dya?s lynch.

[Boquise]

Very unnecessary. At the same time,

Boquise, Monty, Csargo, Taffy, Kage, Hollowkatt, Ender

I have, or have had at some point in the game, fairly confident town reads on everybody here except for Kage. Somebody is scum despite posting well. I'd rather not have to believe it's two.

hmmm

[Boquise]

@Boquise Sorry, English is not my native language, so sometimes my sentences can be quite confusing. What i mean is that yesterday Csargo was using Monty?s reasoning for his voting. Hiding behind it. Earlier he was using Visor?s reasoning, which enabled him to fly under the radar, since the decision making process is not his own. You can find my reasoning from post #2508 where im placing you at that scale based on your voting behaviour concerning Dya?s lynch.

mmmh alright, thanks tbh

[Boquise]

have you been reading anything Kage?

[Boquise]

reskimming monty iso mega quick i could also see him being a wolf

kinda weird him/kage have got so little heat considering they'd be the 2 easiest target (no offense)

i liked a couple of minor points from monty but really nothing i care to hang onto when there is so many villagery people

this is ladd popping in to shade two unflipped players randomly
the wagons are ender vs visor

and like my usual way to read this is that it is unlikely to write about teammates like this when the wagons are like how they are, kinda unnecessary, but it also doesnt really cost anything as we can see by how the thread does not move to kage/monty - so it is free distancing.

[Boquise]

EOD1, final tally:

Logic (7): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata, Cape
Ender (5): Ladd, Csargo, dyachei, Logic , monty
Ampharos (2): Boquise, ATPG
Luv2spooge (1): HK
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Ladd (1): luv2spooge

Logic has been chopped! He was vanilla town!

Start of day 2 in roughly 24 hours. (7 PM EST)

do i really wanna believe that the whole logic wagon was pure lol

[Boquise]

EOD1, final tally:

Logic (7): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata, Cape
Ender (5): Ladd, Csargo, dyachei, Logic , monty
Ampharos (2): Boquise, ATPG
Luv2spooge (1): HK
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Ladd (1): luv2spooge

Logic has been chopped! He was vanilla town!

Start of day 2 in roughly 24 hours. (7 PM EST)

EOD2, Visor has been yeeted under the sun! He flips vanilla town

Visor (6): Ender, Taffy, Renata, Csargo, HK, Boq
Ender (4): Ladd, Vulgard, Monty, Visor
HK (3): Kagemusha, dya, Cape
Vulgard (1): Amy

SOD3 in 24 hours (7 PM EST)

orders one hour before deadline yadayadayada

have i been misreading one of my clears this whole time
even if amy is a wolf, it would mean that the whole visor wagon is pure

like
it isnt out of the realms of possibilities that either of the eod wagons are pure - i have seen it happen, but still

[Boquise]

I am going to keep my vote on Amy tbh.

[Boquise]

i have some updated thoughts but will wait to talk about them until tomorrow

kinda miffed that kage appeared to answer a question and then just dipped again. Makes me feel like theres some lurking going on

[Boquise]

but why even bother answering me if scum when he has been afk the whole day either way

[Boquise]

or maybe it is better for the game state that i spill the beans sooner rather than later

but i dont want scum to be able to plan and prepare smh

[Boquise]

or maybe it is better for the game state that i spill the beans sooner rather than later

but i dont want scum to be able to plan and prepare smh

actually yeah i dont want them to fix their nk plans in case amy is a miss

[Boquise]

actually yeah i dont want them to fix their nk plans in case amy is a miss

like if everyone else was here live then it would be pro town to talk about it and stuff, maybe make some waves, but here i sit

[Boquise]

maybe scum will paranoid kill me now when i have hinted at uncovering a secret

it is like the movies when one unlikely character figures out the whole mystery but right before they are to reveal it all for the rest of the cast they get

[hollowkatt]

Csargo (2): Amy, Kage
Taffy (4): Monty, Csargo, Boq, Renata
Renata (2): Taffy, Ender
Unvoted: HK

I made a votecount for today because I don't know what the votes are and we got 30m

Whether as ultimate potato townies or ultimate slanker Mafia, kage-Amp will probably doom us at the rate we're going.

as i skim back and stuff i realised another reason why monty should be town - he tried to remedy things between renata and me by showing her how i did have a clear progression with dyachei

and like, why try make two townies stop fighting if you are scum?

you don't, really. Unless you think that by fighting they'll find each other townie.

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt i am willing to vote either amy or kage. If I have been wrong on Csargo and he is a wolf, 1 of those should be a wolf too. If I have been correct on Csargo being town, 1 of those should be a wolf still.

tbh my won't vote list is ender, monty, and you
everyone else is fair game at this point. If we're in a 2 wolves alive world then yes, csargo, amy, kage contains two. If we're in a one wolf world that's a little trickier but I'm assuming we're in a 2 wolf world because 3 wolves doesn't make sense and we haven't seen power from their team enough to justify.

[hollowkatt]

this is ladd popping in to shade two unflipped players randomly
the wagons are ender vs visor

and like my usual way to read this is that it is unlikely to write about teammates like this when the wagons are like how they are, kinda unnecessary, but it also doesnt really cost anything as we can see by how the thread does not move to kage/monty - so it is free distancing.

I think my biggest fear is we're trying to chase down basically LHF so either we're right or there's a wolf in the town bucket and I don't want there to be a wolf in the town bucket.

[EnderWiggin]

Awake for EOD. I dunno how coherent I'm gonna be because I'm tired/sick but I'll give it a fair shake.

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Kage

The fact that both Csargo and Kage were okay with POEing the other two lhf makes me feel like there's 100% not 2 in there.

[hollowkatt]

i'm just gonna sheep ender
vote: kage

[Raskolnikov]

Kagemusha (3): Csargo, ENder, HK
Amy (2): Monty, , Boquise
Csargo (1): Kagemusha

EOD in 3 minutes

[Raskolnikov]

D5 is over.

[Kagemusha]

Vote Amy

[Raskolnikov]

Kagemusha has been chopped! He flips mafia goon!

SOD6 in 24 hours.

[Raskolnikov]

Amy (Mixolydia) has been killed! They were vanilla town.

Day ends in 48 hours at 7pm EST on the 21th.
@Csargo @hollowkatt @Montmorency @Mixolydia (Amy) @EnderWiggin @Boquise

You may now post and enjoy!

[EnderWiggin]

What the fuck.

[EnderWiggin]

I mean Amy was spewed town from Kage's failed vote but

Still.

I feel like there were bigger fish that became clear from this.

Why am I still alive, I'm sick and I just wanna die.

Do I have to kill all the mafia for this.