Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[ladd]

Alrighty bbl for real

I am more worried ender/hk are v/v than them being w/w tbh

Hk/ender/zelds team doesnt fit imo (and i dont even think they are the 2 wolfiest postsers)

[baudib1]

Alrighty bbl for real

I am more worried ender/hk are v/v than them being w/w tbh

Hk/ender/zelds team doesnt fit imo (and i dont even think they are the 2 wolfiest postsers)

Pretty sure that V!ladd would make 65 more “bbl for real” posts commenting on everything everyone said in the past two pages.

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 Visor Ephemeral
yoloswag 1 Raskolnikov

MAJ is in effect and is 6
EOD is 7pm eastern on 2/8/23

[Syn]

vote: EnderWiggin

[baudib1]

In the less brave new world where we're not sweeping, I'm not quite there on a confident V Yolo read. I'd put him at translucent lime green. He's not a player like me who floods the thread with every thought, it's true that he takes some time to get fired up. I am slightly perplexed by his treatment of me, and maybe it's because he is V-reading Ender.

If I had to guess, my gut tells me that W!Yolo would be more cautious around V!me than V!Yolo would be wary of potential W!me.

However, one interesting observation he made that I found interesting is him noting that there's not an undercurrent of hate directed at ladd or Visor. I suppose the people who were somewhat SR Visor are dead -- SK, Wisdom in particular (outed imo).

I'm not sure how many wolves try to actually come after V!ladd. I'm not W!Baud would TDome him, but I would definitely look for spots to try to question his thought process or undermine him. (I'm not saying it would work)

For sure the biggest difference is V!baudib asks Dya for more opinions and W!baudib doesn't.

I guess this thought experiment leads to me believe the other two wolves are laying somewhat low atm.

We're not too far from some heavyweight bouts in this game if we misyeet today.

[baudib1]

vote: Ephemeral

[Syn]

In the less brave new world where we're not sweeping, I'm not quite there on a confident V Yolo read. I'd put him at translucent lime green. He's not a player like me who floods the thread with every thought, it's true that he takes some time to get fired up.

I have only played one game with Yolo and we were wolf partners. In that, he try-harded in the beginning and slowly tapered off on effort as it became less and less necessary. Is this usually different for him?

[baudib1]

I have only played one game with Yolo and we were wolf partners. In that, he try-harded in the beginning and slowly tapered off on effort as it became less and less necessary. Is this usually different for him?

Yeah Yolo is one of the best wolf partners to have and I legit think he’s more amped up at start as a wolf. As a villager I think he’s better late game than beginning.

[Raskolnikov]

In the less brave new world where we're not sweeping, I'm not quite there on a confident V Yolo read. I'd put him at translucent lime green. He's not a player like me who floods the thread with every thought, it's true that he takes some time to get fired up. I am slightly perplexed by his treatment of me, and maybe it's because he is V-reading Ender.

If I had to guess, my gut tells me that W!Yolo would be more cautious around V!me than V!Yolo would be wary of potential W!me.

However, one interesting observation he made that I found interesting is him noting that there's not an undercurrent of hate directed at ladd or Visor. I suppose the people who were somewhat SR Visor are dead -- SK, Wisdom in particular (outed imo).

I'm not sure how many wolves try to actually come after V!ladd. I'm not W!Baud would TDome him, but I would definitely look for spots to try to question his thought process or undermine him. (I'm not saying it would work)

For sure the biggest difference is V!baudib asks Dya for more opinions and W!baudib doesn't.

I guess this thought experiment leads to me believe the other two wolves are laying somewhat low atm.

We're not too far from some heavyweight bouts in this game if we misyeet today.

It's weird how you are going after Ender for trying to impose NKA as a main topic but actually doesn't have a problem with Yolo doing that in a more subtil way. These kills are sure meant to frame both Ladd and Visor nah?

(I will eat one more ML before going nuts and tinfoiling this world, tsk tsk tsk woofs)

[Raskolnikov]

you mentionned pzelda's post about Yolo:

I like these reads and that they're not based on meta. There is some meta included, but it is site meta, if I understand it correctly. They're the first takes in this game I have some inclination to sheep and that makes me v lean Yolo.

Also, regarding my earlier clash with Rask, I reread it and on the second look he just looks like having fun and I v?s the one overreacting. I guess I will need to see more before making a proper take.

Town leans: HK, Yolo
Null: Everyone else

There is something to be said about these reads. How easily he came up with them (just as easily as he had OMGUS me I dare to say) and how none of HK/Yolo had anything to say about it and just ride them (when they really look like faked)
I mean I am not sure for Yolo, but I am pretty sure town!HK would have had something to say about the TMI here. And he didn't.

Rask, HK, Yolo for villas

Ladd, Keith, Logic for wolves

Wolves were more difficult to assemble. I don't think anyone in particular is extremely Wolfy, but some players look more stuff or struggle to interact imho.

lol

ONe thing to note here is that there is Ladd, but not Visor, nor Eph. who were sussed in his previous read post (were he talks about who are the wolves pushing him)

To explain this, I have few names I would vote for and I probably wouldn't vote for the rest. I would vote for:

Ladd
SK
Logic
Visor
Eph
Dya
Syn
and maybe C4
and maybe maybe Wisdom

I would prefer the first two to be wagons today, but I guess that's not happening.

framed?

[baudib1]

In the less brave new world where we're not sweeping, I'm not quite there on a confident V Yolo read. I'd put him at translucent lime green. He's not a player like me who floods the thread with every thought, it's true that he takes some time to get fired up. I am slightly perplexed by his treatment of me, and maybe it's because he is V-reading Ender.

If I had to guess, my gut tells me that W!Yolo would be more cautious around V!me than V!Yolo would be wary of potential W!me.

However, one interesting observation he made that I found interesting is him noting that there's not an undercurrent of hate directed at ladd or Visor. I suppose the people who were somewhat SR Visor are dead -- SK, Wisdom in particular (outed imo).

I'm not sure how many wolves try to actually come after V!ladd. I'm not W!Baud would TDome him, but I would definitely look for spots to try to question his thought process or undermine him. (I'm not saying it would work)

For sure the biggest difference is V!baudib asks Dya for more opinions and W!baudib doesn't.

I guess this thought experiment leads to me believe the other two wolves are laying somewhat low atm.

We're not too far from some heavyweight bouts in this game if we misyeet today.

My first post of the game was complaining about not being W/W with Yolo, and I thought it was a little weird that he didn?t really call attention to that post. (See Rask, some of us are actually playing mafia in our first posts of a mafia game. BITD if you didn?t nail 2 wolves and lock in 3 villas within the first 20 posts you were just slanking.)

My experience with Yolo has mostly been on the same team his treatment of me just kinda fits how I would imagine he?d play it here. Not exactly locking this in but I want to emphasize how hard it is for me to want to vote him. Also I know he can post his way out if he?s villa.

[YOLOSWAG]

Vote: ladd

[Raskolnikov]

My first post of the game was complaining about not being W/W with Yolo, and I thought it was a little weird that he didn?t really call attention to that post. (See Rask, some of us are actually playing mafia in our first posts of a mafia game. BITD if you didn?t nail 2 wolves and lock in 3 villas within the first 20 posts you were just slanking.)

My experience with Yolo has mostly been on the same team his treatment of me just kinda fits how I would imagine he?d play it here. Not exactly locking this in but I want to emphasize how hard it is for me to want to vote him. Also I know he can post his way out if he?s villa.

Remind me this post @baudib if HK ever flips red. (actually no, just check to which post HK replied first (hint, my opener). Then note how he had to justify his vote on me... when, and take it for granted, we almost always shit crossvote D1 to say "hello")

Due diligence to the mafia gods.

[EnderWiggin]

In the less brave new world where we're not sweeping, I'm not quite there on a confident V Yolo read. I'd put him at translucent lime green. He's not a player like me who floods the thread with every thought, it's true that he takes some time to get fired up. I am slightly perplexed by his treatment of me, and maybe it's because he is V-reading Ender.

If I had to guess, my gut tells me that W!Yolo would be more cautious around V!me than V!Yolo would be wary of potential W!me.

However, one interesting observation he made that I found interesting is him noting that there's not an undercurrent of hate directed at ladd or Visor. I suppose the people who were somewhat SR Visor are dead -- SK, Wisdom in particular (outed imo).

I'm not sure how many wolves try to actually come after V!ladd. I'm not W!Baud would TDome him, but I would definitely look for spots to try to question his thought process or undermine him. (I'm not saying it would work)

For sure the biggest difference is V!baudib asks Dya for more opinions and W!baudib doesn't.

I guess this thought experiment leads to me believe the other two wolves are laying somewhat low atm.

We're not too far from some heavyweight bouts in this game if we misyeet today.

This turns from a cromulent started thought process into a weird self-meta. I don't like it.

[Visor]

This turns from a cromulent started thought process into a weird self-meta. I don't like it.

do go on

[Visor]

to be clear, i hold no responsibility for baudib claiming

it should be obvious that CCing a clear villager faking for you is pure stupidity

(its basic turbo mechanics baudib lol)

i fail to see the downside of doing what i did

if the wolves for some ungodly reason decide to stack both kills on me (which is stupid af, but you suggested it), they lose a PR kill and kill a vanillager. if the joat saves me, great but if i die i have already achieved my outcome which to ENSURE that our prs last another day

the joat has either used their doc already, or can easily save it for another night, especially with the wifom around my claim

also, if either ender or hollowkatt (or both!) are wolves, i take away the potential for them to fakeclaim MD (if one of them is village MD they could obv just counter and that would be FANTASTIC INFO TO HAVE).

like what is the fuckin downside lol

at worst case, it trades the doc shot to stop the possibility of wolves taking away a lynch, while also keeping both prs safer than they would otherwise be