Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[robyn]

funnily enough i am still not out of my wolf range or meta

[Vulgard]

that's not what i meant isejgisrzngiolkrng

i meant that this is wifom and therefore a bit of a coinflip

funnily enough i am still not out of my wolf range or meta

i actually thought for a second that maybe you were trying to get an ML before flipping W with that post directed at me

[dyachei]

Ladd cape rask robyn town
Syn proba town

Vul maybe town maybe wolf

Wiz kinda wolfy but cant ewmwmwber why

Visor is absolutely not towny

Good morning.

Robyn was a bad poison and their reaction makes that super clear
@Visor its not that i find you scummy its that your explicitly not towny

My time will be limited to Sunday but ill probs just hang out

these probably make lapras/visor not w/w

[robyn]

i meant that this is wifom and therefore a bit of a coinflip



i actually thought for a second that maybe you were trying to get an ML before flipping W with that post directed at me

i'm really good at forcing chops as wolf

this time i have to do it as town out of necessity

i believe the wisdom case will be sufficiently compelling

[dyachei]

Sorry for my performance today, I realize my brain isn't in top shape.

Vote: Illario

Didn't wanna self pres because I prefer doing my own thing and it's 90min left so neither me nor Illario is getting yeeted anyway because I know how much you guys love flash wagons, so voting Illario is kinda meh.

Had I been able to be up for another hour I might have given Boquise some attention because his play this game is confusing me.

Nutella town lol, sorry for not realizing earlier.

G'night!

so they didnt want an illario wagon earlier, then came back and did this

this with the calling me towny and then voting me today seems sus

vote: wisdom

[dyachei]

fwiw reading wisdom's iso, i do think she could be w/w with boq

[Vulgard]

i'm going to read ender

[dyachei]

i feel like if wisdom were v she would fight for her reads and she's not doing that here

[robyn]

ty for the good and towny solving dya

can you do me a favor try to form concrete reads on ender/rask this cycle?

[nutella]

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Frankly Boquise is just an outed wolf lol. I mean if you are a villager

You have been tunneling me without reason, coasting, ending off wagon at EOD1, still riding it lol.

vote: Boquise

bad post friend

I just wanna point out this was the entire thing on Rask and why Rask is scum. It is so strange and Boq wasn't straightforweard about his rask push until a bunch of posts later. Giving the reason of suspectinv Rask when he shaded nutella when nutella walked back their scumread on boq which to me looks like a self-awareness thing. I guess there was motivation for checking Rask as ender was an early Boq townread for "being relatable" whatever that means.

Anyways I rate boq's comeback to the thread a you should probably still kill this slot out of 10.

ok sure idk i think theyre a diff check atp and if boq is v we yeet rask into the sun because i am not liking what hes doing so far today (inb4 im chaining mischops again)

Right, here's my problem. That's what I thought anti-spew meant. Which is a direct implication that wolves are being voted by their partners. Here's my problem with that.

You are voting Visor
Boq was voting Rask for eternity and wasn't at EOD
Ladd is dead and voting Dya and is town
Robyn is poisoned, you acknowledge that is a bad poison, so you don't think that's a wolf being voted

Meaning the only possible wolf there who was moved onto at EOD was Boq.

This feels blatantly TMI given that you aren't even really sure about Boq in your reads in thread. It would be one thing if you had a real solid read on Boq as scum, but you haven't presented that.

Also, back to the 'uncaring' votes which are off wagon you have yourself, Boq, dead ladd, dead illario, and visor

So only really Boq/Visor fit that bill.

But, also as Cape pointed out, you are misframing EOD dramatically. Ender was around for at least some of it, and Nutella and Syn had to vote Illario or Boq could have feasibly gone over because before ladd's last second vote swap it was 6-5.

This appears like you know Boq is scum and want to get in ahead of Boq's voters looking good.

Because you don't say any of this, but the only people you can reasonably be shading are cape, robyn (who you think is town), rask, and me (who you have given no indication of saying I am wolfy iirc)

It's like you want to plant the idea but you didn't really think about it too hard and hope it'd sprout, or something.

What did I get wrong?

Obviously dependent on Boq flipping wolf but uh...

yeaaah i also had the sense lapras was sort of perspective slipping boq as wolf there but i am not sure if i just read it wrong

Also regarding the first part. This should actually show that I am town. I am not planning out my reads and my thought posts are not completely in sync because they evolve while I write

So thanks for clearing me Cape tbh

friendo i want to believe this when i see you post thought processes like that, believe me i do


i'm flip flopping between like, boq/lapras/x world and rask/ender?/cape?? world rn or something

stay tuned for more catchup weathervaning

[dyachei]

ty for the good and towny solving dya

can you do me a favor try to form concrete reads on ender/rask this cycle?

thought rask was town d1 and i read ender off associations so it's too early for me to get a handle on him

[robyn]

boq/dz hard unaligned

this is a threadstate read nobody will remember but one which will be accurate that i'll site in post game

another reason boq is v is because he's unaligned with so many people

[dyachei]

someone explain the rask case because it seems pretty nebulous

[dyachei]

you guys probably have me for an hour before the baby wakes up

[nutella]

oh

wisdom/rask/visor


maybe


(robyn's confidence on wisdom around 1500 is altering my pov again)

[nutella]

not sure if visor/rask would have the interactions theyve had as w/w but its a thought

[nutella]

i am really wanting the boq/lapras world to be true but if it's not i am def seeing wisdom/rask now

[Raskolnikov]

someone explain the rask case because it seems pretty nebulous

fwiw it's not really a case. But Boq has been voting me for 2 days for reasons that don't exist (he has posted I started to shade nutella once they cooled down on him, which is just not true). and I was his sole wolf read D1.

[nutella]

i'm not really there on visor being the third for another reason than the rask interactions but he does need to do more

[dyachei]

fwiw it's not really a case. But Boq has been voting me for 2 days for reasons that don't exist (he has posted I started to shade nutella once they cooled down on him, which is just not true). and I was his sole wolf read D1.

half these people think boq is a wolf so why are they seriously considering that in reading you?

[Raskolnikov]

nutella I am not sure what to tell you if you read my iso and you think "this is Wisdom's partner".

[Raskolnikov]

half these people think boq is a wolf so why are they seriously considering that in reading you?

not sure wym here

[Raskolnikov]

i am very tempted to out joat purely because they deserve to die for their play

wolves probably know too because it?s breadcrumbed, i am embarrassed that such a player was allowed to play this game

wisdom what?s your read on me?

can you offer some elaboration on your wolf/town reads and general gamestate stuff

I read you as dying and will flip without my help.

I'll try to do a proper post when I'm home!

ok this is a post from a wolf lol

a wolf who wants robyn to out the joat lmao

nutella. I am prolly not unvoting Wisdom here lol

[nutella]

i don't know how that's the case for you

cape said boq was playing to his wolf meta in regard to his read on cape, explained why and how

rask said boq made up a fake argument that has no basis in reality and that boq's read on him has been narrow and weak (the latter of which i agree with, the former of which i understand his reasoning about)

boq's wolfread on rask has indeed been pretty stale and unchanging, it's also the closest thing he has to an actual wolfread that he believes in so it being so unexplained and not strongly pursued is extra wolfy, doesn't seem like he's actually hunting

i feel like all of the above would be wolfy for anyone and not just boq, so why is it "just boq?"

i'm starting to think it's two in boq/wisdom/dya

oh no


the paranoia is creeping in

[nutella]

maybe syn was right about vulgards wisdom stuff LMAO


vote: wisdom

[nutella]

wait shit whats vc

[dyachei]

not sure wym here

half the people talking about you being a wolf think boq is a wolf. Do they think his push on you is w/w specific?

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #1586

wisdom 4 syn raskolnikov dyachei nutella
boquise 3 achro boquise vulgard
dyachei 1 wisdom
raskolnikov 1 visor

Maj is in effect. With 13 players the magic number is 7.
Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/26/23

[Achro]

I suppose this is a good time to ask someone who might know if Boq self-voting is AI in either direction

[robyn]

I suppose this is a good time to ask someone who might know if Boq self-voting is AI in either direction

very towny, because goes against his wolfing philosophy

not because it's self voting ate etc etc whatever

it's just not what w!boq does and i don't think he can fool me, he has had good posts too, i just need to iso him a bit more thoroughly