Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[EnderWiggin]

I actually have a hot take that Raskol might be wolfier than I've been giving him credit for but I'm afraid of clownpainting myself a second time after illario.

[EnderWiggin]

Syn is also definitely "odd" looking and is acting all "Shady"

Just had to get in my daily Syn Shade before weirdly putting him back into my upper town.

[Visor]

why not raskol/lapras/dya

[Vulgard]

I have Wisdom as v
I think Rask has scum equity if Nutella is v

I am ambivalent on Nutella's alignment

I am weakly town reading DZ/Lapras

Tho honestly, if you've read my posts you should know the first two reads I present here. So why didn't you?

oh so you're confident in wisdom v now? what i got from your day 1 posts was that you weren't sure but okay

i did read your day 1 posts, and my conclusion from them was that you didn't seem to have a lot of confident reads, if any. you were mostly giving snap takes and these snap takes didn't come across as particularly strong, either. so i felt like you just didn't have any significant reads

judging by this post, you still don't have them other than the wisdom take and the rask w / nutella v take

why is rask a wolf if nutella is town?

I am unironically reading this as townie frustration

i do think that post was townie as well yeah

[Vulgard]

i might as well say now that a major reason i think achro could be a wolf is that he isn't rping anymore

which sounds extremely dumb but hear me out

if you come into the game wanting to rp, you're going to keep doing it in spite of adversity. i've seldom seen a town resign so quickly and easily. villagers wanting to rp are stubborn about it, and achro was the opposite of that

this sounds like a meme argument, but i do think this is a legitimate tell. from a villager pov, you feel free to roleplay because you don't feel the pressure for your posts to be traditionally read as good, you just want to do your own thing. and from your pov, catching wolves is something you can still do while roleplaying. wolves do want their posts to look good so they can stay alive, so by extension, even if they do decide to roleplay, once they find it too challenging to continue they will simply stop doing it

revealing this tell is likely going to make it less accurate going forward, but i do think it's legit and it's a major reason why i think achro could be a wolf here

it was accurate even as recently as the omega strikers game on fol, which ender was in and where he roleplayed - as town. there were also other people who roleplayed, and they were also town

[Vulgard]

dya just seems like dya to me idk

i genuinely don't think they've done a lot of ai things

the most ai thing was probably the mistake they made when thinking boq wrote a post that he didn't actually write and placing a vote based on it, but all that does to me is make me believe dya isn't w/w with boq, and it's not even 100% lock unaligning because it could be a genuine mistake

@Lapras who do you want dead today

[Achro]

i might as well say now that a major reason i think achro could be a wolf is that he isn't rping anymore

which sounds extremely dumb but hear me out

if you come into the game wanting to rp, you're going to keep doing it in spite of adversity. i've seldom seen a town resign so quickly and easily. villagers wanting to rp are stubborn about it, and achro was the opposite of that

this sounds like a meme argument, but i do think this is a legitimate tell. from a villager pov, you feel free to roleplay because you don't feel the pressure for your posts to be traditionally read as good, you just want to do your own thing. and from your pov, catching wolves is something you can still do while roleplaying. wolves do want their posts to look good so they can stay alive, so by extension, even if they do decide to roleplay, once they find it too challenging to continue they will simply stop doing it

revealing this tell is likely going to make it less accurate going forward, but i do think it's legit and it's a major reason why i think achro could be a wolf here

it was accurate even as recently as the omega strikers game on fol, which ender was in and where he roleplayed - as town. there were also other people who roleplayed, and they were also town

Man, I started the day RPing and literally no one responded to it.

No one but Cape responded to any of my RPs basically unless it was purely about them.

This isn't 'Achro wants to look good' its 'Achro wants to be communicated with'

Which hasn't gone very well anyway.

[Vulgard]

Man, I started the day RPing and literally no one responded to it.

No one but Cape responded to any of my RPs basically unless it was purely about them.

This isn't 'Achro wants to look good' its 'Achro wants to be communicated with'

Which hasn't gone very well anyway.

i'm aware that people haven't been responding to it, i'm arguing that not being stubborn about it is wolf ai

logically it makes sense that you would stop but i think a villager would be less inclined to stop

[Visor]

if you come into the game wanting to rp, you're going to keep doing it in spite of adversity. i've seldom seen a town resign so quickly and easily. villagers wanting to rp are stubborn about it, and achro was the opposite of that

eh feel like projection, ive seen plenty of villagers and wolves commit or not commit, i don't think it means anything

he stopped doing it because it stopped being fun for him because nobody was engaging him (and as a wolf or villa he wants to engage with people)

[Achro]

i'm aware that people haven't been responding to it, i'm arguing that not being stubborn about it is wolf ai

logically it makes sense that you would stop but i think a villager would be less inclined to stop

If I wanted to write by myself I wouldn't sign up for a mafia game lol.

But like, I wrote out another RP to open this day and it still didn't get anything. If anything, by your logic, I am beautifully town for even bothering to do it for my opener day 2 :(.

[Boquise]

I made a post hours ago responding to Cape but the internet was wacko so it never showed up

Sad

[EnderWiggin]

i might as well say now that a major reason i think achro could be a wolf is that he isn't rping anymore

which sounds extremely dumb but hear me out

if you come into the game wanting to rp, you're going to keep doing it in spite of adversity. i've seldom seen a town resign so quickly and easily. villagers wanting to rp are stubborn about it, and achro was the opposite of that

this sounds like a meme argument, but i do think this is a legitimate tell. from a villager pov, you feel free to roleplay because you don't feel the pressure for your posts to be traditionally read as good, you just want to do your own thing. and from your pov, catching wolves is something you can still do while roleplaying. wolves do want their posts to look good so they can stay alive, so by extension, even if they do decide to roleplay, once they find it too challenging to continue they will simply stop doing it

revealing this tell is likely going to make it less accurate going forward, but i do think it's legit and it's a major reason why i think achro could be a wolf here

it was accurate even as recently as the omega strikers game on fol, which ender was in and where he roleplayed - as town. there were also other people who roleplayed, and they were also town

As the person you specifically mentioned.

This is a meme read.

[Cape90]

i might as well say now that a major reason i think achro could be a wolf is that he isn't rping anymore

which sounds extremely dumb but hear me out

if you come into the game wanting to rp, you're going to keep doing it in spite of adversity. i've seldom seen a town resign so quickly and easily. villagers wanting to rp are stubborn about it, and achro was the opposite of that

this sounds like a meme argument, but i do think this is a legitimate tell. from a villager pov, you feel free to roleplay because you don't feel the pressure for your posts to be traditionally read as good, you just want to do your own thing. and from your pov, catching wolves is something you can still do while roleplaying. wolves do want their posts to look good so they can stay alive, so by extension, even if they do decide to roleplay, once they find it too challenging to continue they will simply stop doing it

revealing this tell is likely going to make it less accurate going forward, but i do think it's legit and it's a major reason why i think achro could be a wolf here

it was accurate even as recently as the omega strikers game on fol, which ender was in and where he roleplayed - as town. there were also other people who roleplayed, and they were also town

towny argument

[Boquise]

So can we talk about how Visor and Ender are doing nothing whilst I am on fire tbh

[nutella]

So can we talk about how Visor and Ender are doing nothing whilst I am on fire tbh

those two slots are definitely in my to be looked at pile as well, ender's readlist was uninspired af but he could be ok. im more concerned with how cape and vulgard are handling this day and pushing for you to be the elim over wisdom

if wisdom is town it's less of a thing but i currently think theyre a hit and youre not

[nutella]

also vulgards achro thing is incredibly lol

in fact i feel like ive usually seen the opposite argument, that dropping rp is towny bc town prioritizes actually solving/communicating and rp falls away in favor of natural posting while a wolf would keep the limit imposed

i think either way is completely whatever as an argument and entirely depends on the player and i think if anything it's on the towny side for achro

[EnderWiggin]

So can we talk about how Visor and Ender are doing nothing whilst I am on fire tbh

The benefits of having a fire extinguisher.

[Cape90]

So can we talk about how Visor and Ender are doing nothing whilst I am on fire tbh

we can talk about Visor, Ender is... for a later date for me. He isn't reminding me of his wolf game but that same wolf game I wasn't really using as a baseline anyways because he was roleplaying

[nutella]

towny argument

epic xpost tbh

[Vulgard]

why not raskol/lapras/dya

i'm honestly not super convinced on dya but that could be a skill issue

lapras i'm trying to re-evaluate

why raskol? do you have a read on him now? you said earlier that i'd have to wait for it

[EnderWiggin]

why not raskol/lapras/dya

Je ne comprende pas?

[Raskolnikov]

I am just gonna write another post because what Boq is saying is just not true.

I voted nutella very early D1 because they had no content and wanted someone to react to it. Vulg did by saying he liked the vote on nutella.

I later said I liked nut's streak of posts when they reentered the thread, but mentionned it was a surface level read.

Vibing with nutella town rn. But that's a pretty surface level read. Might give a look to Vulgard's D1 on the december game on this forum tbh.

I linked them with Vulg because of the way Nutella TRed Vulg out of his posting style in several quotes they produced itt, which to me wasn't convincing (seomeone else mentionnned it).

I then sussed nutella because of the joat joke they made. and voted them again.

Then Boq entered the thread and sussed nutella. There were several posts but these are the last where he talks about nutella before voting me.

The old scum meta of your approach to me was to try to pocket me with town reads

i am keeping an eye on you sister

Nutella saying that she can't really narrate her thought process
Matches with her explaining her "locking in boq as town forever gg" post with just "you were town vibing and stuff" matches

This is what the pros call organic play, and it is all on display for us all to have a say and comment on during this first day but I also feel like Nut did a mayday and pivoted away from fearsome intimidating awesome payday Boquise with his meta death ray

tbh

These and Visor posting "nutella/Wisdom ww" strenghtened my hidden sus on nutella (I don't think I posted about nut after the post I gave them a surface-level town read).

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l8r on I cooled down on nutella (other people reads impacting mine and other stuff I don't wanna go into here), but the point is that I pretty clearly have been flipflopping on the slot a lot.

I stopped viewing the thread after that moment

I voted Rask because he began shading Nutella when she walked back her scum read of me

It isn't much, which is why i wrote "maybe" with the vote. But sometimes wolves like to do that to sow disagreements in town. Having Nutella not push me is not a good thing for wolves if she is town

So Boq's reason to vote me doesn't exist in the first place. That he is pushing the misrep on me is just laughable tbh.

The way he has been townreading nutella since the posts I quote above is not clear to me either.

[Cape90]

I am just gonna write another post because what Boq is saying is just not true.

I voted nutella very early D1 because they had no content and wanted someone to react to it. Vulg did by saying he liked the vote on nutella.

I later said I liked nut's streak of posts when they reentered the thread, but mentionned it was a surface level read.



I linked them with Vulg because of the way Nutella TRed Vulg out of his posting style in several quotes they produced itt, which to me wasn't convincing (seomeone else mentionnned it).

I then sussed nutella because of the joat joke they made. and voted them again.

Then Boq entered the thread and sussed nutella. There were several posts but these are the last where he talks about nutella before voting me.





These and Visor posting "nutella/Wisdom ww" strenghtened my hidden sus on nutella (I don't think I posted about nut after the post I gave them a surface-level town read).

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l8r on I cooled down on nutella (other people reads impacting mine and other stuff I don't wanna go into here), but the point is that I pretty clearly have been flipflopping on the slot a lot.



So Boq's reason to vote me doesn't exist in the first place. That he is pushing the misrep on me is just laughable tbh.

The way he has been townreading nutella since the posts I quote above is not clear to me either.

I thought it was just me being tired the way it made 0 sense