
Originally Posted by
Achro
Of course you need not rush your decision. Socialize a bit. When you feel good about a pick take them off.
I removed dya because I feel I have a way to read them accurately where as most of this list I don't have the faintest clue. Except perhaps sk but I can't keep living off years ago success forever.
achro->SK
achro->dya

Originally Posted by
Achro
Oh I see. This is nai I think for Kat's range as both alignments so nothing much to say about that one.
Hello visor you have shown no problem sussing me early as wolf to get me to think you are being genuine. What's up
does achro really intend to only read me off of results this game
i still kinda viscerally dislike a lot of achros early postings but i don't really think i can put why into words still beyond "how does he believe the words he is saying"

Originally Posted by
insomnia
didn't claim godread or anything with my vote
i am taking minor grievances on insomnia not picking up on a very obvious joke. what that means for his alignment who will know but im commenting anyway because i feel like there's someone out there who has some nerdy analysis on how not getting jokes when you ordinarily do get jokes is actually alignment indicative

Originally Posted by
nebjiamn
i don't get the cape... resignment? seems ~fine and basically a guess atp
ladd my strongest tr. i kinda wanted to yolo visor v earlier but now it seems a bit blaze to do but i'll prob just ride it anyway.
katze seems better but i'm going to keep voting them so i don't look silly when they flip w
cuth seems good too
benneh is a villager

Originally Posted by
Achro
@
katze
You had a front row seat as towm before to the living hell thT is wolf achro's mind. What about my posts so far indicate to you that this is wolf indicative for me? Please be as specific as possible.
man this shit so feels like a trap question though?
my read on him to this point had cited the word "vibes" like multiple times, my front row seat to achros wolf game wouldn't mean shit here and if anything me being paranoid because i watched him bus his bros and post a billion times after a weaker start whichis not that far off this game is like
yeah sure its not something you should clear a good player for but for him to go onto making a big show about this just seems disingenuous to me and i know he later says it was mostly for reactions and he didnt like mine yadda yadda yadda but that doesn't really change the fact that i don't think that the world of "achro is a villager and this post right here is the start of him doing some reaction testy shit", i think if he's town this was a genuine question and if hes wolf then it was a trap question and either way he just eased it into a reaction thing later
on the other hand i don't rly think achro knows my towngame THAT well so i don't know if w!him really knows what to expect here. if he knew me better id say this is even worse but his saving grace is that the only game we've played together i was a villager and. it was not a normal game
subconsciously this might have been how i felt a bit in realtime

Originally Posted by
Visor
Where's your head at benneh
(And you, Winston)
anyway unrelated to all of the above. actually directly related. visor like, does not at all comment onit. he makes a post with a wolf team guess that includes achro and im sure if you ask him he'd probably say that might have influenced it, but like. hes literally NOT TOUCHING IT at all.
which is weird. and i know he would say "i dont want to deal with that shit" but man, there's like three wallposts of me and him spilling our hearts and hes just like "hey benneh, hru"

Originally Posted by
Visor
Fair read, I like it
and his next post is just kinda
in my current worldview its pretty laddavi.gif, maybe taffys a wolf and im
GETTING SNOWED (VISOR LOOK I SAID THE THING) but i don't think they are and from my current view of the game the reads on taffy are like
"taffy is just town" -> a villager (benneh) expresses doubt -> ??? aligned visor shuts it down
worth thinking about i guess.

Originally Posted by
Cape90
Sensing this is wolf on gut feel
AND THE GUY WE SHRUGYEETED EVEN AGREES. IM GONNA AVENGE U CAPE. maybe
i love u cape im sorry we did that to you i rly wish you just listened to me at eod but maybe that would have been worse cuz i thought u had good posting catching up until the final stretch
im currently pondering on if achro/visor is an unpairing or not because i am right now wanting to vote both of them but like. i also might think him flat out ignoring me and achros argument and just dropping a 3/3 solve with achro in it might be weird if w/w
but i guess thats not something id bet the game onyet

Originally Posted by
SilverKeith
SK catchup wall
i have a really really stupid read that SK is a wolf for this post because he, instead of saying *who* he would say to the achro thing, he instead said "oh id just say someone i wanna play with"
this read is probably really dumb but idk it mkes a bit of sense to me???
idk if i ignore that read entirely its like. its a fine catchup i guess i feel like its not really as inquisitive as a villager could be and i feel like v!SK usually has pretty good questions when he gets himself rolling and here i feel some of the observations are LACKING
SK->(e)td

Originally Posted by
Achro
Anyway I don't know taffy's meta but to explain I think generally it is very town indicative to look for gotchas like Taffy did with me. I feel it is more likely villagers look at past games AND also villagers don't really consider the results before cherrypicking data. Taffy got my post count right and said 'how are you going to struggle to solve?' And didn't stop to ask if I was a wolf. Or I'd town killed any wolves. Or if I posted the last day for their posts per day to be accurate. Felt very cute and town to me.
this feels pretty fkn villagery to me
in the sense that i could totally se it being one of those pretty posts a wolfwrites because it looks hella towny
id be very impressed if it was w/w with taffy and if hes a villager id imagine he's got good odds of being right and i agree with the conclusion anyway so like.
+achro
+++taffy

Originally Posted by
Achro
Not sure how to feel about the wall tbh. It feels like commentaryvanyone could say. It's all fine but not hearing town in you quite yet. It's not disagreeable in its conclusions but I also dont understand why you think Taffy is the best vote in wolf achro worlds as I think I would be TMIing them town if wolf with my town read of them attempting to disarm them like I did. I guess you don't need to worry too much about pairing thoughts before any flips though and maybe thats the case here.
Can you link a wolf game where you reference other games for your first vote? I find this is usually town more than scum at a rate much higher than rand in my experience and would like to see otherwise.
same post
bold is kinda funny given what im thinking rn but also that second bit is...
"can you link me a wolf game where you do [what taffy did]
what does that... accomplish? SK is not taffy
i could probably find a wolfgame ive done that and if i posted it he'd say something about ranges, id reckon that probably applies to SK as well since hes just as good of a wolf as i am? seems weird and achro. knows SK.
um
achro->sk

Originally Posted by
Achro
vote:silverkeith
i think this is villagery vote timing
esp if SK is a wolf
kinda funny that two people (ender/achro) are townreading winston for. suspecting me.
im rolling my eyes and i guess since im posting this probably i shall say this.

Originally Posted by
katze
im soulreading that achro, if town, thinks that i am a wolf but is trying to pretend hes unsure so i bus at EoD and then he buries me tomorrow
im posting this to fuck with your head
glgl
why does this post exist what the fuck me

Originally Posted by
dyachei
ok
i think you're a villager here
and I really like your points on cuth
this post feels wrong to me which is weird because my first townping on dya was a similarish post where they were kinda appealing to ladd in a way that it felt like they hoped ladd was town and then here they are clearly stating they think hes town but idk
this might a medya thingbut im noting ti anyway

Originally Posted by
Totally not Taffy
Ladd would be my strongest townread atm. Ender, Cape and Katze very lightly.
Nothing really pinged me in the first 100 posts outside of Achro, especially since I've now reached his post where he suspects Ladd for downplaying his abilities when that's exactly what he's doing himself.
if taffy sus read later

Originally Posted by
ladd
[dya] seemed a bit grumpy/not having fun from the beginning which i associated with them having randed wolf when not wanting to
but their recentish string of posts feels a lot like villa dya and their push on benneh seems like a classic push dya makes as a villager. don't really feel like they'd bother pushing on benneh of all people d1 as a wolf considering how little into the game they seemed to be
they would have just made a bunch of consensus-y reads and called it a day IMO
[insomnia] seems fine and probably has an okay view of the gamestate, nice post on cape
wouldnt be shocked if he is a wolf but it FEELS like he is a villager
im still not fully convinced dya isnt doing the bolded kinda even tho the benneh thing is obv the exception
again this isnt a today concern probably but... lets see
first read is light v on achro, then light v on insom, the latter being basically a reply to an insom light v read and the former being consensusish at that point imo
dya then pokes a few people (lightly on me, then on visor and ender) and makes no reads on any
then they drop the benneh wolfread, which is absolutely not consensus

Originally Posted by
dya
he's just kind of falling flat rn. Town benneh usually does more solving and I havent seen that here. That said, wolf benneh tries to lead more and he's not doing that either. So I'm not super confident but he's not doing enough for me to v read him and if i don't v read him, he's more likely to be a wolf
and even this is fairly hedgy but its not bad

Originally Posted by
dyachei
cape
benneh
cuth
sk
not in any order
this is their "who i would vote rn" list, cape is abso consensus, benneh is abso not. cuth also not i guess but i think he was floated a bit sometime before then... yeah i placed my vote and dya quoted it not that long before. could be coincidental but my read there was tinfoily and i did it partially because i felt like it wasnt consensus so sure
and then sk who at that point was probably kinda split
then they pushed harder on cape, poked visor in a negativeish way, agrees with a "achro is kinda villagery but not omega villagery but day 1 pass" read
then they hedged on cuth some (i think? looks like a bit of + and - from them)
continue pushing cape
and then pushing SK some at eod
meh
im getting AHEAD OF MYSELF but i find it easy to read "w!dya would just post some consensus reads" and then read their reads this game and say theres some parallels!
mrrrrrrrrrrr ok where was i

Originally Posted by
insomnia
tbh i didn't even read the context that carefully
like i said, it was just something on the backburner that im not sure on rn. i still wanna lunch cape
this whole read on me is
its not great but it does kinda FEEL like v!insomnia words idk but it lik e so blatnatly falls flat on its face if you read the context? at least mostly? idk i guess i can see it as a thought that appeared in their head at some point that they didnt give much thought to and thn katze sus came up and theyre like "oh wait! i had something for this!" and dragged it out and honestly that sounds kinda plausible BECAUSE its obviously unconvincing
hrmm
i feel like insom is v much some1 who just wants to lunch villas as a wolf surely he could do better against a villa like me who just posts dumb shit all the time...?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmfuck
i need to sleep on that one
insom

Originally Posted by
Winston Hughes
fuuuck me that's a big face...

winston made like a borderline identical post to this in our game last year lol
ur a fun guy i will post more big faces at u.

Originally Posted by
dyachei
i actually buy cuth's frustration and give him very small townpoints for it
oh this is dyas kinda backpedal on cuth and its in reply to "i scumread cuth, prove me wrong" hmm that changes that prior thing a bit ok hmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Originally Posted by
dyachei
that I called him a wolf and he was like frustrated that people weren't engaging with him and just sussing him
look, when I'm a wolf and people call me a wolf, I'm like hyperaware and try to be towny. I think cuth does to a certain extent too. But here he was like look, that's not really a fair call and whinged about it a bit. that's more what a villager does
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
okay i might be feeling the town dya again
im reading their soul
theyre not sure on cuth rn
they trust ladd, ladd trusts cuth, they dont really trust cuth
but theyre feeling it
they kinda see it
maybe???
im letting this marinate
dya hi

Originally Posted by
Winston Hughes
Ooh, yeah, I've not talked about Cape at all. Good catch.
hey u nerd i was JUST about to type that u hadnt made any cap comments!!!!! grrr ok
idk what this means for your alignment mister hughes.
i guess posting 3/3s with literally no comment on the most consensus wolf all game is kinda weird tho idk what kind of

Originally Posted by
dyachei
oh shit, katze is v reading me. have they actually gotten accurate on me or are they a wolf?
ghoststab

Originally Posted by
ladd
villagery post
no its not its nai as fuck lol dya will eternally tease me on my record on them until i figure it out

Originally Posted by
SilverKeith
Helloooo
what did I miss
i saw some1 say today that sk popping in for eod was weird but their post b4 this was "im going to sleep" and idk i kinda wanna believe that

Originally Posted by
Visor
Wolfy Bongiorno
(Legit)
visor what are you doing this game

Originally Posted by
dyachei
vote: Silverkeith
+
yippee postcap lift

Originally Posted by
dyachei
i find it sus he only showed up for EOD
lol i kinda wanna clear dya if sk is a wolf it might be dumb but i honestly feel like dya is about to pounce and maul sk and rip the poor kirby to shreds
i FEEL it
kinda like how they sound when i scumread them in a turbo ;)

Originally Posted by
SilverKeith
I don't think trying new things is unlike you. I think there's a big difference between you trying to make someone claim their item in draft mafia, which is something really proactive/bossy of you, you wanted to command thread. This was more like a silly experiment with no real mech reason behind it, it was also a lot more, uh, dependant on circumstances I'd say, a "Hmmm I wonder what will happens or what conclussions can be drawn from it" rather than "This is an strategy that I can agree with or at least understand". I don't think it's really AI (maybe it is but for that I'd need to know more about how you open a game as both alignments)
None, I think. Maybe I've read a game where you were wolfing but can't remember rn. I just felt it was wolfy. Or that must've been the case since I don't currently know which post we're talking about.
Don't think I can reference a wolf game where I reference other games tho I think I reference other games relatively often but it's not something I actively do.
I think something you said later that bothered you was related to me having both you and Taffy as wolves which didn't make any sense and my answer is that you're misunderstanding how I think about games. I can think about things that different players do are individually wolfy witouth having to check into the macro universe where I concilliate both of those things making sense. I see things I say things about them.
Also I don't currently think you're a wolf, kinda? Your push here towards me reminds me of your push in draft mafia. I think that if you were a wolf I'd be more bothered by your reasonings.
ok @
Achro
im setting you on fire.
why is SK a villager for this post?

Originally Posted by
Achro
Yes, very true. You can be town for understanding this and mistaking it for wolfy intent.
I like chaos as town.
why is this towny??????????
like. what?
what the fuck are you doing with SK this game brother
like im not even convinced its wolfy but its so easy to imagine a wolf writing that post given the implied experience i am legitimately flabbergasted that THIS is apparently what got you to drop the "everybody wolfreads SK, i dont wolfread cape, lets kill SK" shit
what??

Originally Posted by
Achro
vote: ladd
I don't like the direction of the thread, and ladd feels like the one leading it. And following along on phone and see what they do? As if you are not in danger? Excuse me? Did you think calling me a villager would grant you some sort of clemency? Now is the fun.
...........................................
you know this kinda reminds me of me trying to ML newcomb in sorc17 last year
inchresting

Originally Posted by
Achro
But sincerely it feels like ladd is sipping drinking coffee and his observations feel okay but also his logic that one of me/katze must be a wolf because we wolf read each other is very predatory if katze is town. Like, 'ah I think they both look good, but idk...'
Also I feel like ladd's posting has kind of encouraged a lethargic feel to the thread. Like it's just easing the momentum towards 'yah bye cape' which we can flip today and if it is town makes ladd's efforts today look shady, chill game or no
also ladd what posts of mine are obvious villager posts. I will know if you are lying.
i am like 98% confident you never at any point called m a villager up to this point and to this point you had called ladd a villager multiple times where is this coming from
god dammit i know you're going to say its eod chaos but
sighs

Originally Posted by
katze
cuth is the one who says funny words, visor is the one who says words funny
banger post

Originally Posted by
SilverKeith
I don't remember any visor I unironically think this is a wolftell for lack of spice
yeah i think SK is actually a wolf
ive been kinda looking at SKs eod and i feel like hes SAYING things but hes not ACTUALLY EXPLORING THE GAME

Originally Posted by
Achro
ladd: I am not getting up out of bed for this
cape and katze: bring it on
difference check choo choo
and seriously what the FUCK is this
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ACHRO
EVEN IN REALTIME I KNEW SK WAS MAFIA AND UR JUST POSTING SHIT LIKE THIS

Originally Posted by
Achro
no but you might be shot tonight.

Originally Posted by
Achro
I was fine with taffy's vote on me - more than fine, really, I liked it - but I just realized that has been on me all day now. Kinda lazy. Dont know their meta tho.
awoo

Originally Posted by
katze
vote: ladd
now ladd is a wagon so my question makes more sense
hehe

Originally Posted by
Achro
vote: ladd
now he is the lead wagon.

Originally Posted by
katze
vote: ender
imo its this or cape
sk or visor are acceptable as well
MY MAN u are LTIERALLY roasting me for a joke vote that lasted A SINGLE MINUTE and YOU ALSO JOINED IT
you are spouting actual garbage this eod

Originally Posted by
SilverKeith
I liked that last big taffy post.
why
why do you have these thoughts, keith.

Originally Posted by
Achro
vote: insomnia
sheeping SK
okay now I am gone
(my spider sense agrees)
yikes

Originally Posted by
SilverKeith
katze being at the same place they were a while ago is wolf indicative of them yesyes mhmmm
yikes

Originally Posted by
Winston Hughes
*sucks air through teeth*
nah ur right winston that read was garbage
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