Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Boquise]

oh my god illario thanked that post what is HAPPENING

#ThankReads

[EnderWiggin]

I genuinely don't understand what's confusing with my play but okay

This is low wim Boq. I make my reads, I exist. I rest
zzz

Hey it me

[Syn]

It is not yet winter here and yet somehow I have cold feet.

the wisdom wagon has a sauna

[Achro]

It is not yet winter here and yet somehow I have cold feet.

Are they cold enough to throw a Weedle into the fire?

[EnderWiggin]

Are they cold enough to throw a Weedle into the fire?

No, that'd be outright frigid.

[Cape90]

just woke up lol here

[Boquise]

I have been voting Rask for ages ftr

Itt no one not even the hosts have cared about my votes this game smh

[Boquise]

Are they cold enough to throw a Weedle into the fire?

Why would you commit such a crime
What has Weedles done to you
Did you ever ask about my reason to vote Rask or was it more important to superimpose your own read there

[Achro]

Itt no one not even the hosts have cared about my votes this game smh

Did you ever get back to me about why you are voting Rask? I didn't see a mention.

[Cape90]

i thought ladd said it too?

no just illario and not boq

[Cape90]

these @illario

oh about suspecting boq

[Boquise]

i literally addressed illario's point though nut. I just didnt explain why the post pinged me initially. so it should have made sense to illario that I would change my vote to him. He literally pointed out that he said it not boq!

Everyone is so obsessed with me tbh

[Achro]

Why would you commit such a crime
What has Weedles done to you
Did you ever ask about my reason to vote Rask or was it more important to superimpose your own read there

Yes I did, in the very next post lol

why does no one read my posts

[Boquise]

Did you ever get back to me about why you are voting Rask? I didn't see a mention.

I don't know. Last thing i did was respond to you where i asked why you didn't care to ask

[Cape90]

Vote: illario

Actually, lock wolf. Has done something I mostly see in their wolf play.

I wanna say Cape is wolfy too but idk how much of that is "How does Cape read me so badly after seeing me wolf twice recently and being so obviously in my villa meta comparatively." and how much of it is "Waa waa I have too good a wolf range and I don't think I'm as hard to read as I am."

So I'm reserving Cape into the "Mr Boomerang no likey" reads but not wolf reading them.

i will say this, you aren't falling into your wolf meta though the other time, i wondered how much of that was all a gimmick

[Achro]

Because I really like my angle there on v rask and I was more interested in protecting a town read than being curious about your vote on that tr specifically. But now that you mention it, why the vote?

I am pretty wall-y when I sit down at my computer as either alignment yeah. It sounds in character for me to mention that at some point, I asked because sometimes people overthink questions as scum and give forced answers. That one felt pretty natural though.

@Boquise

[illario]

one day people will learn to read me, today is definitely not that day. ftr i think the only person here with the correct approach to me today was visor, so if any of you want to get better at reading me i suggest control'f my name in his iso for tips

if wisdom flips town, turbo robyn tomorrow.
once i flip, turbo nutella, their turn around on me was terrible, not sure how they go from thinking i pass the bar of vilaggariness earlier when i did nothing and then when i actually made some AI posts they think im wolf

idek how to feel about dya, but id rather see the other two be turbod. pounce on me and boq still feels powerwolfy, and overly aggressive for someone whose been so busy and hasnt been able to get into the game, probs is fine if boq ends up being a hit ig. defs isnt if boq is town.

as for ender might be worth looking into this game https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...Last-Airbender. idk one thing i noticed when we were wolfbros was that he struggled switching between wolfreads organically and got overly hung up and tied to one push (he was sokka this game and his push on me this game reminds me of his push on ty this game). though to his credit he does put in more effort to be townread as a wolf which he hasnt really done so far, so maybe thats a small plus in his favour

most of these are reactive reads and when im playing reactively im probs at my least accurate so like i could be wrong, but i dont really care. if it were upto me id personally solve boq before trying to solve wisdom because i think a boq!wolf flip helps clear wisdom and i probably think ur better off flipping me before flipping wisdom since the villas tunneled on me will hopefully realise theyre reading the game in reverse whereas i dont think the same effect will happen if you flip wisdom first and i kinda just expect the joat to poison me anyways in that scenario (personally i dont even know the case on wisdom, ive looked over there iso more than once and i dont see it, ig skill issue on my part if im wrong) but meh cest la vie

dont really disagree that rask,vulgard, cape, visor and maybeeee syn feels pretty pure.

Edit: wrote this second part a good deal after the previous words since I had more time to think on stuff. I think I’m even more sure now on not wanting to see wisdom flip. So much so that if the wagons are set on me vs wisdom today I’m prepared to vote myself to ensure she doesn’t die. I don’t want this to be interpreted as ate, it’s purely strategic. When I flip I want wisdom to be given a pass until d3 and people should look into other slots, I think she’s >rand v and probably just short of being towncore material. Though I’m not sure how much of this read is logic focussed as opposed to illario focused (don’t ask me to elaborate on this point I won’t). But I do believe In worlds where me and wisdom are v/v we lose this game more often than not by chain voting us and I am not really too worried about worlds where it is just v!me and w!wisdom cos I don’t think she’s ever endgaming here as a wolf so I kinda want her to be given space for a day or so and if people are still set on her being a wolf d3 or something then feel free to kill her. I just think too much of peoples mental space has been occupied with trying to read me and wisdom which are slots most of y’all are just historically bad at reading anyways and that time could be better spent reading literally any other slot. No offense . I’d want more focus to be on people like zeus and achro. Zeus could be an underwhelming wolf here, achro could be a wolf whose just been playing a reasonable archetype.

Not sure how much I want nutella to be turbod anymore after I thought about it. If I take aside her terrible progression on me and wisdom I think she’s more towny than not ig.


As soon as I post this I have to leave to work, I might be able to have a sneak peak around the last 15-20 minutes before eod. If I see a wagon on boq/Robyn I’d be happy to switch my vote from myself to them. I dont think either is defs a lock hit, but knowing their alignments probs helps me more than knowing others and theyve both been pingy enough at times that i can see either flipping a wolf. Otherwise I’m pretty content with thinking that my flip is the most beneficial here and then just asking people to give wisdom space after. I don’t oppose to the joat holding their poison tonight if they don’t think they’re at risk of dying to the mafia NK, if u wanna fps and doc save someone imo visor is a good choice for this game.

Gl

(Also to anyone who will probably ask, “illario, fypov you are 100% town and wisdom isn’t, why vote yourself over her” . Sure to me I’m confirmed town 100% of the time, but I have a 0% confidence in anyone’s ability to read me that’s not modbot, so whilst I’m not 100% confident in wisdom being town I think she is more findable than I am if we are in fact v/v) (edited)


edit part 2: from my earlier towncore if i had to say who i feel least confident on its probs rask even if his name is first. mostly just since visor seems concerned there and i could be lowballing rasks wolf game, i just remember not really struggling to catch him in other games he was a wolf so maybe im being too confident with my approach to him this game, maybe id replace him with ladd in my townlist......but idk if thats a good idea

edit part 3: yeah probs not confident enough to put ladd in there but still think hes felt good enough and i dont sense any agenda from ladds posts, so still in the townlean but not towncore space in my head.

vote: illario

[Boquise]

Yes I did, in the very next post lol

why does no one read my posts

I stopped viewing the thread after that moment

I voted Rask because he began shading Nutella when she walked back her scum read of me

It isn't much, which is why i wrote "maybe" with the vote. But sometimes wolves like to do that to sow disagreements in town. Having Nutella not push me is not a good thing for wolves if she is town

[Cape90]

ender is outed because i caught him bedding a twink

i think ender meant

"Robyn is just null because ender gotten wolf and town pings from Robyn"

[nutella]

one day people will learn to read me, today is definitely not that day. ftr i think the only person here with the correct approach to me today was visor, so if any of you want to get better at reading me i suggest control'f my name in his iso for tips

if wisdom flips town, turbo robyn tomorrow.
once i flip, turbo nutella, their turn around on me was terrible, not sure how they go from thinking i pass the bar of vilaggariness earlier when i did nothing and then when i actually made some AI posts they think im wolf

idek how to feel about dya, but id rather see the other two be turbod. pounce on me and boq still feels powerwolfy, and overly aggressive for someone whose been so busy and hasnt been able to get into the game, probs is fine if boq ends up being a hit ig. defs isnt if boq is town.

as for ender might be worth looking into this game https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...Last-Airbender. idk one thing i noticed when we were wolfbros was that he struggled switching between wolfreads organically and got overly hung up and tied to one push (he was sokka this game and his push on me this game reminds me of his push on ty this game). though to his credit he does put in more effort to be townread as a wolf which he hasnt really done so far, so maybe thats a small plus in his favour

most of these are reactive reads and when im playing reactively im probs at my least accurate so like i could be wrong, but i dont really care. if it were upto me id personally solve boq before trying to solve wisdom because i think a boq!wolf flip helps clear wisdom and i probably think ur better off flipping me before flipping wisdom since the villas tunneled on me will hopefully realise theyre reading the game in reverse whereas i dont think the same effect will happen if you flip wisdom first and i kinda just expect the joat to poison me anyways in that scenario (personally i dont even know the case on wisdom, ive looked over there iso more than once and i dont see it, ig skill issue on my part if im wrong) but meh cest la vie

dont really disagree that rask,vulgard, cape, visor and maybeeee syn feels pretty pure.

Edit: wrote this second part a good deal after the previous words since I had more time to think on stuff. I think I’m even more sure now on not wanting to see wisdom flip. So much so that if the wagons are set on me vs wisdom today I’m prepared to vote myself to ensure she doesn’t die. I don’t want this to be interpreted as ate, it’s purely strategic. When I flip I want wisdom to be given a pass until d3 and people should look into other slots, I think she’s >rand v and probably just short of being towncore material. Though I’m not sure how much of this read is logic focussed as opposed to illario focused (don’t ask me to elaborate on this point I won’t). But I do believe In worlds where me and wisdom are v/v we lose this game more often than not by chain voting us and I am not really too worried about worlds where it is just v!me and w!wisdom cos I don’t think she’s ever endgaming here as a wolf so I kinda want her to be given space for a day or so and if people are still set on her being a wolf d3 or something then feel free to kill her. I just think too much of peoples mental space has been occupied with trying to read me and wisdom which are slots most of y’all are just historically bad at reading anyways and that time could be better spent reading literally any other slot. No offense . I’d want more focus to be on people like zeus and achro. Zeus could be an underwhelming wolf here, achro could be a wolf whose just been playing a reasonable archetype.

Not sure how much I want nutella to be turbod anymore after I thought about it. If I take aside her terrible progression on me and wisdom I think she’s more towny than not ig.


As soon as I post this I have to leave to work, I might be able to have a sneak peak around the last 15-20 minutes before eod. If I see a wagon on boq/Robyn I’d be happy to switch my vote from myself to them. I dont think either is defs a lock hit, but knowing their alignments probs helps me more than knowing others and theyve both been pingy enough at times that i can see either flipping a wolf. Otherwise I’m pretty content with thinking that my flip is the most beneficial here and then just asking people to give wisdom space after. I don’t oppose to the joat holding their poison tonight if they don’t think they’re at risk of dying to the mafia NK, if u wanna fps and doc save someone imo visor is a good choice for this game.

Gl

(Also to anyone who will probably ask, “illario, fypov you are 100% town and wisdom isn’t, why vote yourself over her” . Sure to me I’m confirmed town 100% of the time, but I have a 0% confidence in anyone’s ability to read me that’s not modbot, so whilst I’m not 100% confident in wisdom being town I think she is more findable than I am if we are in fact v/v) (edited)


edit part 2: from my earlier towncore if i had to say who i feel least confident on its probs rask even if his name is first. mostly just since visor seems concerned there and i could be lowballing rasks wolf game, i just remember not really struggling to catch him in other games he was a wolf so maybe im being too confident with my approach to him this game, maybe id replace him with ladd in my townlist......but idk if thats a good idea

edit part 3: yeah probs not confident enough to put ladd in there but still think hes felt good enough and i dont sense any agenda from ladds posts, so still in the townlean but not towncore space in my head.

vote: illario

happy for you or sorry that happened

[Cape90]

this is to say i think ender is now town so like uh

VOTE: dyachei

???

[nutella]

Mod reminder, please use VOTE: or UNVOTE: with the colon so it is easy for us to find. No guarantee we will count votes without the colon as we may overlook them.

@Boquise this is why they missed it btw you didnt have the colon so it didn't show up for their ctrl f

[Cape90]

im getting close to voting nutella for that response to illario's wall thing post

i already expressed i think he's town smh

get good town

[nutella]

once i flip, turbo nutella, their turn around on me was terrible, not sure how they go from thinking i pass the bar of vilaggariness earlier when i did nothing and then when i actually made some AI posts they think im wolf

ha yeah this is just terrible

[nutella]

im getting close to voting nutella for that response to illario's wall thing post

i already expressed i think he's town smh

get good town

i'm reading the wall now and it sucks so far

[Cape90]

oh lol. some stuff from you has pinged me, like the whole made up reads business. still not sure what you were hoping to achieve, for someone who wanted to rush us out of rvs i dont think you have done much with the info in the thread since. most of the reads you have given have felt kinda easy to give and some of them im not sure i buy the explanations to. your continual focus on how im reading you might be towny (?), it usually is >rand v for people in general but i suppose i wouldnt put it past wolf!you to try and keep tabs on me to see if u got me tricked or not since you would probably get satisfaction out of that.

"i will re read ender and boq bc i figure that harder stances on these two players will be illuminating"

kinda liked that post from you


but then some other posts you ask i dont really get, mostly your questions, i dont see where you're going with them

"dya what?s ur read on me and do you have any anti consensus reads"

like this one, not sure why you're particularly concerned with dyas read on you, and not sure why you are concerned about them having anti consensus reads or not since your own reads so far have lined up with consensus. i dont really see how asking any of that helps u solve dya there.

u have a lack of pushes, tbh i dont recall if this is AI for you in any way

ummm what else. ig i think i would expect you to maybe post more as a wolf? Since you have generally been focusing on keeping a high post count in the other games u were a wolf, but you could also be burnt out a bit or be expecting me to expect that so i havent really factored that into my read on you too much.

yaaa this is town

[Boquise]

one day people will learn to read me, today is definitely not that day. ftr i think the only person here with the correct approach to me today was visor, so if any of you want to get better at reading me i suggest control'f my name in his iso for tips

if wisdom flips town, turbo robyn tomorrow.
once i flip, turbo nutella, their turn around on me was terrible, not sure how they go from thinking i pass the bar of vilaggariness earlier when i did nothing and then when i actually made some AI posts they think im wolf

idek how to feel about dya, but id rather see the other two be turbod. pounce on me and boq still feels powerwolfy, and overly aggressive for someone whose been so busy and hasnt been able to get into the game, probs is fine if boq ends up being a hit ig. defs isnt if boq is town.

as for ender might be worth looking into this game https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...Last-Airbender. idk one thing i noticed when we were wolfbros was that he struggled switching between wolfreads organically and got overly hung up and tied to one push (he was sokka this game and his push on me this game reminds me of his push on ty this game). though to his credit he does put in more effort to be townread as a wolf which he hasnt really done so far, so maybe thats a small plus in his favour

most of these are reactive reads and when im playing reactively im probs at my least accurate so like i could be wrong, but i dont really care. if it were upto me id personally solve boq before trying to solve wisdom because i think a boq!wolf flip helps clear wisdom and i probably think ur better off flipping me before flipping wisdom since the villas tunneled on me will hopefully realise theyre reading the game in reverse whereas i dont think the same effect will happen if you flip wisdom first and i kinda just expect the joat to poison me anyways in that scenario (personally i dont even know the case on wisdom, ive looked over there iso more than once and i dont see it, ig skill issue on my part if im wrong) but meh cest la vie

dont really disagree that rask,vulgard, cape, visor and maybeeee syn feels pretty pure.

Edit: wrote this second part a good deal after the previous words since I had more time to think on stuff. I think I’m even more sure now on not wanting to see wisdom flip. So much so that if the wagons are set on me vs wisdom today I’m prepared to vote myself to ensure she doesn’t die. I don’t want this to be interpreted as ate, it’s purely strategic. When I flip I want wisdom to be given a pass until d3 and people should look into other slots, I think she’s >rand v and probably just short of being towncore material. Though I’m not sure how much of this read is logic focussed as opposed to illario focused (don’t ask me to elaborate on this point I won’t). But I do believe In worlds where me and wisdom are v/v we lose this game more often than not by chain voting us and I am not really too worried about worlds where it is just v!me and w!wisdom cos I don’t think she’s ever endgaming here as a wolf so I kinda want her to be given space for a day or so and if people are still set on her being a wolf d3 or something then feel free to kill her. I just think too much of peoples mental space has been occupied with trying to read me and wisdom which are slots most of y’all are just historically bad at reading anyways and that time could be better spent reading literally any other slot. No offense . I’d want more focus to be on people like zeus and achro. Zeus could be an underwhelming wolf here, achro could be a wolf whose just been playing a reasonable archetype.

Not sure how much I want nutella to be turbod anymore after I thought about it. If I take aside her terrible progression on me and wisdom I think she’s more towny than not ig.


As soon as I post this I have to leave to work, I might be able to have a sneak peak around the last 15-20 minutes before eod. If I see a wagon on boq/Robyn I’d be happy to switch my vote from myself to them. I dont think either is defs a lock hit, but knowing their alignments probs helps me more than knowing others and theyve both been pingy enough at times that i can see either flipping a wolf. Otherwise I’m pretty content with thinking that my flip is the most beneficial here and then just asking people to give wisdom space after. I don’t oppose to the joat holding their poison tonight if they don’t think they’re at risk of dying to the mafia NK, if u wanna fps and doc save someone imo visor is a good choice for this game.

Gl

(Also to anyone who will probably ask, “illario, fypov you are 100% town and wisdom isn’t, why vote yourself over her” . Sure to me I’m confirmed town 100% of the time, but I have a 0% confidence in anyone’s ability to read me that’s not modbot, so whilst I’m not 100% confident in wisdom being town I think she is more findable than I am if we are in fact v/v) (edited)


edit part 2: from my earlier towncore if i had to say who i feel least confident on its probs rask even if his name is first. mostly just since visor seems concerned there and i could be lowballing rasks wolf game, i just remember not really struggling to catch him in other games he was a wolf so maybe im being too confident with my approach to him this game, maybe id replace him with ladd in my townlist......but idk if thats a good idea

edit part 3: yeah probs not confident enough to put ladd in there but still think hes felt good enough and i dont sense any agenda from ladds posts, so still in the townlean but not towncore space in my head.

vote: illario

Given my activity and the mood from my posts, I don't see how anyone can read me as "powerwolfy" or even "overly aggressive". Like ever.

I guess the way to go is to artificially adjust my postings to appropriate levels based on my activity then

[robyn]

turbo me if wisdom town????? what is that

[ladd]

vote:lapras

Still not here and have not read illario wall

[nutella]

the part about ender is kinda interesting though if illario does flip town i would definitely be questioning ender heavily again