Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[ladd]

The levels were funny, I thought Rask was trying to give me cover by pretending he thought Visor's claim was real.

who do you think is the wolf?

[baudib1]

who do you think is the wolf?

it's probably Yolo, I said that I felt him being cautious/standoffish around me was more likely W!Yolo being afraid of me catching him and V!Yolo being wary of me. I had that vibe on P1 also.

If not I think it's Syn who hasn't had many reads/thoughts other than Ender=W all game because I don't see how I would ever vote Dya/Visor this game.

[Visor]

fwiw i didn't expect to be CC'ed at all

there is a world where baudib either knew i was faking or suspected and used my fake claim as a way to use his own fake claim to be townread but thats like galaxy brain wolf moves lol

baudib is a good wolf but i don't think thats likely lol

had no idea what level rask was on with his reaction, whether he actually believed me and was trying to give cover or thought i done fucked up and was tongue lashing me

its possible wolves also believed i was real regardless and tried to pr kill me cause of my easy retraction

not sure it matters rn anyway

[ladd]

fwiw i didn't expect to be CC'ed at all

there is a world where baudib either knew i was faking or suspected and used my fake claim as a way to use his own fake claim to be townread but thats like galaxy brain wolf moves lol

baudib is a good wolf but i don't think thats likely lol

had no idea what level rask was on with his reaction, whether he actually believed me and was trying to give cover or thought i done fucked up and was tongue lashing me

its possible wolves also believed i was real regardless and tried to pr kill me cause of my easy retraction

not sure it matters rn anyway

yea and he snapped CCed

i dont really think baudib is ever a wolf between this and his play tbh

[Visor]

ive been debating about this for a while, but i figure given its d3 and possible one if not both pr shots have been used up and even if i do get pr shot we don't lose any lynches

im gonna hardclaim motion detector

i have no useful results (and don't see the point of telling yall what results i have anyway because no need to narrow the joat down for wolves)

but figure this might help a little, i dunno

Wtf thanks but you didn?t have to do that

CC
N1 SK no result
N2 Visor no result

9 minutes between the posts so pretty quick thinking

his previous post was a while earlier too

[Visor]

ive been debating about this for a while, but i figure given its d3 and possible one if not both pr shots have been used up and even if i do get pr shot we don't lose any lynches

im gonna hardclaim motion detector

i have no useful results (and don't see the point of telling yall what results i have anyway because no need to narrow the joat down for wolves)

but figure this might help a little, i dunno

it's probably Yolo, I said that I felt him being cautious/standoffish around me was more likely W!Yolo being afraid of me catching him and V!Yolo being wary of me. I had that vibe on P1 also.

If not I think it's Syn who hasn't had many reads/thoughts other than Ender=W all game because I don't see how I would ever vote Dya/Visor this game.

i think yolo has had a cautious energy all game really

[Visor]

ladd can you quote some of the ender/syn stuff you thought wasn't aligned

[ladd]

ladd can you quote some of the ender/syn stuff you thought wasn't aligned

I am from phone multitasking but ill try

I am gonna be a bit slow tho

[Visor]

no rush, do it later

lots of time left in the day

[baudib1]

fwiw i didn't expect to be CC'ed at all

there is a world where baudib either knew i was faking or suspected and used my fake claim as a way to use his own fake claim to be townread but thats like galaxy brain wolf moves lol

baudib is a good wolf but i don't think thats likely lol

had no idea what level rask was on with his reaction, whether he actually believed me and was trying to give cover or thought i done fucked up and was tongue lashing me

its possible wolves also believed i was real regardless and tried to pr kill me cause of my easy retraction

not sure it matters rn anyway

let's say I were to use this game to break my decade-long meta/theoretical beliefs and hard-push partner Ender, I really don't see how I would fake a claim there for extra town cred when I had pretty high standing in the thread already.

[ladd]

Amazing insight. You wanna quote all my posts and say that?

Hey Syn. You apparently "know me well". Wanna go find a single game as wolf where I bet on stupid wifom?

Keeping one highly townread member alive or angel dodging is 100% something I would do. But when you got a block of players pushing the wagons around who are very townread I'd take the chance of hitting the ONE save in the entire game instead of letting them run roughshod over my poor PZ/HK/Me team.

Also why I've been killing people like C4 who don't think I'm wolf and might protect me if people push me?

Actually.

Wait.

If I'm making these supposedly "Sus building" kills, why haven't I killed someone like Dya who will 100% push me every game because they always sus me?

(Dya can confirm we have constantly sussed each other through the games we've played in the past.)

Why would I kill C4 who actually townread me? And might agree to my "POE is fucked" read?

Think it was these posts mostly

I actually may be more confident on baudib villa than syn

But i think its just yolo anyway

[baudib1]

Yolo saying he thought Ephemeral was a PR and then Ephemeral not dying is a little interesting but I guess they believed me/Visor and burned a shot on me/Visor or they just didn't see a path to win with Ephemeral having a claim.

[ladd]

Yolo saying he thought Ephemeral was a PR and then Ephemeral not dying is a little interesting but I guess they believed me/Visor and burned a shot on me/Visor or they just didn't see a path to win with Ephemeral having a claim.

Thats wolfing 101

I do it half of my wolfgames lol

[baudib1]

Thats wolfing 101

I do it half of my wolfgames lol

But he would have had to believe my claim right?

Not sure how many people PR hunt as villagers but I do and I can see Yolo doing it. I did get the vibe that Syn was PR - there was a post where I said to them to turn the heat up because he was being a bit too chill.

[baudib1]

I’ll towncase myself cuz I’m bored just so y’all don’t have to go through my posts.

[baudib1]

FWIW I think these first two quotes look good for me, the "go Ender first so I don't have to read his posts" is definitely something I could see myself saying about a partner though lmao.

Ender?s whole game has been making bizarro spew reads and unhinged mets reads and super agenda-y NK reads.

Sorry dya/syn for getting cold feet on that one.

Ah, yes. The agenda of sussing the towncore. Instead of just, idk, killing the towncore in the night.

Go find a single wolf game where I have decided not to kill towncore and instead tried to sus them.

I dare you.

+ self-meta reads.

I don?t doubt that there could be a wolf in someone who was highly cleared btw.

gonna be honest I?d rather go Ender first so I don?t have to read his posts.

[baudib1]

more stuff from me on Ender

....

EnderWiggin
I have a problem with his game because it's basically all in on:
1. HK town, sheep me
2. mediocre to bizarre spew reads
3. some seemingly controversial meta reads
4. pretty damn wolfy analysis of NKs.

He;s still going to flip V often enough that it's annoying, and I have a particularly difficult time interacting with him.
60%

I guess my lukewarm take is that I will acknowledge that the NKs are off obvious paths but these were players who are pretty unyeetable as town.

And there?s a player at the bottom of my tiered list who is really into talking about the NKs and why they?re incriminating for towncore.

And that?s while acknowledging that I feel I could very well be wrong somewhere in my upper echelon.

For a slightly hotter take, the people pushing me are people who don?t know me and don?t know how unyeetable I am - I?m miskilled maybe 1 in 30 games. So if taking the hard to yeet players off the table is the wolf strategy it points to people who don?t know me.

[baudib1]

There's more of these but here's where I said I don't see a problem with Zelda/Ender being teammates at all.

that's fine. my bigger issue with ender is the preoccupation of being tied to pzelda

Yeah I see what you?re saying. I didn?t really understand the clearance of Ender. I?ll trust your view of interactions over anyone?s.

[baudib1]

Me to Yolo, who was telling me that Ender has some fire reads as a villager.

Fair enough bub, I?m not trying to stifle your V!game but it feels like Baud-Ender is an inevitable tdome if I?m being honest.

Me to Ender, trying to pin down exactly what he thinks the NKs point to.

It?s clear to me that we have difficulty communicating and it?s probably 90%+ my fault.

What I want to know from you is this:
1. If the wolves want to make us feel a certain way or protect a particular player, then I kinda want details on that and not what you?re doing, which is just trying to stir up paranoia among people who currently feel comfortable working with each other.

I?ll offer you this, and maybe it will help you improve your view of the game:
The most obvious and specific thing that the NKs do are kinda point to ladd (Wisdom sus) and Nora dying over him. So maybe you should recalibrate your V read on Ladd.

And sure there?s confbias in what I?m going to say next - it feels to me like you want to generically talk about ?towncore? to specifically make people sus ladd without you having to do the dirty work to actually make a case on it. Which is like - pretty elite wolfing if you can get away with it, but we?re not noobs here and have all seen this stuff before.

Ender saying that he thinks ladd is a villager, also worth noting that I've asked Yolo to talk about my wolf game and he declined.

Right. So this is where I will need you to detail who you think the weird Nks point to that aren?t ladd. I am fully capable of making weird kills for specific reasons but not these (Yolo might weigh in here).

For the love of Allah I will recognize you as a NKA savant if you tell me what you they mean, who they point to and why.

[baudib1]

Bolded stuff and me going back and hammering at him to give details are out of my wolfrange, I'm not SPF.

[Visor]

gonna be real and say i never read peoples self towncases

more interested in your reads on other people

that said i'm more interested in dya and yolos takes specifically rn

[baudib1]

gonna be real and say i never read peoples self towncases

more interested in your reads on other people

that said i'm more interested in dya and yolos takes specifically rn

I strongly preferred Ender over HK yesterday and if there was more time I would have stressed that even though HK peaced out.

That said I was fully in on them being w/w and Ender’s posts at EOD sorta gave me doubt. So I thought there was a chance this game was going to be really difficult. Looking at Ladd was just due diligence. I was also going to say that I could see it being Sun/Eph.

If we take out your fake claim, which locked you in from like 97% villager to 100% imo, I’d say Dya is the most likely villager in the game.

Syn obviously looks good off the Ender tunnel but them saying it’s something they’ve done as a wolf makes me consider it even more.

[YOLOSWAG]

I’m going to reread interactions after work

@ village I’m gonna need y’all to put srs thought into which of the other players bussed. If we have two mislunches this game’s likely going to f3 if I go over tomorrow and am not sure I can confidently find the last wolf because they just played an aggressive bussing game

Til later

[YOLOSWAG]

@ladd

Pull your head out of the ?it?s always yolo? world for a sec

Gth who?s next likeliest bro?

[YOLOSWAG]

also I was going to say that baudib is either wolf or actually PR

I can now settle on wolf

I've got tomorrow's hyper tunnel lined up folks vroom vroom

How come?

[YOLOSWAG]

it's probably Yolo, I said that I felt him being cautious/standoffish around me was more likely W!Yolo being afraid of me catching him and V!Yolo being wary of me. I had that vibe on P1 also.

If not I think it's Syn who hasn't had many reads/thoughts other than Ender=W all game because I don't see how I would ever vote Dya/Visor this game.

Please talk me thru this ?YOLO would fear me as a wolf? angle because it makes no sense

[YOLOSWAG]

Also @ ladd

Why?s NL never wolf?

[YOLOSWAG]

good lord do I regret joining this game

[ladd]

@ladd

Pull your head out of the ?it?s always yolo? world for a sec

Gth who?s next likeliest bro?

idk honestly. i wanna say syn but uh it doesnt really fit

[ladd]

Also @ ladd

Why?s NL never wolf?

d1 interactions with ender when ender said everyone voting zelda was suspicious. they really don't look w/w imo

(and also partially the fakeclaim yday tho thats probably something thats still in wolf range)