Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Vulgard]

was meant to answer illario post obv


game feels like medium difficulty. if you want a "spicy" take is ender/boq w/W and nutella/wisdom/syn v/v/v

dunno if those are even considered spicy but i saw the second trio get pushed a bunch

i like the latter take honestly

though i'm not 100% on wisdom at the moment

with wisdom there's typically a moment when they post something and i call it based because it clicks and then i unconditionally defend wisdom for the rest of the game and they flip town

or they're mafia and it doesn't happen lol

[Visor]

dont really have much to say about either

neither striked me as villagery so they ended up there. i assume dya will make themselves obvious 1 way or the other eventually

thoughts on achro/vulgard/wisdom?

[Achro]

thoughts on achro/vulgard/wisdom?

Visor the man has like 10 posts did you not read all of them?

[ladd]

thoughts on achro/vulgard/wisdom?

part of why i have wisdom high is cause idt they are w/w with boq and boq read there feels either tmi or right

some of wisdom posts were weird but i also ended up thinking they are more likely v than not independently. the boq stuff just makes me feel better about it

the stuff about you does feel more villagery than not overall and their posting feels careless in a way i associate with their villa game



genuinely havent read achro posts at all


vulgard is the most consistently player who appears to be geuninley solving without agenda. ngl i kidna just wrote them off as v at some point and stopped paying too much attention to their posting. feel p good about them being v

[illario]

ladd might have me pocketed lol, which is probs towny since i dont think he would care enough to do that as a wolf when im pretty slankly/useless atm. also hes probs not even aware of the pocket to begin with

[robyn]

ladd might have me topped lol, which is probs towny since i dont think he would care enough to do that as a wolf when im pretty slankly/useless atm. also hes probs not even aware of the top to begin with

this reminds me, i need a new word for pocket

edited above message, wonder if it works

[ladd]

ladd might have me pocketed lol, which is probs towny since i dont think he would care enough to do that as a wolf when im pretty slankly/useless atm. also hes probs not even aware of the pocket to begin with

you are right i have no clue what you are talking about lol

but i'll pocket you any day

[illario]

vote: Wisdom

I can totally see Boq too rn

ladd did a good job of summing up rask in that post. also saw this earlier which i thought was a bit of a pingy sequence in worlds where wisdom is town and boq isnt. like i sorta expect if he genuinely thinks he can see a boq world as wolf then that should put some pause in his wisdom read but yeah tldr: the sequence of voting wisdom but then saying u can see a world where the person most likely not to be a wolf with wisdom without then going to re-evaluate the wisdom read feels kinda iffy.

but yeah still not enough to undo my earlier townread on rask. so i suppose ive had a very similar dilemma with rask in my head where i think his posting and tone has been towny but there still been moments of iffyness and ladd having a similar process there was enough to pocket me ig.

[illario]

oh yeah and he also put into words my thoughts on the wisdom/boq dynamic so that + the rask stuff was enough for me to like ladd

[Cape90]

For as question-y as illario has been, I feel like they have been oddly dis-concerned about my vote on them. It was somewhat addressed but they haven't been super defensive about it.

Sigh

Wisdom voted Visor "unironically" then unvoted later on with their meta reason provided. Given the fact that Wisdom described Visor's play as deflated, I would assume it would just be so easy for mafia Wisdom to try pushing that angle onto Visor if Wisdom is mafia right? Instead Wisdom pretty much immediately gave up on it after, I am assuming, reading more stuff, which is reflected in Wisdom's logs.

@Raskolnikov I feel like I addressed the main concern here about my read on that one Wisdom instance here before you pinged me

However, I'm more used to being town read by wolves than wolf read by wolves (or at least those wolves who has wolf read me lately has been kinda outting about it). That's what made me read Cape wrong last time, but I think he's just town now. Boq has made a similar town read on me as town before but I feel that he's being a bit... empty right now.

Meanwhile Syn's and Rask's wolf read on me seems to mostly be for shiz and giggles (We're out of game friends fyi).

Welcome to Wisdom reads people based on how they read them.

I do tend to make similar reads when it comes to treatment of my slot. I do have some concerns in this department when it comes to you (and Boq's treatment of that).

1. For how you criticize boq for feeling empty, I can't help but have the same feeling about your townread on me. "Cape townread me as wolf when he wolfed, but I think he's town this time" is rather shallow. What's different? What makes me towny this game?

2. I had problems with boq's treatment of you that I would like to address by me quoting... a ladd post

my biggest problem is his wisdom read:

That is the first post I side-eye in this game

but knowing how Wis usually posts as town and how they can get scum read by phrasings like that, I am leaning to town read that

this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:

it is wednesday my dudes and i bring you news from the front

wisdom is a wolf

Nah

feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah

i have caught wolves before with this tell

and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq


(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)

(also gonna put 148 and 246 for context ).

The problem I have with it is that I KNOW Boquise has a good amount of experience with Wisdom so putting out the initial reaction to the Wisdom post in the first place does strike me as odd. Like it is a read that I feel he should be confident on as he has expressed, but it really doesn't come off that way when Boq made his initial read.
A v/v game they had, (Gravity Falls), they were suspecting each other fairly early on though and Boq did cite that they usually end up incorrectly scumreading Wisdom and Wisdom was scumreading Boq that game when they were both town so idk. They eventually found each other I believe. But that's a lil meta side tangent.

[illario]

cape u even said u misread me as town a lot, why do you think id be concerned about your vote on me? im used to it lol

[ladd]

ladd did a good job of summing up rask in that post. also saw this earlier which i thought was a bit of a pingy sequence in worlds where wisdom is town and boq isnt. like i sorta expect if he genuinely thinks he can see a boq world as wolf then that should put some pause in his wisdom read but yeah tldr: the sequence of voting wisdom but then saying u can see a world where the person most likely not to be a wolf with wisdom without then going to re-evaluate the wisdom read feels kinda iffy.

but yeah still not enough to undo my earlier townread on rask. so i suppose ive had a very similar dilemma with rask in my head where i think his posting and tone has been towny but there still been moments of iffyness and ladd having a similar process there was enough to pocket me ig.

fwiw i dont think rask is the type to care much about association so that particular sequence doesnt really concern me tbh

[Cape90]

wisdom/cape probs the closest to solving the game atm if theyre villas so id kinda leave both be probs

why is Wisdom in this grouping? You could point to someone like Achro or Vulgard or Rask but why them?

[illario]

why is Wisdom in this grouping? You could point to someone like Achro or Vulgard or Rask but why them?

because i think shes more correct than them. rask thinks me and vulgard are w/w. achro thinks vulgard is w (i dont remember any of his other pushes). and vulgard thinks im w.

[illario]

fwiw i dont think rask is the type to care much about association so that particular sequence doesnt really concern me tbh

cool so hes just town then and im worrying for nothing

[Cape90]

hmm dont really have specifics lol. i just like where theyre heading and i think theyre more correct than any other solves ive seen so far

the same person who just earlier only had 1 light wolfread on a 5 poster? (me)

[ladd]

So does this make me the closest now?

[robyn]

illario and cape are v hmmmm

[Cape90]

I found wizzs town n entry kinda wolfy but ive nlt verified it was a gut tone thing.

who?

[Cape90]

Wisdom

nvm lol

[Cape90]

ladd = towny

was meant to answer illario post obv


game feels like medium difficulty. if you want a "spicy" take is ender/boq w/W and nutella/wisdom/syn v/v/v

dunno if those are even considered spicy but i saw the second trio get pushed a bunch

how was syn pushed a bunch?

[ladd]

ladd = towny



how was syn pushed a bunch?

syn was pushing the other 2 but i was too lazy to put into words the dynamic so just said pushed

[Boquise]

Ah I was going go ask if he is the type of wolf to fake not knowing who I was. Earlier we had a conversation where he thought I was someone named Tim and I thought this likely made rask uninformed.
@Boquise hi. Earlier you said I processed vul fast and I quoted you with a question mark. This was meant to signify I didn't know what you were talking about. While I have you here, earlier you townread cape for digesting my posts but upon reading your iso you have not given a single thought about me in either direction. Am I that uninteresting? What do you think of the game state so far? Are we likely to catch a wolf today?

Also unless people chime in specifically saying rask would think to act uninformed about my identity I think your vote is misplaced.

It was a snide remark. I stated that because to me, you said you would keep voting Vulgard and believe in the process but then you quickly changed vote, which was funny to me

I think Cape actually sponging off of your wall is rand>town because his post was based on what you said and built on it, which I dont think a wolf would really care to do. Cape was basically being independently solvy in his response to your post.

I dont have any read of you at the moment since I know you are wall-y as both alignments. I am waiting to see how your pushes go. I dunno if we will catch a wolf today - I am currently poking around and I will have an easier time when I've had a few flips.

My Rask vote has nothing to do with you. Why did you assume that?

[Boquise]

However, I'm more used to being town read by wolves than wolf read by wolves (or at least those wolves who has wolf read me lately has been kinda outting about it). That's what made me read Cape wrong last time, but I think he's just town now. Boq has made a similar town read on me as town before but I feel that he's being a bit... empty right now.

Meanwhile Syn's and Rask's wolf read on me seems to mostly be for shiz and giggles (We're out of game friends fyi).

Welcome to Wisdom reads people based on how they read them.

Explain empty

[Cape90]

well, it's time to do the Cabbage Man dance since now is the time I think illario is town this game. I like their ladd interactions.

Lemme just work things out in my head.

-Dya townreading me is a bit odd for them, just a bit atypical. But they have been dealing with stuff so.

-Lapras honestly just sounds like town to me. Getting those vibes recently.

-Boq certainly has some awkwardly worded posts, which I have found from his town game meta dive so eh? One read I found particularly awkward was that "nutella having an organic thought process" post. (455). As Boq said himself, a lil cheeky and cute. 418 is ??? shade (used mayyybe loosely) on nutella but it's weird as it pertains to him being pushed which makes me wonder in the case that the post is serious enough that there is an underlying of suspecting nutella?? There is definitely Boq this game being self-righteous and vibey which counts for something probably.

-Robyn is someone who I feel inclined to vote if it wasn't for me vibing with their reads and me also thinking they would just be good to keep around for... reasons.

-Most of EnderWiggin's content is low impact for me just reading it slowly and digesting it so I think I likey that vote and am confused why nobody else thinks this way this game specifically.

Vote: EnderWiggin

[Visor]

agree vulgard seems fine

[Cape90]

wait robyn will take my wording of reasons the wrong way

let's just say I think you will have good reads if you are town in a later game scenario and not push villagers like you did on the syndicate

[Boquise]

got pinged by his first post..cause like this doesnt feel like a real reason to villa read someone (w/w got em eheh) but it doesnt read like a joke either

my biggest problem is his wisdom read:



this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:





feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah

i have caught wolves before with this tell

and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq


(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)

I like to snap town read people for minimal reasons to see what happens, hence the Ender read. If people make a thing about the read, opposing it, it tends to be scum who dislikes it that I am apparently clearing other town for flimsy reasons, and they use that to shade me

You are criticising me for lacking snap judgements, but simultaneously having problems with me having a snap judgement on both Ender and Wisdom.

[Cape90]

Bet im right though

Think wiz might be wolfing though

To phrase this another way, "I don't see what I am doing is wolfy. How is it any different than my wolf read?" That feels like a really unintuitive thought to have from a town perspective. Think Boq could have some equity as a partner in Lapras worlds though since Lapras' bringing them up here feels especially random to me given they are one of the few people who Lapras hasn't given any reads on and then suddenly a Boq mention.

You walked away with a townread on Boq right?

[Cape90]

I was gonna bring up a point that Syn has also been saying things with a good amount of confidence and sent that to ladd when I was talking about the Boq thing