13er summer game thread

[Winston Hughes]

Really don't know why you have me as greater than rand wolf

Walk me through it

that d1

low postcount

low control

the ladd push

lack of joy

you feel reactive

[Winston Hughes]

i feel like you've given me exactly the amount of credit you needed to

[insomnia]

Vote: silverkeith

maybe this will conjure him up

[Visor]

that d1

low postcount

low control

the ladd push

lack of joy

you feel reactive

Did I push Ladd seriously? Idr

Lack of joy fair

Low control and postcount probably the opposite tell these days lmao

Reactive sure, but that's more a function of available time

Idk, my last wolf and village games on here are very different, so not sure why wolf meta is being thrown at me, generic wolfiness sure, I'd even agree with that

[Achro]

Lol

I thought it was a fair argument, that's all

Still obviously wanted cuth to die over cape... Actions

I voted Insomnia over Cape EOD when it was 4-3

Why do your actions matter but mine did not for you?

(it's because you're a wolf)

[Visor]

It's about feeeeeeels

[Winston Hughes]

vote: taffy

[Visor]

vote: taffy

Because of their passivity?

[Winston Hughes]

i've not played with taffy at all

but i did scum in a game taffy hosted

and we talked a lot while i did so

taffy's iso here is all very controlled and meticulous

posting the right things at the right times

so few scumhooks

[Visor]

I mean taffy has had few jabs in general, I would agree generally to your thoughts there

[Achro]

It's about feeeeeeels

So me trying to murder the person who was leading the day and the vote on cape (ladd) didn't feel very 'moving' to ya huh.

Okay I only have a few posts left, if people don't see this as wolfy quite frankly consult your chosen Deity or RNG machine for reads in the future.

xoxo

Chris

[Winston Hughes]

So me trying to murder the person who was leading the day and the vote on cape (ladd) didn't feel very 'moving' to ya huh.

Okay I only have a few posts left, if people don't see this as wolfy quite frankly consult your chosen Deity or RNG machine for reads in the future.

xoxo

Chris

visor/achro/katze

[Cuthillius]

@Achro at the start of the game you took dya off the list because you felt good about being able to read them

could you please talk about your progression on dya in some detail over the course of this game? because what you said in the readslist earlier today when i went to look seemed less nuanced than i'd expect given the above

[Cuthillius]

visor/achro/katze

if one of these names were to flip v right now which would change your pov on the game overall the most and why?

[Cuthillius]

confession time when i read dya saying that games are solvable within 50 posts or less i did assume they meant 50 total posts not posts per person

and i was like wow that's a whole nother level of confidence

and i literally didn't connect the dots until this morning

[Winston Hughes]

if one of these names were to flip v right now which would change your pov on the game overall the most and why?

visor

knowing his reads were true would change my perspective more than for the other two, mainly because i know him better, but also because i think he knows the other people better

[Visor]

Breaux I wouldn't trust my reads with a ten foot pole

(Think I have 7-8 posts left so I might save them for tonight unless I see a quality meme to post lol to)

[Cuthillius]

i'm backreading and i think achro is just v unless, like, wolves are collectively in a Grumpy Mood

just a lot of interactions that feel unaligned?

[Achro]

@Achro at the start of the game you took dya off the list because you felt good about being able to read them

could you please talk about your progression on dya in some detail over the course of this game? because what you said in the readslist earlier today when i went to look seemed less nuanced than i'd expect given the above

Hmm, it's actually the opposite for me usually. My most accurate reads are usually not nuanced because I have certain things I can go to and go 'ah yeah, alright, this checks out.'

For Dya it's a tone read of if she is investing in the things she should be. Does she care about the right things. Yesterday I feel like she did that. She wanted something different out of the thread, same as me. I believe this makes her town because I think the wolves were biding their time day 1 to then kill ladd night 1 and to push agendas today that Ladd would have stopped.

Like

idk

Maybe the guy who he had as 'obvious villager' suddenly being suspected the night after his death.

What a coincidence.

[Cuthillius]

idk i'm starting to think more and more ladd had kinda bad reads actually

more on this shortly

[Cuthillius]

okay i have a lot of thoughts but i should really be doing other stuff right now so i will try to distill

i feel moderately strongly that benneh/katze are wolves together lol

main points:

-benneh just wasn't very villagery d1? he was kinda floating around and in particular i think the way in which he was pushing ender all day looks kinda gross in retrospect (well before the possibility of pr stuff i think?)
-katze randomly reads benneh strong v off vibes and basically keeps him there all the way through
--at one point earlyish on benneh makes an offhand jokey comment about this but doesn't really push back or follow through much at all; it's a very sort of i should acknowledge this but actually don't mind it kind of post
-both of them, but especially benneh, are very message-boost-y wrt ladd-- iirc all three of them had more or less the same exact readslist, though iirc benneh was like yeah same but a couple of these names would be lower on mine
-in that context ladd nk would make a lot of sense to cement some level of consensus in the thread and codify his takes before he had chances to reevaluate later, plus there weren't really many super hard clear villagers at that point
-both of them (more so katze) had relatively nuanced reads but at the end of the day basically were always gonna end up on cape/achro/ender, and neither really pushed very hard elsewhere, though there were some meaningless votes thrown around in various directions
--granted this is not unique to either of them but fits the overall narrative wrt ladd stuff and general direction
-also both of them are very shruggy towards sk yeet today in a pretty non-committal way

anyway those are my thoughts i think benneh looks a bit worse than katze but i think he makes the most sense with katze that is all goodbye for now

[Visor]

Villagery post Mlord

I like it

[katze]

okay i have a lot of thoughts but i should really be doing other stuff right now so i will try to distill

i feel moderately strongly that benneh/katze are wolves together lol

main points:

-benneh just wasn't very villagery d1? he was kinda floating around and in particular i think the way in which he was pushing ender all day looks kinda gross in retrospect (well before the possibility of pr stuff i think?)
-katze randomly reads benneh strong v off vibes and basically keeps him there all the way through
--at one point earlyish on benneh makes an offhand jokey comment about this but doesn't really push back or follow through much at all; it's a very sort of i should acknowledge this but actually don't mind it kind of post
-both of them, but especially benneh, are very message-boost-y wrt ladd-- iirc all three of them had more or less the same exact readslist, though iirc benneh was like yeah same but a couple of these names would be lower on mine
-in that context ladd nk would make a lot of sense to cement some level of consensus in the thread and codify his takes before he had chances to reevaluate later, plus there weren't really many super hard clear villagers at that point
-both of them (more so katze) had relatively nuanced reads but at the end of the day basically were always gonna end up on cape/achro/ender, and neither really pushed very hard elsewhere, though there were some meaningless votes thrown around in various directions
--granted this is not unique to either of them but fits the overall narrative wrt ladd stuff and general direction
-also both of them are very shruggy towards sk yeet today in a pretty non-committal way

anyway those are my thoughts i think benneh looks a bit worse than katze but i think he makes the most sense with katze that is all goodbye for now

i do agree that benneh/i have a lot of partner equity

i also think he's just been kinda villagery and i think people dumpstering on him the minute he left the thread for a little is pretty lol

but if v he'll be obvious d2 at the latest and i'm seeing a lot of markers that i really like so far

i really enjoy villaging with him and we have pretty good synergy

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i dont really know how to reply to this post

i think its villagery and wrong but like; i believe you believe it and benneh could be a wolf (and if he is a wolf the connection between me and him makes sense for the reasons you outlined)

i dont rly think he is but i am in support of holding him to the fire and forcing him to be more villagery, i think ive seen enough from him personally but my current view of the game feels a bit wrong somewhere so... im happy letting you cook as long as its him ur cooking and not me and you dont force him over if hes villagery (i think he was villagery d1 still but im not gonna pretend he was an INNOCENT CHILD)

(not here, just saw that and had to post the sf2 post before going afk)

[Achro]

I thought visor and benneh were unpaired when I was looking through visor's iso fwiw.

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally


SK(3): Visor, katze, insom
katze(1): Benneh
Visor(1): Achro
Benneh(1): Ender
Achro(1): taffy
Taffy(1): Winston

[Winston Hughes]

first part of d1, dya is so townie

dgaf vibes, clear process, town intent

since then, dya's been fine

i'd like to see more fire

[dyachei]

first part of d1, dya is so townie

dgaf vibes, clear process, town intent

since then, dya's been fine

i'd like to see more fire

me too

let me know when you find my fire

[insomnia]

v
ender
taffy
insomnia

winston
cuth

achro


my g2h takes up to p10 in my re-read. all villagers, orders go from strongest to weakest ldo

i’ll add dya in the winston tier

katze / sk / visor / benneh

idk if this can have 3 wolves but let’s see if there’s magic in PoE

[Cuthillius]

vote: insomnia

sup

you wolfing?

[Cuthillius]

kat can you go a bit more in depth about why you think benneh was villagery d1 apart from ViBeS?

(also i laughed at the copypasta)

visor thoughts on the substance of the post itself independent of how it makes you feel about my alignment?