Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[dyachei]

did you read cape and rask's cases on boq? what did you think about them?

i read them, they didnt really resonate with me as necessarily wolfy and not just boq?

[robyn]

dya will you play more this cycle?

your play this game is alien from poker and persona mash

and that’s for reasons other than activity, my primary concern is read accuracy and solving which you haven’t shown thus far

if you do, solve wisdom/boq/ender/dz

ignore visor, he comes later as either alignment

[dyachei]

dya will you play more this cycle?

your play this game is alien from poker and persona mash

and that’s for reasons other than activity, my primary concern is read accuracy and solving which you haven’t shown thus far

if you do, solve wisdom/boq/ender/dz

ignore visor, he comes later as either alignment

yeah, i think your reads suck, robyn

sorry, i think your read accuracy is worse than mine because you have me, a villager, in your poe of 3

[dyachei]

dya will you play more this cycle?

your play this game is alien from poker and persona mash

and that’s for reasons other than activity, my primary concern is read accuracy and solving which you haven’t shown thus far

if you do, solve wisdom/boq/ender/dz

ignore visor, he comes later as either alignment

and like I have solved boq

I think wisdom is likely a wolf

remember what her read on me yesterday was? towny because of 1 post

she doesn't even mention that post today at all or anything I've done today, which others agree is more normal villager play for me, and votes me instead

[dyachei]

im not going to ignore visor because i think he's a wolf

Im not going to solve in the way you think solving should happen because I play my own game

[Vulgard]

i read them, they didnt really resonate with me as necessarily wolfy and not just boq?

i don't know how that's the case for you

cape said boq was playing to his wolf meta in regard to his read on cape, explained why and how

rask said boq made up a fake argument that has no basis in reality and that boq's read on him has been narrow and weak (the latter of which i agree with, the former of which i understand his reasoning about)

boq's wolfread on rask has indeed been pretty stale and unchanging, it's also the closest thing he has to an actual wolfread that he believes in so it being so unexplained and not strongly pursued is extra wolfy, doesn't seem like he's actually hunting

i feel like all of the above would be wolfy for anyone and not just boq, so why is it "just boq?"

[Achro]

i mean reading your posts hasnt really helped me to this point, so will it?

I guess not.

Man maybe I need to join a book club or something, this game is so surreal to me tbh. New site format + just the wild way my thread presence has been lol.

[Vulgard]

i'm starting to think it's two in boq/wisdom/dya

[Wisdom]

ladd didn?t tr
illario didn?t wanna kill you today
i?ve also never misread you

i am being original in my reads and you have 8h to get out of wolf meta which you?re in

i?ve just read two of your games

so please, elaborate on your reads and gamestate and whatnot

You can't call it wolf meta if I'm town lol, just means your way of reading me is flawed ^^

[robyn]

im not going to ignore visor because i think he's a wolf

Im not going to solve in the way you think solving should happen because I play my own game

normally this is permissible

unfortunately i'm on a clock, gotta deal with you now and i understand that you've been inactive d1 because of work

i don't ask you to change your process, i ask you to participate more so that i can see poker and persona mash dya, not this dya

you do understand nearly everyone has poe'd you because of your play around the illario chop

i'm gunning for you and visor is too, why do you treat me as villager and him as wolf?

[Vulgard]

im not going to ignore visor because i think he's a wolf

Im not going to solve in the way you think solving should happen because I play my own game

i can sorta see the take on visor because he hasn't really been playing but what do you think he's done that was actually ai? for me the worst thing is that he's been continually hinting he has suspicions on rask but has postponed explaining them for a long time which is similar to what boq's doing

he has the irl excuse so it's not as wolfy from him but it's still something that bothers me

[Vulgard]

actually it's worse from boq because visor hasn't been trying to masquerade it as a legitimate push

[dyachei]

normally this is permissible

unfortunately i'm on a clock, gotta deal with you now and i understand that you've been inactive d1 because of work

i don't ask you to change your process, i ask you to participate more so that i can see poker and persona mash dya, not this dya

you do understand nearly everyone has poe'd you because of your play around the illario chop

i'm gunning for you and visor is too, why do you treat me as villager and him as wolf?

you understand that mashes and small games are very different right?

my play around the illario chop is never how i treat that as a wolf and if you guys cant see that im not sure i want to stay alive this game

[dyachei]

i can sorta see the take on visor because he hasn't really been playing but what do you think he's done that was actually ai? for me the worst thing is that he's been continually hinting he has suspicions on rask but has postponed explaining them for a long time which is similar to what boq's doing

he has the irl excuse so it's not as wolfy from him but it's still something that bothers me

i literally asked him straight out while he was in thread why rask and he ignored me

but really the most egregious thing to me is he isnt trying to solve me like he usually does. he's just kind of free floating into a miselim on me

[Vulgard]

i'm starting to think it's two in boq/wisdom/dya

i don't think it's all three because if all three played around each other the way that they have done then it's a collective throw

[Achro]

I get a little lost sometimes when discussion of meta on boq/wisdom/dya comes up tbh.

I see what's in front of me and try my best to go with it but don't have any real authority.

I will say that Dya teams killing ladd really seems on the nose (I said this at day open but no one but cape read it)

[dyachei]

i don't know how that's the case for you

cape said boq was playing to his wolf meta in regard to his read on cape, explained why and how

rask said boq made up a fake argument that has no basis in reality and that boq's read on him has been narrow and weak (the latter of which i agree with, the former of which i understand his reasoning about)

boq's wolfread on rask has indeed been pretty stale and unchanging, it's also the closest thing he has to an actual wolfread that he believes in so it being so unexplained and not strongly pursued is extra wolfy, doesn't seem like he's actually hunting

i feel like all of the above would be wolfy for anyone and not just boq, so why is it "just boq?"

i could be wrong on boq but when i read his posts i didnt come away with boq wolf

and like the fake argument thing feels like something a wolf wouldnt actually do because people would find it...

[dyachei]

I get a little lost sometimes when discussion of meta on boq/wisdom/dya comes up tbh.

I see what's in front of me and try my best to go with it but don't have any real authority.

I will say that Dya teams killing ladd really seems on the nose (I said this at day open but no one but cape read it)

yeah this is really not a good read because ladd is known for being a very good villager and a lot of people kill him n1

[Vulgard]

I get a little lost sometimes when discussion of meta on boq/wisdom/dya comes up tbh.

I see what's in front of me and try my best to go with it but don't have any real authority.

I will say that Dya teams killing ladd really seems on the nose (I said this at day open but no one but cape read it)

so you're saying one of ladd's last susses being dya is actually an argument in dya's favor?

[Vulgard]

i literally asked him straight out while he was in thread why rask and he ignored me

but really the most egregious thing to me is he isnt trying to solve me like he usually does. he's just kind of free floating into a miselim on me

i don't feel like he's trying to solve anyone to be honest

he told me "later" when i asked about rask

i'm just not sure if that makes him a wolf rather than someone super busy

but if he's super busy then i guess he shouldn't have personal susses at all and should just sheep? idk this doesn't seem like a great line of reasoning

[Vulgard]

i don't feel like he's trying to solve anyone to be honest

he told me "later" when i asked about rask

i'm just not sure if that makes him a wolf rather than someone super busy

but if he's super busy then i guess he shouldn't have personal susses at all and should just sheep? idk this doesn't seem like a great line of reasoning

i mean he has reads he's just not really acting upon them

[Achro]

so you're saying one of ladd's last susses being dya is actually an argument in dya's favor?

Ladd's dying breath going 'dya is scum' and then Ladd flipping seems a little '?' to me

It's what led me to Boq. Ladd proved willing to vote Boq, but Ladd ended on Dya.

So sure an argument can be made for Dya because Ladd was big on Dya not being good.

But Ladd was also a likely vote against boq if things came to it.

[dyachei]

i don't feel like he's trying to solve anyone to be honest

he told me "later" when i asked about rask

i'm just not sure if that makes him a wolf rather than someone super busy

but if he's super busy then i guess he shouldn't have personal susses at all and should just sheep? idk this doesn't seem like a great line of reasoning

he's allowed to have personal susses, but how hard is it to give 1 line of non specific reasoning?

[robyn]

kill boq, if town turbo wisdom/dya if town

kill boq, if scum there's two wolves who aren't wisdom/dya

which means one in achro/dz

and last wolf is left for town so town doesn't fucking int like n1

that's about where i'm at atm

@Vulgard

i had this thought 200 posts ago

i had ladd's team +1 before him

can i count on you to sheep me to a somewhat higher degree than normal?

if yes, your only job this cycle is to read ender/dz very closely and present your findings to the thread

[Vulgard]

he's allowed to have personal susses, but how hard is it to give 1 line of non specific reasoning?

yeah i get where you're coming from and i'm mulling it over

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

i had this thought 200 posts ago

i had ladd's team +1 before him

can i count on you to sheep me to a somewhat higher degree than normal?

if yes, your only job this cycle is to read ender/dz very closely and present your findings to the thread

wait you think it's neither wisdom nor dya if boq is a wolf? i forgot about that post

i should indeed read ender and dz again so i'll do it either way

[Vulgard]

Ladd's dying breath going 'dya is scum' and then Ladd flipping seems a little '?' to me

It's what led me to Boq. Ladd proved willing to vote Boq, but Ladd ended on Dya.

So sure an argument can be made for Dya because Ladd was big on Dya not being good.

But Ladd was also a likely vote against boq if things came to it.

oh okay i see what you mean

i think it's 50/50 though

[robyn]

wait you think it's neither wisdom nor dya if boq is a wolf? i forgot about that post

i should indeed read ender and dz again so i'll do it either way

you should iso me, i've done some good work this cycle

[Achro]

oh okay i see what you mean

i think it's 50/50 though

Well yeah

Either I am right or I am not.

50/50

[Vulgard]

Well yeah

Either I am right or I am not.

50/50

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