13er summer game thread

[Winston Hughes]

anybody wanna grow some balls?

[katze]

wrt my last reads: i guess calling insom/cape a DIFFERENCE CHECK is a bit unfair. but i do think insom wolf equity skyrockets if cape is a villager and plummets if cape is a wolf. its rly as simple as i dont think hes bussing cape and if capes a villager then im misclearing someone and i think that insom is one of the names id point at first in "someone i am currently misclearing"

anyway ive been being pretty coy on my winston read because i've been kinda uncertain and wanted him to keep cooking, but yeah he's probably a villager lmao. when i earlier poked him and he said he had more content in the sorc17 game at that point, i found this sequence of posts

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whatever you want

you being under the radar and careful not to say anything untoward reminds me more of how you wolf than how you town

indeed

i know exactly how it looks

i'm not feeling the joy yet

and that is ++rand scum for me

but honestly i'm just not sure what to talk about

partly it's just rustiness, i think

but there's probably also just too much red meat already on the plate

in all of my games in recent years, i've felt like i needed to drive the conversation to some extent

this game's been generating it faster than i've been able to keep up

and have been kinda sitting on it since then. his postings gotten a lot better since then and i really think his play this game is like, actually really similar to that game and i think he's definitely getting a better idea of what to talk about as the day progresses. i imagine if its like day 3 or something and he starts kinda doing nothing of interest and the game starts going to shit then you probably just light his shoes on fire and see what happens but as of now i'm p comfy with him

it's also comforting that the ppl with experience seem to feel similarly since this isn't like, ironclad meta or anything

bet you didn't see that coming @Winston Hughes!

@ladd you earlier said i was probably your top townread/definitely had me amongst them, what changed between then and now where im not really even in your townreads in post 412?

either way our views of the game are p much identical albeit with slightly different ordering so we vibe
@dyachei to be quite honest you're prob my weakest TL [my tiersare ~never ordered] but shrug, ive found your posts after you got going to be p reminiscent of what i recall from your villa game and i'm definitely sheeping ladd a bit. i think he might be a bit too confident but i mean. i say that every time he locks benneh or apoc town on page 2 and hes usually right so. yeah.
@Cape90 it is really really funny to me that you are choosing to do sort by postcount isos instead of natural catchups given you had comparisons to c4 from the dobby game earlier

i'd kinda prefer you. did not do that. but ultimately you should catch up however ur comfortable doing it and if you're town then its on us to find it in you

whenever you have a more concrete worldview tho can you drop a readlist? explanations preferable, i think forming reads via isoing can lead to fragmented views of the game so it might reduce confusion if you do that
@Achro ur a nerd and i expect u to have a paragraph for me to read. and if not then my soulreads are wrong. this is very important to

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kinda surprised nobody questioned taffy being one of my top 3 townreads when i prior had sat on "they're getting townread too easily"

i dont know if that means anything though. just funny.

spoiler: i am projecting more confidence than i should on that read but i kinda just feel the villager in their soul and want to be right

[Achro]

That was a town claim btw

[Achro]

Only a paragraph lmao katze

Lmao

[Cape90]

I'm a bit in between on dyachei... which figures i guess

[Visor]

I kinda actually think cuth is a wolf, reading over the posts in the back half of the day is a stark contrast to how I felt earlier (where I thought his posts were fine)

Just a lot of posts in a string that seem to be tripping off my alarms

Like a wolf working the elbow grease

[Winston Hughes]

vote: Silverkeith

pretty much any other choice and i'd have followed you here

just for the joy

[ladd]

Posting to post is fair enough, I was under the impression of this being a chill game. My mistake :).

It is a chill game! But we still gotta accuse someone of being a wolf

[Winston Hughes]

I kinda actually think cuth is a wolf, reading over the posts in the back half of the day is a stark contrast to how I felt earlier (where I thought his posts were fine)

Just a lot of posts in a string that seem to be tripping off my alarms

Like a wolf working the elbow grease

oh now you step in

[Cape90]

@Cape90 it is really really funny to me that you are choosing to do sort by postcount isos instead of natural catchups given you had comparisons to c4 from the dobby game earlier

hoenstly EOD snuck up on me, I was like "oh yeah i better preserve post count

[Achro]

Cape is town I have decided. So he is sc-

I will stop.
@ladd yo. Obv villager here. Mind helping me with sk for a bit with a vote? I think cape is under enough siege and we've got an hour. Let's cook.

[SilverKeith]

Hello @SilverKeith two questions. Why is it unlike me to try new things? If I recall the last game we played together, draft mafia, opened with me doing something new and interesting as well. I would say it's fairly typical in games with new conditions for me to experiment.

I don't think trying new things is unlike you. I think there's a big difference between you trying to make someone claim their item in draft mafia, which is something really proactive/bossy of you, you wanted to command thread. This was more like a silly experiment with no real mech reason behind it, it was also a lot more, uh, dependant on circumstances I'd say, a "Hmmm I wonder what will happens or what conclussions can be drawn from it" rather than "This is an strategy that I can agree with or at least understand". I don't think it's really AI (maybe it is but for that I'd need to know more about how you open a game as both alignments)

102 is not wolf indicative for me I am afraid. I just replaced a generic reason to wolf read ladd a little with what I felt was a stronger one to tr him. Don't see why you feel that is something that is firmly in the domain of wolf achro vs town achro. What is your experience with my wolf game?

None, I think. Maybe I've read a game where you were wolfing but can't remember rn. I just felt it was wolfy. Or that must've been the case since I don't currently know which post we're talking about.


Don't think I can reference a wolf game where I reference other games tho I think I reference other games relatively often but it's not something I actively do.

I think something you said later that bothered you was related to me having both you and Taffy as wolves which didn't make any sense and my answer is that you're misunderstanding how I think about games. I can think about things that different players do are individually wolfy witouth having to check into the macro universe where I concilliate both of those things making sense. I see things I say things about them.

Also I don't currently think you're a wolf, kinda? Your push here towards me reminds me of your push in draft mafia. I think that if you were a wolf I'd be more bothered by your reasonings.

[Achro]

pretty much any other choice and i'd have followed you here

just for the joy

Why is the low posters the golden goose?

[Winston Hughes]

why is katze giving that much attention to reading me?

[Winston Hughes]

Why is the low posters the golden goose?

too easy

[dyachei]

pretty much any other choice and i'd have followed you here

just for the joy

i find it sus he only showed up for EOD

[Cape90]

to be clear i dont think cape is an home run wolf cause like i don't have a gotcha moment like it felt i had the last couple of games here with capage/boq, its more of a body of work read

i have re read his last pop in and it still feels like he is kinda just saying things




the Sk wall flowed p well and i liked his progression of achro in it and how he linked me to my achro read. it feels like the classic Sk opening wall where i disagree with a bunch of reads but the wall itself is villagery



in a shocking turn of events katze may be my top villager, i am happy i didnt call their first post wolfy



i am curious to see where dya pushes

vote: ladd

you know i just have a feeling

[Achro]

Oh hello Keith. If you are town question. Why would my thing be as mech heavy as a draft mafia in a 13er lol


Come on that don't make any sense.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: ladd

you know i just have a feeling

so tempted to follow, just for the memes

but surely not...

[SilverKeith]

So why are we voting cape again?

[katze]

why is katze giving that much attention to reading me?

i thought u were wolfy and then you gave me a reason to think it was a false ping so i sat and watched and then wrote words about it

as to why i made a show about it

i dont have an answer ngl

[Cape90]

my best case on cape is that they were shitposting with me and then they just didn't respond at all when i responded a little acerbically and a part of me ~strongly feels that that could be a nervous wolf thing to do lol because you're scared to answer weirdly and get my attention but it's rvs so you can get away with not engaging

but i don't love how people are treating the slot otherwise so i've been cooling on that recently

I didn't respond to you to purposefully leave you in the dark about the pocket thing to just see

[Raskolnikov]

Cape(4): ladd, insomnia, katze, Visor
Sk(2): achro, Dya
Katze (2): Winston, ender
Achro(1): Taffy
Winston(1): cuth
ladd(1): Cape
Taffy(1): SK
Ender(1): benneh

Not voting (0):

[ladd]

Cape is town I have decided. So he is sc-

I will stop.
@ladd yo. Obv villager here. Mind helping me with sk for a bit with a vote? I think cape is under enough siege and we've got an hour. Let's cook.

Ill follow on phone and see what both do at eod

Unless i fall asleep

[katze]

vote: silverkeith

sure ill bite

no promises i stay

[SilverKeith]

Oh hello Keith. If you are town question. Why would my thing be as mech heavy as a draft mafia in a 13er lol


Come on that don't make any sense.

I didn't say that. My point is that last one felt like a strategy and this one doesn't feel like it. Just a "let's push buttons and see what happens witouth a clear direction".

[Achro]

back at my computer for the finale

I have changed my mind, SK is town

unvote: Silverkeith

time to murder a wolf in 51 minutes.

[Cape90]

i wouldn't say cuth has super towntold besides their worldview which is very clearly anti-consensus and therefore I think it's villagery

But they are reminding me of how they usually play as town

[Achro]

I didn't say that. My point is that last one felt like a strategy and this one doesn't feel like it. Just a "let's push buttons and see what happens witouth a clear direction".

Yes, very true. You can be town for understanding this and mistaking it for wolfy intent.

I like chaos as town.

[Visor]

vote: cuthillius