Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[Raskolnikov]

Its just pzelda/SK/Ender makes a lot of sense

[Raskolnikov]

Gonna read SK again to see how he ends up pushing for Logic... might help me removing Ender or HK from the POE

[SilverKeith]

good morning sunshine~

[EnderWiggin]

fake read tbh

Sideways susses PZelda for a fake read.

soul reads bad

Rask calls them out for voting Dya after that for no discernable reason.

chief wiggin kinda wolfy

Start of sus on me

enderwiggin and dyachei

When asked who the wolves are. (No Pzelda)

vote: EnderWiggin

Changes vote to me when winds turn against me hard.

weak trio brah

To Raskol pointing at HK/Logic/Pzelda as a trio.

je supprimerais hollowkatt. il est amusant et tres chaud

Implies only HK should be removed.

unless his game has cratered in the last year, "polarize and dip" isn't his wolfing tactic. polarize, yes, but not the dipping

More of above

chopping pzelda is so lame

Wagon on Pzelda solidifies. This is their response.

vote: Logic

Joins Logic wagon when it spawns in.

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And that's about all the relevant posts.

I do find their position around PZ weird, but I admit I did have the impression they tied me to PZ more which...

Actually doesn't exist in their ISO.

[EnderWiggin]

I think someone else made that call and I'm mixing people up but I will look tomorrow as I need sleep.

[SilverKeith]

My first reaction to the votes on me is that I'm ok with getting lunched today but only if we work from now to eod with the assumption that I'm a villager.

If we do not do that then I'd like to be presented with reasons on why I'm a wolf because what I've been seen is either bad/weak or just doesn't apply to me as a player at all.

Second reaction is to believe that Baudi is a wolf because he approached me differently than the rest of y'all. While the rest of y'all approached with "yeah, sk is just a wolf I guess" with a very lazy surface level 1 go trough the motions approach, I felt like baudi had a more nuanced-ish wolfy approach. Not sure if I really believe this tho.

Logic might be a wolf. I think his posting fits that of a wolf but don't currently feel that's the case. I liked his reaction to the poison. A part of me thinks it'd be interesting just assuming he's a v and let him die but also putting like a mental censor on his existence might be best for solving. Don't think it matters that much. Idk how to word this better sorry this is non-derogatory.

[Raskolnikov]

Ok. SK wanted Logic because their posting was bad (nvm pzeldas lol) then voted the later for science.

Also I really dont know what to do about SKs read on Ephe D1. But its noted and need to be revisted in case SK flips red.

[Raskolnikov]

@Ephemeral: why did u want Logic over pzelda?

[hollowkatt]

Alrighty then who are the wolves?

sk is a good vote. Wisdom is also a good vote.

[SilverKeith]

Unordered between tiers

Ladd
-------
Syn
Eph
Ender
C4
Rask
--------
Dya
-------
HK
Visor
Yolo
--------
Baudi

I guess I'm rereading D1 for a bit. I'm bothered by the 5 player townie clump I've got because I vaguely feel they are townie but got no strong reasons to really clear any of them. I haven't talked about Ender I think but I feel his current approach is townie.

I also don't think HK/Visor/Yolo are paired between themselves for their D2 approach of instavoting me. There's at most one wolf there.

If logic is a wolf the spot for the last one opens up a bit I guess.

[SilverKeith]

sk is a good vote. Wisdom is also a good vote.

lol

[Raskolnikov]

How are Visor and me not lock town SK? We just punt pzelda from the get go.

[Raskolnikov]

Yeah funny one HK :wowee:


Disclaimer, I am not clearing u out of this :p

[Raskolnikov]

SK, fwiw I am ready to reaf you in good faith. Sorry if my posts sound otherwise. I just think you arr POE with EOD1 dynamic and pzeldas flip.

[SilverKeith]

Science is just a keyword for push buttons and see what happens.

I actually ended up on pzelda because /baudi/ pointed out that the pzelda wagon was more pure. And I saw baudi on the logic wagon and decided I didn't want to vote alongside him.

Embarrassingly enough when I say /baudi/, I actually thought it was visor who pointed that out originally. I confused their avatars.

[Raskolnikov]

Ngl i understand tinfoiling Visor. But putting him so low without explanation is sure something. Tell me more about it pls

[dyachei]

So i want to read pzelda spew and see what I can glean from it. Kind of think some of the interactions already talked about point to logic being v even though I still hate his read on me (because it's wolfy)

I don't think hk is excluded from being a wolfbro like ender seems to think. I have seen wolves come in and defend partners/give them weird v reads when they are getting dogpiled

[SilverKeith]

How are Visor and me not lock town SK? We just punt pzelda from the get go.

I, uh, haven't read that part of the game actually. Oops. I only skimmed it. I'll read it before EOD2.

I think you're townie but I don't know you that much. So I'm not townlocking you.

I'm wary about Visor because in the last game we played together (the game that was quoted for a HK read), Visor literally bused their 3 partners. Admittedly none of them were in a good spot so I think he did the correct play, but I was really fooled by it (or I'd be if I hadn't been nk'ed there, lol)

[Raskolnikov]

Bussing a compromise slot is something, compromising a partner and doubling down on him is another lol. Read more, we have time.

[SilverKeith]

I also think Visor switch onto me might be wolfy because he should like know me better? I get it from like, ladd, perfectly fine.

Upon retrospective I think this might make more sense bc he was a wolf that game so he didn't read my posts actually analyzing them (and had the knowledge that I was randomly right in a bunch of places), so it makes sense he doesn't see me in the same light as, C4, who actually had to read me as a townie and now has charitably pointed out that some of my reads are really dumb, something which I don't really mind.

[nebjiamn]

VOTE TALLY


SilverKeith 5 Visor YOLOSWAG hollowkatt Ephemeral Raskolnikov
hollowkatt 1 baudib1
EnderWiggin 1 Syn
Ladd 1 EnderWiggin




MAJ is in effect and is 7

EOD is 7pm eastern on 2/5/2023

believe this is correct

[dyachei]

think yolo is almost always a villager because of the way pzelda read him. He had a lot of actual reasons to explain why yolo was v. Compared to the rask read in the same post, he spends a lot more time talking about yolo's concrete play.

defense of HK is also present a few times. Tries to defend HK against ladd's push but it's only a soft defense. I still don't think they're incompatible.

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

Think this post looks excellent for ladd...especially considering that pzelda sort of liked ladd's case earlier. however, I think this is a bad look for ender. Basically the defense of ender is based on him only being with hk, who pzelda was v reading.

What about his most recent town game? Checking only the wolf game feels biased af.
Not that I tr or sr Logic, It's difficult to spit out a conclusion with posts like that.

hedginess on logic here makes me think logic more likely to be v

He does vote sk and drops his ladd vote but continues to shade ladd in it. Feels like that is a good look for ladd.

he kind of hedges on logic some more because he doesn't see anything wolfy from him but doesnt want to meta dive. feels like he's trying to keep the option open.

It doesn't make you a wolf, it makes you less likely a town than most of the players. I'm sure you can do more in the next sixty minutes if you're a villager.

this feels like he's trying to give sk an out

[Logic]

sk is a good vote. Wisdom is also a good vote.

What?
Wisdom was the NK, bronana

[Logic]

Science is just a keyword for push buttons and see what happens.

I actually ended up on pzelda because /baudi/ pointed out that the pzelda wagon was more pure. And I saw baudi on the logic wagon and decided I didn't want to vote alongside him.

Embarrassingly enough when I say /baudi/, I actually thought it was visor who pointed that out originally. I confused their avatars.

Science is the epitome of "F*** around, find out."
But it's not actually science of you aren't recording your results.

[Logic]

I also think Visor switch onto me might be wolfy because he should like know me better? I get it from like, ladd, perfectly fine.

Upon retrospective I think this might make more sense bc he was a wolf that game so he didn't read my posts actually analyzing them (and had the knowledge that I was randomly right in a bunch of places), so it makes sense he doesn't see me in the same light as, C4, who actually had to read me as a townie and now has charitably pointed out that some of my reads are really dumb, something which I don't really mind.

Only one person is allowed to Logic™ read Visor for this, and it ain't you.

[Logic]

(For the record, I have HK as wolf over SK.)

[ladd]

Wisdom is also a good vote.

[Raskolnikov]

(For the record, I have HK as wolf over SK.)

You disagree with Ender's towncase of HK? What about Dya? How do you read them rn

[ladd]

My first reaction to the votes on me is that I'm ok with getting lunched today but only if we work from now to eod with the assumption that I'm a villager.

sure thing

i won't be able to be around much today but i'll be around sunday

[dyachei]

man, I was hoping someone would actually want to engage with what im writing but I guess not