Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[robyn]

Robyn is managing to stand on the line where their alignment is on either side and refuses to jump to either side.

am i just null or have you gotten wolf and town pings

[EnderWiggin]

am i just null or have you gotten wolf and town pings

Yes.

[Lapras]

i’ve cleverly dmed you the exact post where you said that about me

i wasn’t asking for illario to elaborate on why he tr me but i wanted him go take a more assertive position on my alignment because he hasn’t

Exactly

[EnderWiggin]

Syn and Vul are so town that they towned the town in towning mctownerson.

This is all.

[robyn]

Yes.

normally i think it’s a bit of both when people say yes to “or” questions

but it’s mafia and specifics matter

which is it

[EnderWiggin]

normally i think it’s a bit of both when people say yes to “or” questions

but it’s mafia and specifics matter

which is it

Yes.

[Raskolnikov]

Sup,

can someone tl;dr me the lasst 10 pages? I am reading but might take a while.

[robyn]

Sup,

can someone tl;dr me the lasst 10 pages? I am reading but might take a while.

ender is outed because i caught him bedding a twink

[robyn]

Syn and Vul are so town that they towned the town in towning mctownerson.

This is all.

rask near lock town status too then?

[EnderWiggin]

ender is outed because i caught him bedding a twink

Yes

[EnderWiggin]

rask near lock town status too then?

Idk I have to MD his mum first.

[Raskolnikov]

Anyway I have errands to run soon and it isn't out of the possibility that when I am done I just crash so here's a list of people I don't have a good reason to not vote today.

Boq
dyachei
EnderWiggin
illario
ladd
Syn
Wisdom

My lack of a strong feeling of a scum read makes me think I might have a blindspot in my reasoning on one of illario/ender since I am purposefully trying to be distant on those slots to see what develops. But at the same time this could apply to dya as well who is just unable to be here atm. If there is any scum in that group then it only requires a couple of people to be a timely playing well.

I feel like everyone not named I have a good reason to think they are town. Most likely misclears are nutella (relies a bit much on me reading into how they would treat me), robyn (is a bit off from how I imagine they would treat me, or rask (if they are a good power wolf then that uninformed stance would probably be in their wheel house)

I usually miss one smh

Bro, ur wolfy. I have real several post of yours pushing that line: basically I am a wolf because I posted I dunno u.
.
You and Wisdom shading me immediatly after Boq's random vote is somethiing tbh

[ladd]

wisdom can you xpain why you wolfread visor initially?

dont think you ever explained


also why did you give up on thinking visor was a wolf cause everyone villaread him? seems weird given last game

@Wisdom

[Raskolnikov]

Idk I have to MD his mum first.

pls do. with extreme prejudice.

[illario]

i’ve cleverly dmed you the exact post where you said that about me

i wasn’t asking for illario to elaborate on why he tr me but i wanted him go take a more assertive position on my alignment because he hasn’t

oh lol. some stuff from you has pinged me, like the whole made up reads business. still not sure what you were hoping to achieve, for someone who wanted to rush us out of rvs i dont think you have done much with the info in the thread since. most of the reads you have given have felt kinda easy to give and some of them im not sure i buy the explanations to. your continual focus on how im reading you might be towny (?), it usually is >rand v for people in general but i suppose i wouldnt put it past wolf!you to try and keep tabs on me to see if u got me tricked or not since you would probably get satisfaction out of that.

"i will re read ender and boq bc i figure that harder stances on these two players will be illuminating"

kinda liked that post from you


but then some other posts you ask i dont really get, mostly your questions, i dont see where you're going with them

"dya what’s ur read on me and do you have any anti consensus reads"

like this one, not sure why you're particularly concerned with dyas read on you, and not sure why you are concerned about them having anti consensus reads or not since your own reads so far have lined up with consensus. i dont really see how asking any of that helps u solve dya there.

u have a lack of pushes, tbh i dont recall if this is AI for you in any way

ummm what else. ig i think i would expect you to maybe post more as a wolf? Since you have generally been focusing on keeping a high post count in the other games u were a wolf, but you could also be burnt out a bit or be expecting me to expect that so i havent really factored that into my read on you too much.

[robyn]

@ladd iso and give a read on me thanks

[illario]

I'll say this anyway because I like elaborating on all the thoughts I have but illario feels like they often tend to settle back and let other people do reads as wolf, but they explicitly do this kind of thing where they vote/push/do things and then back off it and unvote as if to settle on the back foot and wait for other people to do things so they see where the flow is going?

But I'm not bothering to check this at midnight to see if I'm misremembering.

But also their treatment of me feels off for their town play when we rand v/v.

thats a pretty decent observation, i do infact do that at times as a wolf.

[robyn]

god that post is quite literally solving my slot incarnate and all you’re missing is an ending

yes volume count isn’t ai for me, i’ve proven that much

and i don’t think that pushing people is particularly ai, i’m cautious to push people in this playerlist because most people seem to have meta on one another and i really don’t wanna be wrong

and yeah i haven’t been paying too much attention to this game, yesterday was a midterm worth 25% of my grade lol

[illario]

oh lol. some stuff from you has pinged me, like the whole made up reads business. still not sure what you were hoping to achieve, for someone who wanted to rush us out of rvs i dont think you have done much with the info in the thread since. most of the reads you have given have felt kinda easy to give and some of them im not sure i buy the explanations to. your continual focus on how im reading you might be towny (?), it usually is >rand v for people in general but i suppose i wouldnt put it past wolf!you to try and keep tabs on me to see if u got me tricked or not since you would probably get satisfaction out of that.

"i will re read ender and boq bc i figure that harder stances on these two players will be illuminating"

kinda liked that post from you


but then some other posts you ask i dont really get, mostly your questions, i dont see where you're going with them

"dya what’s ur read on me and do you have any anti consensus reads"

like this one, not sure why you're particularly concerned with dyas read on you, and not sure why you are concerned about them having anti consensus reads or not since your own reads so far have lined up with consensus. i dont really see how asking any of that helps u solve dya there.

u have a lack of pushes, tbh i dont recall if this is AI for you in any way

ummm what else. ig i think i would expect you to maybe post more as a wolf? Since you have generally been focusing on keeping a high post count in the other games u were a wolf, but you could also be burnt out a bit or be expecting me to expect that so i havent really factored that into my read on you too much.

i just realised all of this can be easily summarised with:

"if you're town im struggling to see how anything you have done so far has advanced towns win con in any way, and that is something i expect you can and should be able to do as town"

[Raskolnikov]

vote: Wisdom

Their ISO is just shades and baseless pushes (Visor, me). I don't believe them when they imply they couldn't characterize my wolf game, while proceeding to shade me for the rest of the ISO with Achro's help.

[illario]

but also its d1 and yeah alota people have been taking it easy so its not a smoking gun or anything

[robyn]

ima go back to sleep but that’s not an unfair evaluation

i’ve been busy and generally cautious about over extending myself

too many players i can get wrong etc etc

and midterms r finally over

[illario]

ima go back to sleep but that’s not an unfair evaluation

i’ve been busy and generally cautious about over extending myself

too many players i can get wrong etc etc

and midterms r finally over

why do you care if u get them wrong?

[dyachei]

got pinged by his first post..cause like this doesnt feel like a real reason to villa read someone (w/w got em eheh) but it doesnt read like a joke either

my biggest problem is his wisdom read:



this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:





feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah

i have caught wolves before with this tell

and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq


(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)

robyn, why would I have a read on you at this point?

[robyn]

why do you care if u get them wrong?

cause then i mistunnel a town and i might be overestimating my ability to force a chop here

when i can just wait and push a mafia with more certainty instead of doing anything prematurely

so being wrong is important as i see myself as growing into a more town leader-y playstyle

[robyn]

robyn, why would I have a read on you at this point?

i assume you’ve read the game and i’ve posted 50 times

[dyachei]

i assume you’ve read the game and i’ve posted 50 times

that doesnt mean i have a read on you

[dyachei]

@illario

you and boq need different avatars. It still pings me from you but not as much as if it came from boq. But reading boq's posts again just now has me feeling ok on him with the exception of disliking his rask vote

vote: illario

[robyn]

that doesnt mean i have a read on you

okie

[robyn]

illario u have like 5 votes on u

lead wagon by far atm