Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Lapras]

Lapras iso whoo.

Claims they are a Lapras twice, filler, filler, calls robyn tring cape/visor a stretch (probably not w/w with either of those two), Lapras chooses to keep their secrets from illario, questions robyn about cape's range, gives robyn a town read based on that answer...

It's at this point Vulgard steps in to vote Lapras. Tells vulgard to just call it what it is, which is shade. Says Vul is town for multi tiered thinking but hedges with vul's wolfing skills. Likes Rask' manner of dealing with pressure. Tone reads Syn town. Says wiz could be wolfing. Comes along with Cape being town due to his analysis.


@Lapras this is a very strange question to ask when you consider the fact that you said this:



To phrase this another way, "I don't see what I am doing is wolfy. How is it any different than my wolf read?" That feels like a really unintuitive thought to have from a town perspective. Think Boq could have some equity as a partner in Lapras worlds though since Lapras' bringing them up here feels especially random to me given they are one of the few people who Lapras hasn't given any reads on and then suddenly a Boq mention.

Lapras also didn't comment on me at all, smh.



I still don't get how you arrive to that specific question naturally, but I'll iso vul later to see how this suspicion fits within the flow of vul's posting about Lapras today.

@Achro

Because the reasons vul is tunnelled on me (which imo as you show isnt even true) doesnt only apply to me. It applies to other people.

I wolf read some of those ppl but not becahse of the reason vul wolf reads me, because of my own reasons.

Also- vul is saying no one is talking about me when im like effectively top wagon which actually seems towny cuz its so out of touch

Im either at hes a wolf doing the classic d1 power wolf vibe where you identtify an early scum read n just focus on that. Neopest in both champs game for e.g.

Flip is hes a tunnelled town really actually thinking hes found a wolf but ill just say its gunna be embarrassing when i flip town for him given:
A) others are acting like i did wrt the reasons hes scum reading me
B) some ppl with meta reads are tring me
C) hes writing reams about it

[Lapras]

Also fwiw ive had a baby and am quite busy + 1 handed phone posting when i do play. I subbed in as was asked by ben + robyn had been hounding me to play

Dont expect me to post walls or in depth thoughts or isoing or anything

[Vulgard]

the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions

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also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him

[Achro]

the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions

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also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him

Well hey now you've got mine.

Speaking of @illario - what about cape and Wisdom sprcifically make you think their solves are good?

[illario]

Well hey now you've got mine.

Speaking of @illario - what about cape and Wisdom sprcifically make you think their solves are good?

hmm dont really have specifics lol. i just like where theyre heading and i think theyre more correct than any other solves ive seen so far

[Cape90]

hmm dont really have specifics lol. i just like where theyre heading and i think theyre more correct than any other solves ive seen so far

the same person who just earlier only had 1 light wolfread on a 5 poster? (me)

[illario]

the same person who just earlier only had 1 light wolfread on a 5 poster? (me)

A light wolfread on a potential hit is better than a confident wolfread on a definite miss. Also I believe I was vibing with ur towncore list

[illario]

the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions

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also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him

its still there lol, i just havent followed it up. notice how both are in wisdoms poe and i said i like where her solve is heading?

[Lapras]

the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions

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also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him

Just fwiw i dont think youve been engsging ppl for opinions on right way which is why i fond it suss

There are ppl town reading me , ask them specifically to engage you to get info

There are ppl sponging your read- rask, nut.

I think your just wall dropping

To be fair though ive not read or registered the full game

[Vulgard]

Just fwiw i dont think youve been engsging ppl for opinions on right way which is why i fond it suss

There are ppl town reading me , ask them specifically to engage you to get info

There are ppl sponging your read- rask, nut.

I think your just wall dropping

To be fair though ive not read or registered the full game

fmpov if people do actually care enough about their townreads they will defend them on their own especially when prompted

[Lapras]

fmpov if people do actually care enough about their townreads they will defend them on their own especially when prompted

I think that works if theyre in thread at same time but doesn't always happen

[Vulgard]

I think that works if theyre in thread at same time but doesn't always happen

fair enough i suppose

i need to think

[Vulgard]

achro writing us (me and lapras) off as v/v here intuitively pings me as wolfy but I guess I can see it coming from town specifically because it's achro

[Vulgard]

lapras do you have any wolfreads that aren't omgus

[Lapras]

lapras do you have any wolfreads that aren't omgus

Iso me imo

[Vulgard]

Man I know it ended with me being towny but that read was hard earned after isoing both of you and thinking of how you two have talked past each other a bit. Come on 'write off'

oh i didn't mean it in that way

just having that v/v take is uh

a somewhat questionable way of handling the situation fmpov but maybe i'm biased and i already said i can see it coming from town because it's you so w/e

its still there lol, i just havent followed it up. notice how both are in wisdoms poe and i said i like where her solve is heading?

fair enough

Iso me imo

you have one comment about wisdom being wolfy and then it's all about me which is omgus

do you still wolfread wisdom?

[Lapras]

oh i didn't mean it in that way

just having that v/v take is uh

a somewhat questionable way of handling the situation fmpov but maybe i'm biased and i already said i can see it coming from town because it's you so w/e



fair enough



you have one comment about wisdom being wolfy and then it's all about me which is omgus

do you still wolfread wisdom?

I dont think it is?

Ive got robyn as towny fs, tr syn by tone, think capes now reallt towny which i spoke about AND early on trd you too (bjt now i see wolf angle.)

I found wizzs town n entry kinda wolfy but ive nlt verified it was a gut tone thing.

Rask i found super wolfy but then thought he handled pressure really well so towny too

Boq/illario im gunna wait before deciding cuz i can go either way on both

[Achro]

achro writing us (me and lapras) off as v/v here intuitively pings me as wolfy but I guess I can see it coming from town specifically because it's achro

Man I know it ended with me being towny but that read was hard earned after isoing both of you and thinking of how you two have talked past each other a bit. Come on 'write off'

[ladd]

sap, not gonna be mega useful today prob but i managed to skim a bit

think boq feels the worst to me tho it's not really a SUPER wolf read or anything

[illario]

sap, not gonna be mega useful today prob but i managed to skim a bit

think boq feels the worst to me tho it's not really a SUPER wolf read or anything

can u elaborate?

[Vulgard]

can u elaborate?

yeah i'm interested as well

[dyachei]

got pinged by his first post..cause like this doesnt feel like a real reason to villa read someone (w/w got em eheh) but it doesnt read like a joke either

my biggest problem is his wisdom read:



this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:





feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah

i have caught wolves before with this tell

and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq


(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)

sap, not gonna be mega useful today prob but i managed to skim a bit

think boq feels the worst to me tho it's not really a SUPER wolf read or anything

these @illario

[robyn]

dya what’s ur read on me and do you have any anti consensus reads

[Cape90]

these @illario

oh about suspecting boq

[Wisdom]

On another note bff is sleeping on my shoulder and my fingers are numb send help

[Lapras]

On another note bff is sleeping on my shoulder and my fingers are numb send help

No help needed thats a treat

[Achro]

@Achro

Because the reasons vul is tunnelled on me (which imo as you show isnt even true) doesnt only apply to me. It applies to other people.

I wolf read some of those ppl but not becahse of the reason vul wolf reads me, because of my own reasons.

Also- vul is saying no one is talking about me when im like effectively top wagon which actually seems towny cuz its so out of touch

Im either at hes a wolf doing the classic d1 power wolf vibe where you identtify an early scum read n just focus on that. Neopest in both champs game for e.g.

Flip is hes a tunnelled town really actually thinking hes found a wolf but ill just say its gunna be embarrassing when i flip town for him given:
A) others are acting like i did wrt the reasons hes scum reading me
B) some ppl with meta reads are tring me
C) hes writing reams about it

I will say I liked your content until that interaction tbh. I was surprised how much you had managed to say. I don't like how you phrased it still but maybe that's me seeing a shadow thats not there.

But otoh I don't think he has done a big tunnel on you or anything. I just iso'd him and made a note but he has been poking around as well. Based on the fact that I think both of you are off base and kind of going at it I feel like you could both easily be town here. While you both have this and that I don't love ultimately you both have actually provided a decent array of content today and haven't actually been staring any one thing down tbh.

So if not for vul who else is catching your eye negatively? I will also accept possible vul scumbuddies of you insist on narrowing in on vul but I want to know where you are atm

[Cape90]

@Achro

Because the reasons vul is tunnelled on me (which imo as you show isnt even true) doesnt only apply to me. It applies to other people.

I wolf read some of those ppl but not becahse of the reason vul wolf reads me, because of my own reasons.

Also- vul is saying no one is talking about me when im like effectively top wagon which actually seems towny cuz its so out of touch

Im either at hes a wolf doing the classic d1 power wolf vibe where you identtify an early scum read n just focus on that. Neopest in both champs game for e.g.

Flip is hes a tunnelled town really actually thinking hes found a wolf but ill just say its gunna be embarrassing when i flip town for him given:
A) others are acting like i did wrt the reasons hes scum reading me
B) some ppl with meta reads are tring me
C) hes writing reams about it

defensive
also this isn't inherently wolfy behavior from his end.