Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Achro]

Caught up.

Town for today:
Cape
Dya?(solid 1 post lol)
Ender
Visor

Wolf for today

Achro
Boq
Nutella?
Rask
Syn

Forgot they played
Illario
Robyn
Vulgard

Hello Wisdom. Have you played with rask before?

[Wisdom]

Hello Wisdom. Have you played with rask before?

10 games or so?
I think I've only seen him wolf when I've wolfed before.
I find his treatment of me a bit too non-commital and I think his focus isn't really on catching wolves. However, that applies to Syn too and I don't think they're w/w.

[Wisdom]

However, I'm more used to being town read by wolves than wolf read by wolves (or at least those wolves who has wolf read me lately has been kinda outting about it). That's what made me read Cape wrong last time, but I think he's just town now. Boq has made a similar town read on me as town before but I feel that he's being a bit... empty right now.

Meanwhile Syn's and Rask's wolf read on me seems to mostly be for shiz and giggles (We're out of game friends fyi).

Welcome to Wisdom reads people based on how they read them.

[Achro]

10 games or so?
I think I've only seen him wolf when I've wolfed before.
I find his treatment of me a bit too non-commital and I think his focus isn't really on catching wolves. However, that applies to Syn too and I don't think they're w/w.

Ah I was going go ask if he is the type of wolf to fake not knowing who I was. Earlier we had a conversation where he thought I was someone named Tim and I thought this likely made rask uninformed.
@Boquise hi. Earlier you said I processed vul fast and I quoted you with a question mark. This was meant to signify I didn't know what you were talking about. While I have you here, earlier you townread cape for digesting my posts but upon reading your iso you have not given a single thought about me in either direction. Am I that uninteresting? What do you think of the game state so far? Are we likely to catch a wolf today?

Also unless people chime in specifically saying rask would think to act uninformed about my identity I think your vote is misplaced.

[Wisdom]

I liked your RP btw Achro.
I find phone posting to be weird here so I read more than I write when I'm not at pc, but still wanted to point that out :>

[Achro]

I liked your RP btw Achro.
I find phone posting to be weird here so I read more than I write when I'm not at pc, but still wanted to point that out :>

If I am alive day 2 I will bring it back. I enjoyed doing it but no one was saying anything to me while I did it so that was probably going to do more harm than good today.

I enjoy reading people based off how they read me too. Something something known variables.

[Wisdom]

Ah I was going go ask if he is the type of wolf to fake not knowing who I was. Earlier we had a conversation where he thought I was someone named Tim and I thought this likely made rask uninformed.
@Boquise hi. Earlier you said I processed vul fast and I quoted you with a question mark. This was meant to signify I didn't know what you were talking about. While I have you here, earlier you townread cape for digesting my posts but upon reading your iso you have not given a single thought about me in either direction. Am I that uninteresting? What do you think of the game state so far? Are we likely to catch a wolf today?

Also unless people chime in specifically saying rask would think to act uninformed about my identity I think your vote is misplaced.

I think that's NAI of Rask. As I recall he wasn't present during your existance-arc on mu, and him referring Tim is just because Tim was a prominent player from the same site as Rask but have been MIA since he got canceled.

[Visor]

good chat everyone, we'll reconvene tomorrow

[Wisdom]

If I am alive day 2 I will bring it back. I enjoyed doing it but no one was saying anything to me while I did it so that was probably going to do more harm than good today.

I enjoy reading people based off how they read me too. Something something known variables.

Something something indeed.

[Achro]

I think that's NAI of Rask. As I recall he wasn't present during your existance-arc on mu, and him referring Tim is just because Tim was a prominent player from the same site as Rask but have been MIA since he got canceled.

What I mean is I typically expect scum teams to discuss players among themselves and at least id everyone. I know some scum would exploit this line of thought to appear uninformed. I have no doubt that rask wouldn't know me otherwise.

[illario]

my tired work brain thinks wisdoms recent posts are decent

[Achro]

good chat everyone, we'll reconvene tomorrow

Come back we haven't interacted enough they will catch on we are w/w if we don't have a back and forth.

[illario]

wisdom/cape probs the closest to solving the game atm if theyre villas so id kinda leave both be probs

[Lapras]

Lapras iso whoo.

Claims they are a Lapras twice, filler, filler, calls robyn tring cape/visor a stretch (probably not w/w with either of those two), Lapras chooses to keep their secrets from illario, questions robyn about cape's range, gives robyn a town read based on that answer...

It's at this point Vulgard steps in to vote Lapras. Tells vulgard to just call it what it is, which is shade. Says Vul is town for multi tiered thinking but hedges with vul's wolfing skills. Likes Rask' manner of dealing with pressure. Tone reads Syn town. Says wiz could be wolfing. Comes along with Cape being town due to his analysis.


@Lapras this is a very strange question to ask when you consider the fact that you said this:



To phrase this another way, "I don't see what I am doing is wolfy. How is it any different than my wolf read?" That feels like a really unintuitive thought to have from a town perspective. Think Boq could have some equity as a partner in Lapras worlds though since Lapras' bringing them up here feels especially random to me given they are one of the few people who Lapras hasn't given any reads on and then suddenly a Boq mention.

Lapras also didn't comment on me at all, smh.



I still don't get how you arrive to that specific question naturally, but I'll iso vul later to see how this suspicion fits within the flow of vul's posting about Lapras today.

@Achro

Because the reasons vul is tunnelled on me (which imo as you show isnt even true) doesnt only apply to me. It applies to other people.

I wolf read some of those ppl but not becahse of the reason vul wolf reads me, because of my own reasons.

Also- vul is saying no one is talking about me when im like effectively top wagon which actually seems towny cuz its so out of touch

Im either at hes a wolf doing the classic d1 power wolf vibe where you identtify an early scum read n just focus on that. Neopest in both champs game for e.g.

Flip is hes a tunnelled town really actually thinking hes found a wolf but ill just say its gunna be embarrassing when i flip town for him given:
A) others are acting like i did wrt the reasons hes scum reading me
B) some ppl with meta reads are tring me
C) hes writing reams about it

[Lapras]

Also fwiw ive had a baby and am quite busy + 1 handed phone posting when i do play. I subbed in as was asked by ben + robyn had been hounding me to play

Dont expect me to post walls or in depth thoughts or isoing or anything

[Wisdom]

What I mean is I typically expect scum teams to discuss players among themselves and at least id everyone. I know some scum would exploit this line of thought to appear uninformed. I have no doubt that rask wouldn't know me otherwise.

Mmmmaybe? I mean, I can see him wolfing, just not sure that's a reason I'm vibing with. I rarely do an id check on players as wolf unless to pocket someone.

[Wisdom]

On another note bff is sleeping on my shoulder and my fingers are numb send help

[Achro]

@Achro

Because the reasons vul is tunnelled on me (which imo as you show isnt even true) doesnt only apply to me. It applies to other people.

I wolf read some of those ppl but not becahse of the reason vul wolf reads me, because of my own reasons.

Also- vul is saying no one is talking about me when im like effectively top wagon which actually seems towny cuz its so out of touch

Im either at hes a wolf doing the classic d1 power wolf vibe where you identtify an early scum read n just focus on that. Neopest in both champs game for e.g.

Flip is hes a tunnelled town really actually thinking hes found a wolf but ill just say its gunna be embarrassing when i flip town for him given:
A) others are acting like i did wrt the reasons hes scum reading me
B) some ppl with meta reads are tring me
C) hes writing reams about it

I will say I liked your content until that interaction tbh. I was surprised how much you had managed to say. I don't like how you phrased it still but maybe that's me seeing a shadow thats not there.

But otoh I don't think he has done a big tunnel on you or anything. I just iso'd him and made a note but he has been poking around as well. Based on the fact that I think both of you are off base and kind of going at it I feel like you could both easily be town here. While you both have this and that I don't love ultimately you both have actually provided a decent array of content today and haven't actually been staring any one thing down tbh.

So if not for vul who else is catching your eye negatively? I will also accept possible vul scumbuddies of you insist on narrowing in on vul but I want to know where you are atm

[Achro]

Mmmmaybe? I mean, I can see him wolfing, just not sure that's a reason I'm vibing with. I rarely do an id check on players as wolf unless to pocket someone.

To be clear I think he is town, Wisdom. I am town reading rask for not knowing me.

[Vulgard]

the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions

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also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him

[Vulgard]

achro writing us (me and lapras) off as v/v here intuitively pings me as wolfy but I guess I can see it coming from town specifically because it's achro

[Wisdom]

To be clear I think he is town, Wisdom. I am town reading rask for not knowing me.

Oh I thought you meant he was faking it
Confbias go brrrr

[Vulgard]

lapras do you have any wolfreads that aren't omgus

[Achro]

the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions

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also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him

Well hey now you've got mine.

Speaking of @illario - what about cape and Wisdom sprcifically make you think their solves are good?

[Achro]

achro writing us (me and lapras) off as v/v here intuitively pings me as wolfy but I guess I can see it coming from town specifically because it's achro

Man I know it ended with me being towny but that read was hard earned after isoing both of you and thinking of how you two have talked past each other a bit. Come on 'write off'

[Achro]

Oh I thought you meant he was faking it
Confbias go brrrr

Hah yeah I saw he was in your wolf camp so I asked you about it so I can say I disagree with that read pretty strongly unless there is evidence he is that level of sneaky. If you iso rask you can see how he said it. Felt super genuine.

[Lapras]

lapras do you have any wolfreads that aren't omgus

Iso me imo

[illario]

the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions

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also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him

its still there lol, i just havent followed it up. notice how both are in wisdoms poe and i said i like where her solve is heading?

[ladd]

sap, not gonna be mega useful today prob but i managed to skim a bit

think boq feels the worst to me tho it's not really a SUPER wolf read or anything

[illario]

oh wait wisdom has ender as town, ill have to see what happened there