Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Boquise]

i literally addressed illario's point though nut. I just didnt explain why the post pinged me initially. so it should have made sense to illario that I would change my vote to him. He literally pointed out that he said it not boq!

Everyone is so obsessed with me tbh

[Boquise]

Idk that's reached

But i feel more comfortable staying on where I have a thought of my own so goodnight


Pssst, this is the perfect time wolves to cfd me. Come at me

[Boquise]

Wisdom thinks i am empty
Illario thinks I am aggressive

If I was a marvel character I'd be Mysterio tbh

[Achro]

chill game
15 paragraphs and a self vote

I mean PROBABLY town just based off the sheer audacity tbh

[Achro]

chill game
15 paragraphs and a self vote

I mean PROBABLY town just based off the sheer audacity tbh

jokes aside though illario and I have basically no disagreements on the pure list so either town or wolves are already kind of boxed.

[Cape90]

ha yeah this is just terrible

i'm reading the wall now and it sucks so far

im either back to being bad at reading you

or you are openwolfing here

[nutella]

im either back to being bad at reading you

or you are openwolfing here

its either the first one

or you are openwolfing here

[robyn]

what the fuck

[Achro]

wild west with votals is familiar to me tbh

I don't really see how anyone sees that big giant wall of self vote and goes 'nah dog let me quote the part about me this sucks lol gg'

Nutella pls

[nutella]

wild west with votals is familiar to me tbh

I don't really see how anyone sees that big giant wall of self vote and goes 'nah dog let me quote the part about me this sucks lol gg'

Nutella pls

you can quite literally see the order of my reactions to it in sequence

1) i see that at postcap lift illario dumps a big wall ending in a self vote, i make a joke about it

2) i start reading it and theres a weird bit about me that doesnt follow from anything, i call it terrible

3) i continue reading it and see some value in his other reads

[nebjiamn]

Votes as of Post #1041 -- Day ends at 7PM EST


Illario (4) EnderWiggin dyachei Vulgard Wisdom
Wisdom (3) Raskolnikov robyn Syn
Robyn (2) Visor Illario
dyachei (1) ladd
Lapras (1) Nutella
Raskolnikov (1) Boquise
Nutella (2) Cape90 Achro




No vote/Unvoted: Lapras

[Achro]

Votes as of Post #1041 -- Day ends at 7PM EST


Illario (4) EnderWiggin dyachei Vulgard Wisdom
Wisdom (3) Raskolnikov robyn Syn
Robyn (2) Visor Illario
dyachei (1) ladd
Lapras (1) Nutella
Raskolnikov (1) Boquise
Nutella (2) Cape90 Achro




No vote/Unvoted: Lapras

Voting Lapras is even worse.

[Lapras]

Im getting family ready for bed sup

[nebjiamn]

Votes as of Post #1089 -- Day ends in 20 minutes
:00 votes good/:01 votes bad

Illario (4) EnderWiggin dyachei Vulgard Wisdom
Wisdom (3) Raskolnikov robyn Syn
Robyn (2) Visor Illario
dyachei (1) ladd
Lapras (1) Nutella
Raskolnikov (1) Boquise
Nutella (2) Cape90 Achro

No vote/Unvoted: Lapras

[Cape90]

im comparing boq's mafia league match 2 game 2's town game to boq's mafia league match 4 game 1's wolf game

This is for the following reasons:
1. consistency, as they were in the same category of game style.
2. both were recent enough

they seemed fairly different to me in many aspects
1. boq's wolf game definitely felt like it had way awkwarder reads that didn't seem mindmeldy to me
2. Boq's town game had generally more thought out posts and the reads felt like they had weight to them rather then "fake weight"??? If that makes sense. Like in his wolf game day 1 he was pretty much burying tonystarkprime who was town and boq didn't really have much of a case there.

Meanwhile I take a look at his town game's day 1 and wow it actually looks villagery and has posts that look like genuine solving.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...20#post6471120
Dropping this town!boq post just because it's certainly better then any number of his wolf posts from the wolf game I am looking at.

And... that leaves me with also just straight up saying
better then this game too

The reads boq has this game are about as whatever as the reads he has made this game and are also pretty much formatted in a similar way too.

There is ofc the consideration of activity which is NAI for Boquise as his wolf game had more posts... but his town game had more to say. And this unfortunately really feels like his wolfgame.

I'm interested in seeing what Boq does today as that would probably be a deciding factor for me for how I feel about the slot. Town!boq had vigor Mafia League Match Two Game Two in day 2 that I would like to see here.

[nutella]

really inauthentic attempts at appearing like she's free-flow solving (though visor bought it ez pz)

saved wisdom yesterday and was instrumental in starting a flash wagon ("are we really going to stay on illario :/" but then voting illario anyway to make sure he died over boquise)

is pushing the counterwagon today while also simultaneously pushing a solve that doesn't contain said counterwagon

I think she has great equity with both vulgard and wisdom, who have each acted in a way to push a coordinated worldview that guarantees nutella and vulgard going to the endgame easily and very likely shields wisdom but lets nutella and vulgard gain cred if wisdom flips

both vulgard and nutella have specifically targeted my push and called it funny, dismissing it entirely out of turn which has encouraged others to dismiss me as a crazed lunatic

I should really just not entertain this post but all of these things are really just town indicative for me and you should know that to at least some extent

especially the holding multiple possible solves part. like yes i kind of just want boq to be a hit now even though i wasn't there yesterday. but i have other suspects that i am thinking through.

vulgard is just obvious town and you should just take the L there dude

youre either faking your continued confidence in this world or somehow have an extremely skewed idea of how skilled my wolf game is lol. if you really think i'm "setting achro up as a mischop" i don't know what to tell you except find a game where i was a wolf and let it dissolve your tinfoil

i wouldn't consider you like that now, but I do attribute your wolf play sometimes, but this game has sorta reminded me of what you literally did in https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...-So-Big-Or-Bad as weedle.

I would have to parse your town and wolf play, i'm probably gonna try the mafia league game 4 for your wolf game and some other town game tbh

just glancing at that iso and from my other experiences with him, i do kinda feel like he's shown a bit of the depth of thought in this game that he typically lacks as wolf. like his iso there is very thin and shallow. it's not *much* better here so far but there are a few things like his narration of thoughts on wisdom and on me that go a little beyond what i've seen from his wolf games

im comparing boq's mafia league match 2 game 2's town game to boq's mafia league match 4 game 1's wolf game

This is for the following reasons:
1. consistency, as they were in the same category of game style.
2. both were recent enough

they seemed fairly different to me in many aspects
1. boq's wolf game definitely felt like it had way awkwarder reads that didn't seem mindmeldy to me
2. Boq's town game had generally more thought out posts and the reads felt like they had weight to them rather then "fake weight"??? If that makes sense. Like in his wolf game day 1 he was pretty much burying tonystarkprime who was town and boq didn't really have much of a case there.

Meanwhile I take a look at his town game's day 1 and wow it actually looks villagery and has posts that look like genuine solving.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...20#post6471120
Dropping this town!boq post just because it's certainly better then any number of his wolf posts from the wolf game I am looking at.

And... that leaves me with also just straight up saying
better then this game too

The reads boq has this game are about as whatever as the reads he has made this game and are also pretty much formatted in a similar way too.

There is ofc the consideration of activity which is NAI for Boquise as his wolf game had more posts... but his town game had more to say. And this unfortunately really feels like his wolfgame.

I'm interested in seeing what Boq does today as that would probably be a deciding factor for me for how I feel about the slot. Town!boq had vigor Mafia League Match Two Game Two in day 2 that I would like to see here.

this helps though too. the fact that you're seeing that stark of a difference does mean a bit to me, even if i feel like he's more in between the two extremes in this game so far and could go both ways


again i do *want* him to be a hit here and robyn's poe stuff earlier as well as dya improving somewhat also made me feel it's more likely

but there was that moment where i said i was townlocking him for like...how i understood his depth of thought in a way that resonated. idk

[nutella]

also that second line of syn's post just has no truth to it lol. no idea what he's referring to about me "saving" wisdom, their wagon gradually disbanded, and neither did i cause a flashwagon -- i commented that i wanted ladd's dya vote to become a cw but felt there wasn't time for it to happen, i had no interest in voting boq at that point, other people just started doing it and it made me more uncomfortable than just staying

[nutella]

there's actually no legible wolf motivation for what he's describing me as having purportedly done unless boq is a wolf but that isn't part of his solve it just doesn't make sense

he either thinks wolves would particularly want illario to go over rather than a slot that has more potential to remain in mischop territory -- but then why does the part about catalyzing a counterwagon mean anything

or he perspective slipped boq w


or he's town syn with bad opinions not really thinking through the actual implications of his goofy tunnel because he wants to be different

[Achro]

Would have been pretty cool if I could have walked through more stuff with syn and getting more thoughts before you summoned exodia the forbidden one against his post nutella

Was hoping to get more perspective there to solve lol.

[Syn]

also that second line of syn's post just has no truth to it lol. no idea what he's referring to about me "saving" wisdom, their wagon gradually disbanded, and neither did i cause a flashwagon -- i commented that i wanted ladd's dya vote to become a cw but felt there wasn't time for it to happen, i had no interest in voting boq at that point, other people just started doing it and it made me more uncomfortable than just staying

hrm ok

vote: illario

imagine this being the wisdom/nutella w/w vote that saves wisdom

there's actually no legible wolf motivation for what he's describing me as having purportedly done unless boq is a wolf but that isn't part of his solve it just doesn't make sense

he either thinks wolves would particularly want illario to go over rather than a slot that has more potential to remain in mischop territory -- but then why does the part about catalyzing a counterwagon mean anything

or he perspective slipped boq w


or he's town syn with bad opinions not really thinking through the actual implications of his goofy tunnel because he wants to be different

really? you don't see the wolf motivation behind having a mischop chain of illario > boq > achro > lapras?

[nutella]

the throughline for all of my votes and takes is there if you bother to look for it

if you can use the plinko board tell on wisdom you can also understand how my play has been waterfally


anyway you're gonna love this but i don't think i'm going to push wisdom much today, will see how they continue. also not feeling a dya vote anymore, they could still be a wolf but i have a better vibe from them today as well. while robyn has more focus on those two slots (particularly in boq v worlds which is reasonable), i do vibe with robyn's general poe and i'm looking to push in boq/achro/ender/lapras today.

as an aside i keep forgetting rask exists (prob just bc he hasn't posted yet today idt) and why i was tring him tbh

[nutella]

and yeah achro i am cooling on you too bc i have agreed with you on a fair bit of stuff recently and you honestly do have a point that kinda everyone has poed you atp (not originally though, only after i started it ) which isn't like a lock or anything but yeah youre just in a kind of weird thread position where i can appreciate your solving angle


with ender i really like the vibe of his posts when i look back at them but he just sits in a strange spot for me in the pl. idk this has happened before where i just couldnt read him and he was town but i just cant fully land there and other slots are townier


lapras just needs to either get a hell of a lot townier or not

[Boquise]

im comparing boq's mafia league match 2 game 2's town game to boq's mafia league match 4 game 1's wolf game

This is for the following reasons:
1. consistency, as they were in the same category of game style.
2. both were recent enough

they seemed fairly different to me in many aspects
1. boq's wolf game definitely felt like it had way awkwarder reads that didn't seem mindmeldy to me
2. Boq's town game had generally more thought out posts and the reads felt like they had weight to them rather then "fake weight"??? If that makes sense. Like in his wolf game day 1 he was pretty much burying tonystarkprime who was town and boq didn't really have much of a case there.

Meanwhile I take a look at his town game's day 1 and wow it actually looks villagery and has posts that look like genuine solving.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...20#post6471120
Dropping this town!boq post just because it's certainly better then any number of his wolf posts from the wolf game I am looking at.

And... that leaves me with also just straight up saying
better then this game too

The reads boq has this game are about as whatever as the reads he has made this game and are also pretty much formatted in a similar way too.

There is ofc the consideration of activity which is NAI for Boquise as his wolf game had more posts... but his town game had more to say. And this unfortunately really feels like his wolfgame.

I'm interested in seeing what Boq does today as that would probably be a deciding factor for me for how I feel about the slot. Town!boq had vigor Mafia League Match Two Game Two in day 2 that I would like to see here.

I am currently deciding between rolling over for death or having some vigor. Being counter wagon I realise the risks of being misyeeted are high, but could also be good for the game state. Not having the time plus contemplating whether the effort is worth it. I am kinda at peace with my thread position here

But I will do my best to produce reads and stuff!

[Raskolnikov]

im comparing boq's mafia league match 2 game 2's town game to boq's mafia league match 4 game 1's wolf game

This is for the following reasons:
1. consistency, as they were in the same category of game style.
2. both were recent enough

they seemed fairly different to me in many aspects
1. boq's wolf game definitely felt like it had way awkwarder reads that didn't seem mindmeldy to me
2. Boq's town game had generally more thought out posts and the reads felt like they had weight to them rather then "fake weight"??? If that makes sense. Like in his wolf game day 1 he was pretty much burying tonystarkprime who was town and boq didn't really have much of a case there.

Meanwhile I take a look at his town game's day 1 and wow it actually looks villagery and has posts that look like genuine solving.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...20#post6471120
Dropping this town!boq post just because it's certainly better then any number of his wolf posts from the wolf game I am looking at.

And... that leaves me with also just straight up saying
better then this game too

The reads boq has this game are about as whatever as the reads he has made this game and are also pretty much formatted in a similar way too.

There is ofc the consideration of activity which is NAI for Boquise as his wolf game had more posts... but his town game had more to say. And this unfortunately really feels like his wolfgame.

I'm interested in seeing what Boq does today as that would probably be a deciding factor for me for how I feel about the slot. Town!boq had vigor Mafia League Match Two Game Two in day 2 that I would like to see here.

Frankly u can read as mnay games as you want and make any number of assumptions and comparaisons, in the end, we are playing in this thread, and Boq has been potatoing hard in it. This feels like a massive fog screen for ur partner friendo

[Achro]

I owe you an iso at some point. I lower you mostly because I don't remember anything that stood out to me as villagery aside the one thing.

[Cape90]

Frankly u can read as mnay games as you want and make any number of assumptions and comparaisons, in the end, we are playing in this thread, and Boq has been potatoing hard in it. This feels like a massive fog screen for ur partner friendo

I don't disagree with this and I have literally said he's in his wolf meta. I would be voting him right now if there wasn't a majority.

Fog screen my ass

Get good at reading me or stop trying