Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Vulgard]

i read them, they didnt really resonate with me as necessarily wolfy and not just boq?

i don't know how that's the case for you

cape said boq was playing to his wolf meta in regard to his read on cape, explained why and how

rask said boq made up a fake argument that has no basis in reality and that boq's read on him has been narrow and weak (the latter of which i agree with, the former of which i understand his reasoning about)

boq's wolfread on rask has indeed been pretty stale and unchanging, it's also the closest thing he has to an actual wolfread that he believes in so it being so unexplained and not strongly pursued is extra wolfy, doesn't seem like he's actually hunting

i feel like all of the above would be wolfy for anyone and not just boq, so why is it "just boq?"

[Vulgard]

i'm starting to think it's two in boq/wisdom/dya

[Vulgard]

actually it's worse from boq because visor hasn't been trying to masquerade it as a legitimate push

[Vulgard]

i'm starting to think it's two in boq/wisdom/dya

i don't think it's all three because if all three played around each other the way that they have done then it's a collective throw

[dyachei]

i don't know how that's the case for you

cape said boq was playing to his wolf meta in regard to his read on cape, explained why and how

rask said boq made up a fake argument that has no basis in reality and that boq's read on him has been narrow and weak (the latter of which i agree with, the former of which i understand his reasoning about)

boq's wolfread on rask has indeed been pretty stale and unchanging, it's also the closest thing he has to an actual wolfread that he believes in so it being so unexplained and not strongly pursued is extra wolfy, doesn't seem like he's actually hunting

i feel like all of the above would be wolfy for anyone and not just boq, so why is it "just boq?"

i could be wrong on boq but when i read his posts i didnt come away with boq wolf

and like the fake argument thing feels like something a wolf wouldnt actually do because people would find it...

[Boquise]

i don't know how that's the case for you

cape said boq was playing to his wolf meta in regard to his read on cape, explained why and how

rask said boq made up a fake argument that has no basis in reality and that boq's read on him has been narrow and weak (the latter of which i agree with, the former of which i understand his reasoning about)

boq's wolfread on rask has indeed been pretty stale and unchanging, it's also the closest thing he has to an actual wolfread that he believes in so it being so unexplained and not strongly pursued is extra wolfy, doesn't seem like he's actually hunting

i feel like all of the above would be wolfy for anyone and not just boq, so why is it "just boq?"

i just dont really understand how i get so misunderstood when i all my posts are short and succinct tbh
there is no fake argument.
i have stated multiple times it is weak and up to change

when will this register with you? @Vulgard

[nebjiamn]

VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #1823


boquise 3 vulgard enderwiggin achro
wisdom 3 raskolnikov Syn nutella
dyachei 1 visor
achro 1 lapras
lapras 1 wisdom
Maj is in effect. With 13 players the magic number is 7.
Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/26/23

[Raskolnikov]

leaning town on Boq now

(the fact I understand where he is coming from with his read on me and these last solving posts)

[robyn]

i don’t have a vote?????? lmfao

[nutella]

i don’t have a vote?????? lmfao

u have to use colon or they wont see it

[Boquise]

leaning town on Boq now

(the fact I understand where he is coming from with his read on me and these last solving posts)

you are now legally bound to inform Vulgard that my read was not coming out from absolute nowhere hmpf tbh!

[dyachei]

i feel like i don't really jive with the thread a lot this game because my reads seem fairly different. after reading lapras iso in more ddetail i dont want to vote there

[Boquise]

maybe i am voting vulgard more out of annoyance than an actual read but i am interested in seeing how he plays around these change of events. Like I immediately felt Rask's reaction to Robyn's joat stuff to be wolfy but maybe thats because i have created a bias, that i am the correct one and everyone else smells tbh

for the record, my town reads:
Wisdom, Dya, Nut, Syn, Robyn, maybe rask, maybe lapras tho feels like he has sidelined a lot even tho he got into fire for standing up for me which makes him a G tbh, cape is also probably town (dont think anyone got back to me about my qualms tho), and fine rask can have town points. I also have thought Vulgard is town but I am annoyed that he is stating things about my play that isnt true and that he could easily fact check.

So maybe I am dropping him down in the bad bois pile. Maybe not.

I have no read on Achro and Visor. Which is a concern.
Achro has posted a lot and has pushed me a lot. We seem to have the same poe? Idk, he is a difficult read for me
Visor's posts have given me nothing.

This is where I am at

[dyachei]

maybe i am voting vulgard more out of annoyance than an actual read but i am interested in seeing how he plays around these change of events. Like I immediately felt Rask's reaction to Robyn's joat stuff to be wolfy but maybe thats because i have created a bias, that i am the correct one and everyone else smells tbh

for the record, my town reads:
Wisdom, Dya, Nut, Syn, Robyn, maybe rask, maybe lapras tho feels like he has sidelined a lot even tho he got into fire for standing up for me which makes him a G tbh, cape is also probably town (dont think anyone got back to me about my qualms tho), and fine rask can have town points. I also have thought Vulgard is town but I am annoyed that he is stating things about my play that isnt true and that he could easily fact check.

So maybe I am dropping him down in the bad bois pile. Maybe not.

I have no read on Achro and Visor. Which is a concern.
Achro has posted a lot and has pushed me a lot. We seem to have the same poe? Idk, he is a difficult read for me
Visor's posts have given me nothing.

This is where I am at

reading vulgard iso right now

dont really like his flip flop on rask all that much and he feels kind of word-salady/overexplainy so far

[Boquise]

reading vulgard iso right now

dont really like his flip flop on rask all that much and he feels kind of word-salady/overexplainy so far

nice tbh

i'm going to play some video games but will return before sleeping

[dyachei]

i'm not particularly enthusiastic about the wisdom wagon to be honest

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Vote: Lapras

he's just kinda there, other than his earlier commentary - which i took issue with and explained

accepting reasons to think this is town (asked for them earlier and nobody gave any)

looking at how the thread is progressing just convinces me more that lapras might indeed be a wolf

nobody is talking about him

nobody has told me why he's town after i asked for reasons why he's town twice

all he's done since the earlygame was omgus (this is slightly unfair but i don't remember him doing anything other than questioning my push on him and then voting me)

i'd likely be re-evaluating the early gut feeling i had on him if not for the fact he hasn't given me a reason to do so and the complete lack of willingness to discuss his slot makes me think he's getting overlooked

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i think nutella's posts are fine and visor's posts are whatever, nutella slight town, visor down to null

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@ achro i'm not really sure what you're doing this game to be honest, i think the best parts of your posting are the parts where you're pushing me because unlike everyone else you actually have reasons for it but that could be my bias

i probably sound more frustrated than i actually am as i say this

in regard to my treatment of lapras, the read did feel kinda stale but i asked other people for reads on the slot several times and the slot hasn't done anything to alter my opinion in any way so my early gut feeling turned into a vote and now seeing the threadstate go the way that it has i'm suspecting i might just be correct

you alluded to me not questioning lapras or something but there's nothing to question him about, he hasn't really been producing content, he just asked about my read on him and then voted me

there's nothing to work with here

and if he's town i realize that this push on him from me likely isn't helping, but also if he's town then i frankly expect better from him

basically regardless of alignment's he's not exactly being helpful, but couple that with how the thread seems to be treating him and how i had a negative gut feeling about his early-game posting (which is his most substantive posting, also i went back to the post that made me think he's maybe mafia and i still think it's wolfy), i think this is worth pursuing

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i don't particularly like the push on wisdom, i don't have a strong tr on wisdom but it feels more like a lazy wagon / shot in the dark to me than anything, nobody really gave good reasons other than "this post wolfy" which is technically the same thing as me talking about lapras but fmpov there is a greater number of factors in my lapras read

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push on boq is... okay i guess but i've no idea how he plays wolf, he kinda just hasn't played the game imo

meh as i was writing this i realized that i'm just singling out lapras based on a gut feeling but i do think it's strange that nobody can formulate a reason for him being town yet he isn't talked about or suspected or anything (unlike wisdom, boquise, nutella until recently...)

these quotes make it possible that wisddom/vul are w/w

[Boquise]

maybe i am voting vulgard more out of annoyance than an actual read but i am interested in seeing how he plays around these change of events. Like I immediately felt Rask's reaction to Robyn's joat stuff to be wolfy but maybe thats because i have created a bias, that i am the correct one and everyone else smells tbh

for the record, my town reads:
Wisdom, Dya, Nut, Syn, Robyn, maybe rask, maybe lapras tho feels like he has sidelined a lot even tho he got into fire for standing up for me which makes him a G tbh, cape is also probably town (dont think anyone got back to me about my qualms tho), and fine rask can have town points. I also have thought Vulgard is town but I am annoyed that he is stating things about my play that isnt true and that he could easily fact check.

So maybe I am dropping him down in the bad bois pile. Maybe not.

I have no read on Achro and Visor. Which is a concern.
Achro has posted a lot and has pushed me a lot. We seem to have the same poe? Idk, he is a difficult read for me
Visor's posts have given me nothing.

This is where I am at

i literally forgot about ender

[Cape90]

leaning town on Boq now

(the fact I understand where he is coming from with his read on me and these last solving posts)

maybe I should be concerned with the flip from this to automatically assuming Wisdom was TMIing Boq as villager