Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Cape90]

You walked away with a townread on Boq right?

on lapras right?

[Achro]

It was a snide remark. I stated that because to me, you said you would keep voting Vulgard and believe in the process but then you quickly changed vote, which was funny to me

I think Cape actually sponging off of your wall is rand>town because his post was based on what you said and built on it, which I dont think a wolf would really care to do. Cape was basically being independently solvy in his response to your post.

I dont have any read of you at the moment since I know you are wall-y as both alignments. I am waiting to see how your pushes go. I dunno if we will catch a wolf today - I am currently poking around and I will have an easier time when I've had a few flips.

My Rask vote has nothing to do with you. Why did you assume that?

I didn't say it had anything to do with me, I just was letting you know my opinion about it.

What scum games of mine have you seen to get your opinion a out my scum game?

Cape does give off pretty fuzzy vibes so far so I can't fault you there.

As for the snide remark, fair enough.
@Cape90 the last time I played with ender over on the syndicate he was pretty chill day one and it drove me nuts so I helped get him lynched. He flipped town and sparing the other wagon actually ended up really screwing town. I would need to know why low impact ender in a chill game is specifically problematic because I have heard this song before. I am trying not to repeat mistakes this year lol

[Boquise]

For as question-y as illario has been, I feel like they have been oddly dis-concerned about my vote on them. It was somewhat addressed but they haven't been super defensive about it.



@Raskolnikov I feel like I addressed the main concern here about my read on that one Wisdom instance here before you pinged me



I do tend to make similar reads when it comes to treatment of my slot. I do have some concerns in this department when it comes to you (and Boq's treatment of that).

1. For how you criticize boq for feeling empty, I can't help but have the same feeling about your townread on me. "Cape townread me as wolf when he wolfed, but I think he's town this time" is rather shallow. What's different? What makes me towny this game?

2. I had problems with boq's treatment of you that I would like to address by me quoting... a ladd post



(also gonna put 148 and 246 for context ).

The problem I have with it is that I KNOW Boquise has a good amount of experience with Wisdom so putting out the initial reaction to the Wisdom post in the first place does strike me as odd. Like it is a read that I feel he should be confident on as he has expressed, but it really doesn't come off that way when Boq made his initial read.
A v/v game they had, (Gravity Falls), they were suspecting each other fairly early on though and Boq did cite that they usually end up incorrectly scumreading Wisdom and Wisdom was scumreading Boq that game when they were both town so idk. They eventually found each other I believe. But that's a lil meta side tangent.

i like to believe that i learn from my mistakes and stuff - i have had a far quicker time town reading Wisdom now than I had during Gravity Falls. I have also sometimes incorrectly town read scum!Wisdom and perhaps only have a 50% rate to walk it back and correctly scum read them. So we will see

[Achro]

on lapras right?

On boq not really.

On lapras yes based off of their reads+ how they described their suspicion of vul. It feels like a townie who is pushing back against what they think is a bad push with a push of their own that feels biased in the right way. Like an actual omgus versus -'heh heh heh I will plan this omgus as a scum'

[ladd]

I like to snap town read people for minimal reasons to see what happens, hence the Ender read. If people make a thing about the read, opposing it, it tends to be scum who dislikes it that I am apparently clearing other town for flimsy reasons, and they use that to shade me

You are criticising me for lacking snap judgements, but simultaneously having problems with me having a snap judgement on both Ender and Wisdom.

is you ender read real?

[Boquise]

well, it's time to do the Cabbage Man dance since now is the time I think illario is town this game. I like their ladd interactions.

Lemme just work things out in my head.

-Dya townreading me is a bit odd for them, just a bit atypical. But they have been dealing with stuff so.

-Lapras honestly just sounds like town to me. Getting those vibes recently.

-Boq certainly has some awkwardly worded posts, which I have found from his town game meta dive so eh? One read I found particularly awkward was that "nutella having an organic thought process" post. (455). As Boq said himself, a lil cheeky and cute. 418 is ??? shade (used mayyybe loosely) on nutella but it's weird as it pertains to him being pushed which makes me wonder in the case that the post is serious enough that there is an underlying of suspecting nutella?? There is definitely Boq this game being self-righteous and vibey which counts for something probably.

-Robyn is someone who I feel inclined to vote if it wasn't for me vibing with their reads and me also thinking they would just be good to keep around for... reasons.

-Most of EnderWiggin's content is low impact for me just reading it slowly and digesting it so I think I likey that vote and am confused why nobody else thinks this way this game specifically.

Vote: EnderWiggin

I dont get what you mean with "cheeky and cute" because thats for a separate post? Post 455 is my favourite post because I had fun writing it tbh. I don't really see how it is awkward. Define awkward.

418 is very serious and I dont understand how it is weird. Nutella seemed cranky that I towned up, which felt like she being a wolf and realising that she can't death tunnel me. She then town read me, which felt like she tried a different approach like pocketing me since I am an easy pocket.

[ladd]

Ha im goated gargle my balls

i laughed at this


i am probably weirdly ok with lapras? even tho i dont understand a good 27% of their posts

[Boquise]

is you ender read real?

If 0% is null on the scale, and negative numbers are wolf reads, and regular numbers are town reads, it is a 5% town lean. I think players being relatable is a good place to start. But it is more important to see how my flimsy reads affect the thread. If Ender is town, people who are trying to talk down the read will have their wolf stocks skyrocketing.

[Boquise]

I didn't say it had anything to do with me, I just was letting you know my opinion about it.

What scum games of mine have you seen to get your opinion a out my scum game?

Cape does give off pretty fuzzy vibes so far so I can't fault you there.

As for the snide remark, fair enough.
@Cape90 the last time I played with ender over on the syndicate he was pretty chill day one and it drove me nuts so I helped get him lynched. He flipped town and sparing the other wagon actually ended up really screwing town. I would need to know why low impact ender in a chill game is specifically problematic because I have heard this song before. I am trying not to repeat mistakes this year lol

Why are you not interested in the reason behind my vote then?

Idr, you feel like a wall-y person regarless, and iirc you have said so in past games too. Is being wall-y nai for you iyo?

[Boquise]

I was gonna bring up a point that Syn has also been saying things with a good amount of confidence and sent that to ladd when I was talking about the Boq thing

it is only wolfy when i do it

[Cape90]

Being low-impact in a chill game isn't problematic I'm just more interested in seeing what ender does going forward after my accusation. There really isn't much to talk about and I know EnderWiggin can be very good with their tone when they play as mafia. I sort of liked the timing of when they called illario town and Vulgard wolf.

Ender is certainly open this game I will also give him that. Not careful feeling with their thoughts with the exception of their said Wisdom wolf read. A little all over the place.

In terms of my vote on them, I am mostly pushing them because I don't really know where else to push and I feel like it's a good bang for my buck type of thing. My whole thing is you should be on a vote if there is no majority. I feel like with all of the attributes that Ender has presented this game, he should be an easy read but he's not for me right now and that's my issue.

[illario]

the same person who just earlier only had 1 light wolfread on a 5 poster? (me)

A light wolfread on a potential hit is better than a confident wolfread on a definite miss. Also I believe I was vibing with ur towncore list

[Cape90]

it is only wolfy when i do it

will keep in mind

[illario]

So does this make me the closest now?

[Achro]

Why are you not interested in the reason behind my vote then?

Idr, you feel like a wall-y person regarless, and iirc you have said so in past games too. Is being wall-y nai for you iyo?

Because I really like my angle there on v rask and I was more interested in protecting a town read than being curious about your vote on that tr specifically. But now that you mention it, why the vote?

I am pretty wall-y when I sit down at my computer as either alignment yeah. It sounds in character for me to mention that at some point, I asked because sometimes people overthink questions as scum and give forced answers. That one felt pretty natural though.

[robyn]

well, it's time to do the Cabbage Man dance since now is the time I think illario is town this game. I like their ladd interactions.

Lemme just work things out in my head.

-Dya townreading me is a bit odd for them, just a bit atypical. But they have been dealing with stuff so.

-Lapras honestly just sounds like town to me. Getting those vibes recently.

-Boq certainly has some awkwardly worded posts, which I have found from his town game meta dive so eh? One read I found particularly awkward was that "nutella having an organic thought process" post. (455). As Boq said himself, a lil cheeky and cute. 418 is ??? shade (used mayyybe loosely) on nutella but it's weird as it pertains to him being pushed which makes me wonder in the case that the post is serious enough that there is an underlying of suspecting nutella?? There is definitely Boq this game being self-righteous and vibey which counts for something probably.

-Robyn is someone who I feel inclined to vote if it wasn't for me vibing with their reads and me also thinking they would just be good to keep around for... reasons.

-Most of EnderWiggin's content is low impact for me just reading it slowly and digesting it so I think I likey that vote and am confused why nobody else thinks this way this game specifically.

Vote: EnderWiggin

i will re read ender and boq bc i figure that harder stances on these two players will be illuminating

[Achro]

Being low-impact in a chill game isn't problematic I'm just more interested in seeing what ender does going forward after my accusation. There really isn't much to talk about and I know EnderWiggin can be very good with their tone when they play as mafia. I sort of liked the timing of when they called illario town and Vulgard wolf.

Ender is certainly open this game I will also give him that. Not careful feeling with their thoughts with the exception of their said Wisdom wolf read. A little all over the place.

In terms of my vote on them, I am mostly pushing them because I don't really know where else to push and I feel like it's a good bang for my buck type of thing. My whole thing is you should be on a vote if there is no majority. I feel like with all of the attributes that Ender has presented this game, he should be an easy read but he's not for me right now and that's my issue.

Well that is a beautiful answer. I'm over here collecting town reads because I have a habit of becoming decidingly unchill when I want to go in on someone. I am learning to temper myself. Be as calm as the lake's surface or somesuch.

Taking bets on team ender/illario/? For most painful for achro's ability to push successfully without rocking back and forth.

[Cape90]

I dont get what you mean with "cheeky and cute" because thats for a separate post? Post 455 is my favourite post because I had fun writing it tbh. I don't really see how it is awkward. Define awkward.

418 is very serious and I dont understand how it is weird. Nutella seemed cranky that I towned up, which felt like she being a wolf and realising that she can't death tunnel me. She then town read me, which felt like she tried a different approach like pocketing me since I am an easy pocket.

I was just jotting down things about how I felt about you, not sure why I sandwiched my thought about you being "cheeky and cute" between those other points. That was just referring to your posts in general. I will blame me doing that on it being 3am for me.

Honestly going back to around the point of 418/455, I don't really like nutella's posts around that area.

Between 418/455 there was

you voting nutella then these series of posts.

nah it's fine

i personally have a hard time narrating all those steps that happen in my brain when i make a read so maybe i am just stressed out by your ability to do so

but i was about to unvote you this is so unfair

vote: achro

back to my vanity wagon since no one else is wolfy lol

ok im lock towning boq forever gg haha

you started vibing very towny and stuff

then you jump straight into 455

Nutella saying that she can't really narrate her thought process
Matches with her explaining her "locking in boq as town forever gg" post with just "you were town vibing and stuff" matches

This is what the pros call organic play, and it is all on display for us all to have a say and comment on during this first day but I also feel like Nut did a mayday and pivoted away from fearsome intimidating awesome payday Boquise with his meta death ray

tbh

which says that nutella is playing organically (i took this as a turn around on nutella)

but then you go on to say that nutella did this as a mayday because they were intimidated by pushing you, which still kinda looks like a wolfread?

IDK I thought the 2 contradicted each other before im typing all this out

But in a way it does feel like 455 is a contradicting message?

[Cape90]

Well that is a beautiful answer. I'm over here collecting town reads because I have a habit of becoming decidingly unchill when I want to go in on someone. I am learning to temper myself. Be as calm as the lake's surface or somesuch.

Taking bets on team ender/illario/? For most painful for achro's ability to push successfully without rocking back and forth.

in this scenario I am probably taking a wild card for me like nutella/vulgard/wisdom because I have to be wrong on someone.

But straightforwardly someone in dyachei/robyn/boq.

I know, I am a real narrow downer

[Visor]

i think nutella is fine

Vote: robyn

[Achro]

Visor is probably town just because he has given no effort to give a single fuck about me. Feels like he played around me more when he was scum.

[ladd]

i think nutella is fine

Vote: robyn

What do you think about rask/syn?

[Visor]

Visor is probably town just because he has given no effort to give a single fuck about me. Feels like he played around me more when he was scum.

i have simply been too busy lol

[Achro]

i have simply been too busy lol

Too late you're town.

Also I am manually remembering I have seen you as town over on syndicate. Weirdest n1 kill ever tbh

[Visor]

What do you think about rask/syn?

rask is fine enough for d1 from what i saw (though ive got my eye on him from a few posts)

syn seems fine (more engaged than the last game i think though - which could be fun if hes a wolf)

[Visor]

Too late you're town.

Also I am manually remembering I have seen you as town over on syndicate. Weirdest n1 kill ever tbh

yeah i nearly mentioned this to you earlier but figured it didnt matter

think i was just shot to not rock the boat or something idk

[Achro]

yeah i nearly mentioned this to you earlier but figured it didnt matter

think i was just shot to not rock the boat or something idk

At least you were avenged day 2. We won't talk about the rest of the game lol

[illario]

i think my vote is still on rask from rvs, i should probably change it to something more useful

[Visor]

i will endeavour to look over this game on the weekend but right now im in a brain fog

wheres your head at achro

[illario]

vote:abstain