Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[Raskolnikov]

I do think w!Yolo is not with Ladd/Visor fwiw (just checked again how the wagon formed):

I voted there, Visor pushed him without voting (he did vote him several times l8r). Ladd did the next irl day, then Wisdom posted one wolf in Ladd/Logic/pzelda. Yolo immediatly voted him without much of an explanation (don't recall him talking about pzelda before too, need to check).

dunno, it's just feel like a bus to me ("pzelda can survive Rask/Visor push maybe, but not if Ladd/Wisdom joins, lfg")

I'd expect Visor's bus earlier if you are wondering why not him but Yolo yes. 3rd vote is a good time to do it.

[Raskolnikov]

Happy birthday to little Dya! <3

[dyachei]

Happy birthday to little Dya! <3

she loves icing! She was confused at first and I had to show her that the icing was edible. But once she started she was unstoppable

[Raskolnikov]

she loves icing! She was confused at first and I had to show her that the icing was edible. But once she started she was unstoppable

Did you use a comics brand finally lol? (on my side I really hope it was the last paw patrol year lol. I am done with Marshall)

[ladd]

vote:hollowkat

[YOLOSWAG]

My vote is on HK in spirit but I’m trying to pretend this lunch wasn’t predetermined 3 phases ago

[ladd]

My vote is on HK in spirit but I’m trying to pretend this lunch wasn’t predetermined 3 phases ago

Whats your reads?

i am open to considering other things

Even spicy ones

[EnderWiggin]

My vote is on HK in spirit but I?m trying to pretend this lunch wasn?t predetermined 3 phases ago

Out of curiosity, why did you defend my reads citing my accuracy from the Anon game then post this sussing one of the players I legit think is town?

And unless I've missed something, you haven't engaged me in the slightest bit about my read?

[dyachei]

Did you use a comics brand finally lol? (on my side I really hope it was the last paw patrol year lol. I am done with Marshall)

no, we just got her a dinosaur cake

[dyachei]

looking at hk posts. first thing is that there are a ton more posts than I thought there'd be which isnt great because almost none of them are memorable

In all seriousness how familiar are you with Syn because for me this is solidly in his town play. I don't generally see wolf Syn fuck off and make those kinds of posts, at least not until they're more established in the game. I associate what he's said thus far with his town play, hence my post. Your mileage may vary.

this read of syn to baudib is like...super non-specific. Doesnt feel like a real read to me

I have a baseline for everyone that I've got experience with. If that baseline is met I lean them town until either the baseline isn't met or isn't necessary, or if they town tell in some way (rendering the baseline unnecessary). Thus far Syn has done nothing that deviates from the baseline. Should that happen I'll adjust my read.

this is the kind of thing I think hk did a lot of in his lost wolf game. There were a lot of reads where he just decided someone was a villager and didnt really explain it well.

His read on me is a little better in that he actually explains it

His baseline is to be dry, acerbic, and rather unenthusiastic about existing. Oh wait that's his IRL baseline it just happens to coincide with his mafia playing baseline. Wolf Syn wants to be ingratiated into the game moreso than town Syn does. Town Syn generally doesn't give a flying fuck about anything, wants to make the posts he wants to make, and isn't looking to advance any kind of agenda, just wreck wolves.

It's probably not smart to town read Syn off of his extremely early game posts but I did it anyways and I'm happy with his posting afterwards as well.

As far as holistic thoughts about the game:

I have vastly more town reads than wolf reads. I like, for town:

you, dya, raskol, Visor, noraplus, and wisdom.
Yolo maybe.

Everyone else is some flavor of "idc/don't have a read/could be wolf" and I'm ok with that. Except Ender, I think he's furry.

I think, specifically about dya, that they're reacting hard to how I played the last game here. I was lost wolf, played it completely straight (as if I were town), helped chop two of the three members of the wolf team, then won in F3. Dya recognizing the similarities is good but arrived at the wrong conclusion. The only reason that play style worked is I had no idea who the wolf team was so I could hunt wolves as town does. Once the last pack wolf was dead I had to survive two days. We got Boq on D6 and F3 was me, Ender, and Monty. I had ender pocketed and basically voted monty and peaced out of the thread. Ender never wavered (in thread anyways) on me being town so the game was done.

I think Dya arrives at that conclusion rather naturally and is concerned that I'm using the same type of tactics/strategy in this game. The problem is that there's no lost wolf who's anti town but also uninformed. That's the only reason I was able to get the win. I "correctly" sused out Dya and got them chopped and then "correctly" voted Kagemusha to get them chopped as the last pack wolf. Then I inherited the NK and went from there.

but look at all the village reads he makes and how many he actually explains

what makes pzelda a good d1 regardless of alignment? my experience with them is they're solid and almost never a liability.

soft defense of zelda

why is pzelda a wagon? cliffs is fine

and again

I thought Rask had a decent point when he said Ender was going out of his way to prevent pzelda from being a "thing", made a post in response to rask and dropped the vote on Ender. Ender is "fine" but "fine" Ender has high potential to be wolfEnder. I find Town Ender to be more aggro/more interested in making his pushes last or go somewhere legit but here he is being vocal and calling things out but doesn't seem to care about driving anything to any kind of conclusion.

baudib is meh to me. They latched onto "hk is weird" early and tried to ride me for that for a while and it's fine. I don't think he had bad intentions pushing me. That's probably the most charitable thing I can say atm.

like the same could be said for hk here (regarding ender trying to make zelda not a thing).

doesnt think we had w/w wagons d1. I dont remember who else was in serious contention that day but maybe logic? if so, that could be a little bit of TMI

there are a lot of like...derp clears/attempted derps. Like saying wisdom is a good vote.

susses baudib a decent amount but doesnt do much about it. v!hk is usually more aggressive with his reads so this feels odd. Well, I mean, until today. he shaded baudib starting from d1

ur moneys no good here and you've been riding my jock for two days now. find a new pony or you know do something about it. Like for as vociferous as you've been about HK is a wolf you strangely keep winding up on someone elses wagon at the end of the day, and you don't actually do much to stump for my chop, you're just loudly annoying about it to start a game day and then kinda poofs out.

are you stringing me along and poisoning the well or are you actually trying to solve?
next question: do you have me paired with Ender or do you think I have him fooled?

this feels like the shade of someone wildly out of touch with thread happenings. Also he v read visor to this point

my secret tinfoil there is Ender realized how powerful hard pocketing can be and is going for that, but tangentially not directly. Like he doesn't sheep my calls, he doesn't build me up, he doesn't engage in conversations where I "sway" him to my pov. Instead he talks to other people about me being town and saying what he's said. So sure, tinfoil says "be ware"

that said ender isn't playing this game like any wolf game I've seen him play, he's a very competent wolf.

Sometimes people just get a thing going and run with it. I ran with Syn being town. It felt right, still feels right, I'm sticking with it. I'm not particularly concerned with Syn being a wolf as he won't make F3 if he is, we'll fear chop him on like D5 or something.

this post is full of hedge for someone he professes to feel strongly about

I feel like I can say with some amount of accuracy that the following are not wolves:
Rask
Visor
Syn
Ender
Ladd
Dya

I suspect baudib mostly because they've wanted to call me a wolf for days but aren't actually doing anything about it.
I think Eph has some wolf potential as even during D1 they were more "ingratiating and chilling with the homies" than they were about solving the game. They ended up on the right wagon but meh

Yolo is a person of interest but that's the most I can say about them at the moment. Everyone else is dead.

so he says this is why baudib is a wolf. but he basically accused visor of doing the same thing and visor is a town read.