I'm starting to lose focus and might just finish this reread tomorrow, I'm halfway through the game and if I force myself to keep going I'm hitting the point where my eyes begin to glaze over, dumping these notes as is
baudib1
Really engaged throughout the whole game. There is a part early in the game where he votes HK, then comes back to the thread an hour later and votes Syn saying "changed my mind." This does not sound convincing in text but in context, felt like a villager who threw out a vote, thought more about how another player could be a wolf, then came back to vote the other player. Little beats like that ring more to me as a villager, it's the thoughtfulness behind the action and wanting to impact the gamestate with his follow-through
Originally Posted by baudib1
Vote for logic
Has a post asking pzelda to vote logic, idfk
Problem with baudi is that I feel he overextends on some of his susses/statements but I'm not sure if wolfy or just bored villa trying to make things happen, leaning v
ender
Came into the game voting HK and townreading me, baudib and Rask. I sometimes see wolves make these kinds of entrances on all villas. Posted this in response to Rask:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Who are the wolves pushing on pzelda to save HK?
What's your read on the former?
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Visor I think, maybe considering a heel turn on my ladd read tbh, I wanted Yolo and you to be town and you probably both are which means maybe it started pure.
Although at most one of the above cause I doubt both wolves would jump onto the defense.
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
I'm gonna nurse a scumread on Syn I think.
Need to double check but my brain is saying that Syn tried to tie me to Pzelda but then tried to derail the wagon on Pzelda anyway.
IDK what this means but quoting for contemplations' sake later on anyway
Pzelda's wagon is suspiciously timed when HK was getting heat. I don't think the way the two interacted is w/w. Therefore Pzelda is town.
Am I misremembering or weren't you agreeing that HK's whole thing was sus? Why aren't you voting there?
Originally Posted by Visor
suspiciously timed LOL
:really:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Thread: HK Does a weird thing
People: Start to vote HK
Me: Starts to push HK
Other people: "So about this pzelda chump."
HK pressure suddenly dips.
If I'm right about HK being wolf then straight up it's suspicious that the pzelda sus started where it did.
Originally Posted by Visor
why can't we be villagers who think that pzelda is independently wolfy from hk
i don't care about interactions
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Okay I have had two people tell me I'm off regarding the timing of the wagon. I'mma be back after I double-check this.
Originally Posted by Visor
you're basically saying the fact there is a counter wagon to the wagon you like is wolfy lol
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
"Oh man, I caught a wolf."
"Why are people building another wagon???"
Originally Posted by Visor
wat
this is ww bronana, people build multiple wagons
you're telling me you honestly think that a counter wagon to a wagon you like is wolfy?
you've been in hundreds of ww games, of which pretty much all have multiple wagons d1
man i don't know what to make of any of your posts on this page lol
Originally Posted by Visor
i mean i don't even disagree with you that i think hk is wolfy
i just have thoughts on other slots too and hkatt has gotten plenty of attention this game already
Inclined to believe Visor's tone toward Ender here -- the conviction behind the push and the "bronana what are you doing" air to it feels real, also thinking Ender has a scrambling energy behind these posts that don't read partnered
This last post of "I don't even disagree with you that I think hk is wolfy" reads pure, can't put into words why but feels towny
Syn
A lot of their posts look good in context/real-time, he posted this after ender's wild 180 on capage:
Originally Posted by Syn
chief wiggin kinda wolfy
Originally Posted by Syn
yolo town
Had an early game sus of dyachei, notating this cuz he was the only one to do so
Lots of Syn posts feel alright in realtime, dang. SOD2 opener:
Originally Posted by Syn
nvm chopping pzelda is totally awesome
Originally Posted by Syn
ok fine
vote: EnderWiggin
hm
dyachei
Had some reasonable posts D1, don't have much to say they're just fine
Originally Posted by dyachei
So i want to read pzelda spew and see what I can glean from it. Kind of think some of the interactions already talked about point to logic being v even though I still hate his read on me (because it's wolfy)
I don't think hk is excluded from being a wolfbro like ender seems to think. I have seen wolves come in and defend partners/give them weird v reads when they are getting dogpiled
I've V read Syn/dya/baudi pretty comfortably throughout the game, I've had you as null but admit the spew looks favorable
I'm at the point of the game where more ender sus starts flying around including Syn's longform push on him, I'll have to see if that brings anything to mind tomorrow but ngl last wolf feels like a crapshoot atm
Well whoever the wolf is, good for you but it's like, I clearly outposted and outworked them the past few days.
If it's Yolo I called him out every day to do more and he tried to derail my push on Ender. Due diligence is fine and all but if you're a villager you don't seem to have much conviction on who you think the last wolf is, and ISOing Dya/Visor seems like busy work.
If it's Syn, I called him out for his first two posts and his game is generally been pretty coasty. You see a similar style in plenty of games where wolves hellbus a partner and then just live off that cred for days. And they're doing approximately nothing today.
I have pretty much laid out the case on myself and those will be the same arguments I make later in the game. No one seems to really have a reaction to my posts today, but I feel pretty confident that whoever the last villager(s) alive with me should be able to get there.
If it's Syn, I called him out for his first two posts and his game is generally been pretty coasty. You see a similar style in plenty of games where wolves hellbus a partner and then just live off that cred for days. And they're doing approximately nothing today.
ngl it's kind of funny that ever since I said "this is in my wolf range" that it's become the primary case against me (re: hellbussing a partner all game and riding off that cred)
besides patting myself on the back, the above is meant to indicate that I can't really have been "living off the cred" of a hellbus when for the majority of the game I was dismissed as a blind tunneller
besides patting myself on the back, the above is meant to indicate that I can't really have been "living off the cred" of a hellbus when for the majority of the game I was dismissed as a blind tunneller
It’s just automatically closer to your wolfrange than mine, I don’t play wolf this way.
But moreover I just think that your game has been multitudes less villagery than mine. I don’t really remember any thoughts you’ve had besides
D1:
stuff that kicked off the Syn-HK-Ender debacle
“Chopping Zelda is lame”
D2:
Kill Ender
D3:
Kill Ender
D4:
Killer Ender
Like what’s your confidence level on Dya being villager? What about Yolo? Visor? I don’t think anyone really knows what your view has been.
Like what’s your confidence level on Dya being villager? What about Yolo? Visor? I don’t think anyone really knows what your view has been.
FMPOV, the game ends upon either your death or Yolo's. Dya and Visor are not wolves.
I don't especially care the order of who dies first. I'd prefer you first, because of the panic and AtE, and how you tried real hard the past phase to get Ender an out, but I would not be upset if everyone else insisted on Yolo first.
Your best bet, really, is to convince Visor and Dya to turn on me, and to maybe get ladd/Ephemeral to throw their lot in behind that idea too before they get NKed. You have the WIM and play style to try and make that happen.
FMPOV, the game ends upon either your death or Yolo's. Dya and Visor are not wolves.
I don't especially care the order of who dies first. I'd prefer you first, because of the panic and AtE, and how you tried real hard the past phase to get Ender an out, but I would not be upset if everyone else insisted on Yolo first.
Your best bet, really, is to convince Visor and Dya to turn on me, and to maybe get ladd/Ephemeral to throw their lot in behind that idea too before they get NKed. You have the WIM and play style to try and make that happen.
How did I try to give Ender an out? I’m not panicking, I’m trying to figure things out. I’m a little concerned that Yolo is not a wolf, and you’re the one who’s spent the whole day shading me.
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